I have the platinum Daytona in my sights

[regnant]

It is the heaviest Rolex I have ever put on my wrist. It's heavy but like one of friends said you don't feel it's heaviness once you put it on your wrist. It's 286 grams with full links
It can take some scratches too, for scratch concerns I think ceramic is the material to go but don't let this dampen your path on the way to the ultimate Daytona ever made.
I'm not sales expert but I think Platinum should hold a better value than gold when it comes to selling it.I was saying that from that money I could build a collection of Rolex watches but believe in me nothing is like Rolex Daytona 116506 including Vacheron Constantin under my ownership, it's the least expensive one but that does not matter.

[peterskinner]

What's slightly comic is the assumption that this can be approached rationally. It can't. It's a fabulously expensive bit of jewellery. It's a treat, a high-end toy. Nothing more, nothing less.
You buy it because you really, really, want to...and can. Or you don't want it enough. Which is equally fine. But it is heart not head.

[Hollister]

Originally Posted by peterskinner

What's slightly comic is the assumption that this can be approached rationally. It can't. It's a fabulously expensive bit of jewellery. It's a treat, a high-end toy. Nothing more, nothing less.
You buy it because you really, really, want to...and can. Or you don't want it enough. Which is equally fine. But it is heart not head.

People who make irrational decisions about spending money generally don't have £36,000 to drop on a watch.

[marselluswallace]

When I bought my full size gold Yachtmaster nearly 20 years ago for £6000 it was a massive sum for me at the time but I have had all those years enjoyment from the watch and still love it as much as I day I bought it.As things have worked out I would certainly get £6000 at least for it if I ever come to sell it so in monetary terms it's not been a disaster.

This gave me the confidence I needed to buy my Platona.I bought it brand new from a 'grey' dealer 18 months ago-before the price increase and at a time before brexit when the £ had more value than it does today!Its a bit daunting when your debit card goes into that machine and you are asked for your pin to verify an amount nearly that which I paid for my first house.Im sure I will love the Platona for ever and my intention is never to sell.If my financial position takes a turn for the worst in the future then hopefully history will repeat itself with the Yachtmaster and the financial pain(if any) will not be too severe!

[Ruud Van Driver]

Gary, apologies if I have crossed wires here but didn't you flip your Daytona C because you felt it was too small on your 8" wrists? If so, no way would I drop that money on a watch that is going to look just as small on your wrists. In the grand scheme of things, it's just going to weigh a lot more.

Think carefully, very carefully. Just my 2p.

[garyfromleeds]

Originally Posted by Ruud Van Driver

Gary, apologies if I have crossed wires here but didn't you flip your Daytona C because you felt it was too small on your 8" wrists? If so, no way would I drop that money on a watch that is going to look just as small on your wrists. In the grand scheme of things, it's just going to weigh a lot more.

Think carefully, very carefully. Just my 2p.

I've never owned a Daytona ceramic before but I do think the daytonas wear a tad small yes there 40mm but compared to a ceramic 40mm submariner they do seem smaller in size only very marginally .

[kunlun]

Originally Posted by Token74

I am a huge Rolex fan because Rolex does something special; creating quality watches (in terms of design and engineering) that can take a beating, like AP and Patek (for instance) can't.

This works exceptionally well for SS models, but is flawed when it comes to PM models, as (a) PM is not designed to take a beating and (b) it's a lot of money to spend on a watch for beating. And if you're not going to 'beat' it, then I believe there are finer watches out there (I.e. Patek and AP) for that kind of money. I have a cap of about £15k for a Rolex.

This is well said.

Rolex makes durable watches, but they don't stand by their work, the watches are disposable. For example, if you have a problem with the bracelet, Rolex will tell you to buy a new bracelet. Think about that for a pm watch.

Rolex are well made disposable watches.

I really enjoy my SS rolex, but going pm is an issue if you want to keep the watch for your life, as I do. SS is really the way to go for Rolex.

At pt prices, you can get a real high-end watch that is made to be repaired for generations of enjoyment, not disposed.

That's why I'm not buying a pt DD40, but looking to spend more on a watch that will be mine for life and repaired as needed.

If I were just looking at 5-10 years of ownership, or as a retirement watch, then a Rolex would make a great choice.

Just where my thoughts are now.

[dmash]

Originally Posted by Token74

I tried one on last year and loved the dial so much that my wife tried to make me pull the trigger there and then!

But...I couldn't do it and don't think I ever will.

I am a huge Rolex fan because Rolex does something special; creating quality watches (in terms of design and engineering) that can take a beating, like AP and Patek (for instance) can't.

This works exceptionally well for SS models, but is flawed when it comes to PM models, as (a) PM is not designed to take a beating and (b) it's a lot of money to spend on a watch for beating. And if you're not going to 'beat' it, then I believe there are finer watches out there (I.e. Patek and AP) for that kind of money. I have a cap of about £15k for a Rolex.

Of course, these are just my thoughts, and I am not necessarily normal! I'm not into jewellery in any way and as such PM doesn't hold any appeal, I fully recognise that lots of folk really value PM for the weight, feel and the sheen, and of course the relative exclusivity. £36k for me is also a shed load of cash, and if I was wealthier then maybe I would feel different, and 'value' would be less important to me. This is almost certainly the case.

I'd rather have a SS Daytona and a Royal Oak for my £36k (which is what I do have) than the Platona.

However, when all said and done, if you really love it then do it! If you regret it and then sell it, you may drop a couple of grand (at that price you're unlikely to take more of a hit) but you'll have got it out your system and learnt something. That happened to me once with a Sub LB which I only kept for two months, and I don't regret it as I had to try it!

