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Old Expat Beast · 2 December 2016, 10:51 AM

Sorry to see that. I'm surprised we don't see broken nato buckles more often, they do seem very flimsy.

People like to talk about how a nato will save your watch if a springbar fails, yet every broken or dislodged springbar shown on the forums seems to have been caused by a nato. The fact that the watch is still dangling on the remaining springbar is somehow seen as the nato's selling point.

I've never seen a photo here of a springbar failure while the watch was on its steel bracelet.

BLACKHORSE 6 · 2 December 2016, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Sorry to see that. I'm surprised we don't see broken nato buckles more often, they do seem very flimsy.

People like to talk about how a nato will save your watch if a springbar fails, yet every broken or dislodged springbar shown on the forums seems to have been caused by a nato. The fact that the watch is still dangling on the remaining springbar is somehow seen as the nato's selling point.

I've never seen a photo here of a springbar failure while the watch was on its steel bracelet.

Right. I know the oyster bracelet is bulletproof and this wouldn't have happened if it had been on the bracelet. I just never thought that something like this would happen.

The reason I called the strap cheap in my first post is because when I really looked at it in afterward, I could see when the problem. The buckle should have been designed better, though it took a good bit of force to cause it to fail.

When I get the watch back from RSC, it'll go back on the bracelet. If I do ever put it on a strap again, it won't be a Maratac and it'll definitely have a better buckle.

Rebel · 2 December 2016, 10:51 AM

Ouch.

blackbard · 2 December 2016, 11:15 AM

They say they are the safest option but your case proves otherwise. Sorry to see the damage. Good luck with the service!

Boothroyd · 2 December 2016, 11:18 AM

Very sorry to hear and hope it gets fully sorted without breaking the bank.

bdex75 · 2 December 2016, 12:21 PM

Sucks. At least you were planning on a service soon anyhow. I bet this will be closer to $1100 when it is all said and done. I wear a lot of my watches on NATO's, but cheap NATO straps are usually cheap in the clasp department and that is hard to weed out looking at them on the inter web. A NATO with a good clasp and good spring bars is as secure as any other bracelet or combination, maybe more secure as you could have a spring bar failure and still not lose the watch. When you get it back it would look great on a Eulit Palma gray nato!!! Or will a black NATO off of a Tudor fit on a Daytona??

Sublover2166 · 2 December 2016, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bdex75

Sucks. At least you were planning on a service soon anyhow. I bet this will be closer to $1100 when it is all said and done. I wear a lot of my watches on NATO's, but cheap NATO straps are usually cheap in the clasp department and that is hard to weed out looking at them on the inter web. A NATO with a good clasp and good spring bars is as secure as any other bracelet or combination, maybe more secure as you could have a spring bar failure and still not lose the watch. When you get it back it would look great on a Eulit Palma gray nato!!! Or will a black NATO off of a Tudor fit on a Daytona??

Agree: Service will be at least 1K or a bit more depending on water and shrapnel damage.

Disagree: A Daytona does NOT belong on a NATO. The Oyster bracelet is a thing of beauty and simple perfection. Why try to reinvent the wheel?

bdex75 · 2 December 2016, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sublover2166

Agree: Service will be at least 1K or a bit more depending on water and shrapnel damage.

Disagree: A Daytona does NOT belong on a NATO. The Oyster bracelet is a thing of beauty and simple perfection. Why try to reinvent the wheel?

Agree: it looks great on a bracelet.

I never said it belonged on a NATO. Just that if you are buy a good one so it is more secure.

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Old Expat Beast · 2 December 2016, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bdex75

Agree: it looks great on a bracelet.

I never said it belonged on a NATO. Just that if you are buy a good one so it is more secure.

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It's not officially a nato, but the fabric strap that comes with your Tudor Advisor is my favourite of all.

bdex75 · 2 December 2016, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

It's not officially a nato, but the fabric strap that comes with your Tudor Advisor is my favourite of all.

That is a great fabric strap. Great weave. The only one I like the look of as well is the BB bronze.

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Afghanvet · 2 December 2016, 12:39 PM

Ohhh, dude... so sorry. Insurance??

Hairdude1 · 2 December 2016, 12:42 PM

Ouch!

Turbo23dog · 2 December 2016, 12:50 PM

Keep positive. Think of it as a nice spa day for your watch. And you'll have the thrill of opening the box again. Win Win.

dbluevette · 2 December 2016, 02:28 PM

Stay positive...At least it was only a watch.

rouxeny · 2 December 2016, 02:48 PM

Definitely gonna be more than $400

thejerseyrock · 2 December 2016, 02:59 PM

Ouch, indeed! Looks like the iphone5 i just dropped on the concrete (on the bright side, I have a new iphone7 now).... hope it works out for you....

alfanator · 2 December 2016, 03:05 PM

Ouch. Do you have a shot of the clasp? Thought those were solid rings. Did the stitching give?

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BLACKHORSE 6 · 2 December 2016, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by alfanator

Ouch. Do you have a shot of the clasp? Thought those were solid rings. Did the stitching give?

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The stitching didn't give. Whatever I caught the watch on put pressure on just the right way to pull the tang to the wrong side of the buckle. Hard to explain, but have a look at the picture. The tang should be pointed up instead of down.

Been wearing the watch on the strap for quite a while and never had any problems. Would never have thought that this would have happened. When I told my wife about it, she just rolled her eyes and called me a bull in a china shop for the millionth time in our marriage. I'm kind of like Tim Allen's character from "Home Improvement" in that I'm good at finding new and creative ways in breaking things.

sea-dweller · 2 December 2016, 03:30 PM

Ouch! Hope for a good outcome!

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steveng01 · 2 December 2016, 07:03 PM

Sorry to hear that. Lesson learned: get a better quality AM strap

Ticknaway · 2 December 2016, 09:01 PM

Regardless of the reason this occurred and the potential cost, the upside is that the watch should be beautiful when it is returned!

Camel · 2 December 2016, 09:29 PM

I feel your pain !

smellychips · 3 December 2016, 01:30 AM

the "bracelet" police are well and truly active in this thread! ... the world of watch wearing would be a boring place if we all looked the same.
good for you for sharing this even though you knew deep down the criticism would be thrown at you. respect for wearing and enjoying your watch in daily activity instead of keeping it in a vacuum sealed glass case like so many do these days.

JP Chestnut · 3 December 2016, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by smellychips

the "bracelet" police are well and truly active in this thread! ... the world of watch wearing would be a boring place if we all looked the same.
good for you for sharing this even though you knew deep down the criticism would be thrown at you. respect for wearing and enjoying your watch in daily activity instead of keeping it in a vacuum sealed glass case like so many do these days.

The funny thing - what kind of strap does a milsub wear? Not the perfect, unbreakable, amazing, oyster - a crappy NATO.

The OP should just buy NATOs with good hardware. They exist.

smellychips · 3 December 2016, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JP Chestnut

The funny thing - what kind of strap does a milsub wear? Not the perfect, unbreakable, amazing, oyster - a crappy NATO.

The OP should just buy NATOs with good hardware. They exist.

well said that man!

BLACKHORSE 6 · 3 December 2016, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by smellychips

the "bracelet" police are well and truly active in this thread! ... the world of watch wearing would be a boring place if we all looked the same.
good for you for sharing this even though you knew deep down the criticism would be thrown at you. respect for wearing and enjoying your watch in daily activity instead of keeping it in a vacuum sealed glass case like so many do these days.

Yeah, thanks.

lightspire · 4 December 2016, 12:59 AM

I agree - wear it how you like it - and thank you for you for sharing! Straps are an enjoyable part of personalizing a watch and fabric straps are a huge trend in watches. Hey bracelet police: Tudor (aka Rolex) have been including custom made fabric straps with their bracelets for years: https://www.tudorwatch.com/magazine/...e-fabric-strap

It's sad to see the result of a poorly designed product - I would contact Maratac and link to this thread. They should be aware of their product failure and the 'impact' (no pun intended) it had on your watch and is having on their reputation in the watch community.

Wahlberg · 4 December 2016, 01:20 AM

To each his own obviously. I'm not a fan of daytona's or speedmasters on a nato strap, just doesn't look right.

mtgjr · 4 December 2016, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Wahlberg

To each his own obviously. I'm not a fan of daytona's or speedmasters on a nato strap, just doesn't look right.

It wasn't a Nato strap.

Etschell · 3 December 2016, 01:45 AM

http://natostraps.com/

little different but more secure?

2 December 2016, 10:51 AM	#3
Rebel "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Dr Mark R Nail Location: New Albany Watch: Tudor Sub 75090 Posts: 8,254	Ouch. __________________ ------------------------------- Member of the Nylon Nation

2 December 2016, 11:15 AM	#4
blackbard Banned Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: US Posts: 80	Natos = No No's...to me They say they are the safest option but your case proves otherwise. Sorry to see the damage. Good luck with the service!

2 December 2016, 11:18 AM	#5
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2 December 2016, 10:51 AM	#1
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,823	Sorry to see that. I'm surprised we don't see broken nato buckles more often, they do seem very flimsy. People like to talk about how a nato will save your watch if a springbar fails, yet every broken or dislodged springbar shown on the forums seems to have been caused by a nato. The fact that the watch is still dangling on the remaining springbar is somehow seen as the nato's selling point. I've never seen a photo here of a springbar failure while the watch was on its steel bracelet.

2 December 2016, 12:21 PM	#6
bdex75 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Brandon Location: Indianapolis Watch: my money vanish Posts: 8,506	Sucks. At least you were planning on a service soon anyhow. I bet this will be closer to $1100 when it is all said and done. I wear a lot of my watches on NATO's, but cheap NATO straps are usually cheap in the clasp department and that is hard to weed out looking at them on the inter web. A NATO with a good clasp and good spring bars is as secure as any other bracelet or combination, maybe more secure as you could have a spring bar failure and still not lose the watch. When you get it back it would look great on a Eulit Palma gray nato!!! Or will a black NATO off of a Tudor fit on a Daytona??

2 December 2016, 12:50 PM	#13
Turbo23dog "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Rich Location: Virginia Posts: 164	Keep positive. Think of it as a nice spa day for your watch. And you'll have the thrill of opening the box again. Win Win.

2 December 2016, 02:28 PM	#14
dbluevette "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: TEXAS Posts: 302	Stay positive...At least it was only a watch.

2 December 2016, 02:48 PM	#15
rouxeny "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Real Name: Andrew Location: Maui Posts: 686	Definitely gonna be more than $400

2 December 2016, 02:59 PM	#16
thejerseyrock "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Real Name: Tom Location: New Jersey Watch: Rolex, Omega, AP Posts: 991	Ouch, indeed! Looks like the iphone5 i just dropped on the concrete (on the bright side, I have a new iphone7 now).... hope it works out for you....

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alfanator "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Seattle/Shanghai Posts: 134	Ouch. Do you have a shot of the clasp? Thought those were solid rings. Did the stitching give? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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3 December 2016, 01:30 AM	#23
smellychips "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: England Watch: it guvnor! Posts: 226	the "bracelet" police are well and truly active in this thread! ... the world of watch wearing would be a boring place if we all looked the same. good for you for sharing this even though you knew deep down the criticism would be thrown at you. respect for wearing and enjoying your watch in daily activity instead of keeping it in a vacuum sealed glass case like so many do these days.

4 December 2016, 12:59 AM	#27
lightspire "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 119	I agree - wear it how you like it - and thank you for you for sharing! Straps are an enjoyable part of personalizing a watch and fabric straps are a huge trend in watches. Hey bracelet police: Tudor (aka Rolex) have been including custom made fabric straps with their bracelets for years: https://www.tudorwatch.com/magazine/...e-fabric-strap It's sad to see the result of a poorly designed product - I would contact Maratac and link to this thread. They should be aware of their product failure and the 'impact' (no pun intended) it had on your watch and is having on their reputation in the watch community.

4 December 2016, 01:20 AM	#28
Wahlberg "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Paris Posts: 3,590	To each his own obviously. I'm not a fan of daytona's or speedmasters on a nato strap, just doesn't look right.

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