Good luck in your decision.


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Wholly agree with this entire statement. Rolex hands down makes the best SS every day/beater/whatever you want to call it. I'm much more fond of other brands for PM though. I've personally never gotten the appeal of a smurf, or the BLRO for example. I think they look fantastic, of course, but would MUCH prefer both of them in a cheaper and more durable SS.

[GRB]

Originally Posted by garyfromleeds

I bet you feel like the luckiest man alive when you wear that !

I bet John worked very hard ,to earn that watch .

[marselluswallace]

Originally Posted by kunlun

This is well said.

Rolex makes durable watches, but they don't stand by their work, the watches are disposable. For example, if you have a problem with the bracelet, Rolex will tell you to buy a new bracelet. Think about that for a pm watch.

Rolex are well made disposable watches.

I really enjoy my SS rolex, but going pm is an issue if you want to keep the watch for your life, as I do. SS is really the way to go for Rolex.

At pt prices, you can get a real high-end watch that is made to be repaired for generations of enjoyment, not disposed.

That's why I'm not buying a pt DD40, but looking to spend more on a watch that will be mine for life and repaired as needed.

If I were just looking at 5-10 years of ownership, or as a retirement watch, then a Rolex would make a great choice.

Just where my thoughts are now.

I don't really agree with that.

I wore my YG Yachtmaster every day for 13 years-swimming/sauna/work/holidays/activities etc.Granted it was a little marked and scratched but I sent it away to be serviced and came back as good as new.In fact the AD had a brand new one in stock and we put both watches side by side and they were virtually indistinguishable.

Since then it had had more occasional but regular use-it still looks and performs like new.

[Malibuboy]

118206/218206? Smurf? BLRO?

Do you really use the chronology functions? I race around the track and I don't use it at all.

Thats just me though. Function over form in this case.

If this watch speaks to YOU, do yourself a favor and answer the call.

[SurewoodMike]

A beauty at any price.


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[Benjamin Choi]

That's nautilus money. It's like buying an m4 gts when for that money you could easily get a real Motorsport vehicle aka 911 gt3. 4series what?

Pm sport rolexes don't do nearly as well as their steel counterparts. Odd ball color too. Matches with just about nothing.

Ps if you already have a nautilus my bad for assuming


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[kunlun]

Originally Posted by marselluswallace

I don't really agree with that.

I wore my YG Yachtmaster every day for 13 years-swimming/sauna/work/holidays/activities etc.Granted it was a little marked and scratched but I sent it away to be serviced and came back as good as new.In fact the AD had a brand new one in stock and we put both watches side by side and they were virtually indistinguishable.

Since then it had had more occasional but regular use-it still looks and performs like new.

Light polishing is one thing, but if there's bracelet stretch (which will happen eventually to all bracelets, even with ceramic inserts, according to Rolex) or enough of a dent, then Rolex will not repair it to like new. You will have to replace it. See? Disposable. Other brands will repair theirs, though.

Not trying to be argumentative, but only to make the point that Rolex makes things durable and then doesn't stand behind their bracelets, etc. Things are replaced rather than repaired. For platinum and gold, this could be expensive and not worth it in the event of more serious damage. Other brands at the price point for a pt Rolex may not make things as durable but they may stand by their products with more complete ability to repair parts. I bought a yg Breguet used and had it basically repaired to like new, including the bracelet. Couldn't do that with a Rolex! At least, not without a third party.

[locutus49]

There are a lot of misstatements being made about PM Rolexes, especially platinum, which is extremely durable. And I have no doubt Rolex will stand behind their watches.

If you are an SS fan, fine. But unless you have owned a platinum model, I would like to see evidence of the negative assertions being made.

[wach16]

Personally for that kind of coin I would look at getting a PM AP or Patek but I do love the platinum daytona. I say go for it if you have the means!

[Etschell]

Dr tom beats the heck out of his platinum Daytona. Let's hear him chime in....

[rossi46]

Originally Posted by Token74

...This works exceptionally well for SS models, but is flawed when it comes to PM models, as (a) PM is not designed to take a beating and (b) it's a lot of money to spend on a watch for beating. And if you're not going to 'beat' it, then I believe there are finer watches out there (I.e. Patek and AP) for that kind of money. I have a cap of about £15k for a Rolex.

Of course, these are just my thoughts, and I am not necessarily normal! I'm not into jewellery in any way and as such PM doesn't hold any appeal, I fully recognise that lots of folk really value PM for the weight, feel and the sheen, and of course the relative exclusivity. £36k for me is also a shed load of cash, and if I was wealthier then maybe I would feel different, and 'value' would be less important to me. This is almost certainly the case.

This was such a good post. I feel the exact same way. Simply can't imagine spending that much on a Daytona that happens to be made out of a PM. In the end, it's "just" a Daytona.

Don't get me wrong - I love the Daytona and a SS ceramic black dial 116500 will be my next purchase. But for the kind of money you're talking about, there are so many other higher horological pieces that come to mind.

[kunlun]

Originally Posted by locutus49

There are a lot of misstatements being made about PM Rolexes, especially platinum, which is extremely durable. And I have no doubt Rolex will stand behind their watches.

If you are an SS fan, fine. But unless you have owned a platinum model, I would like to see evidence of the negative assertions being made.

No offense, I can only tell you what Rolex ADs are saying in NYC. They are very careful to note that all bracelets, particularly pm ones, will loosen over time. It's actually very good that they are clear about that with customers. The head of watch repair at Breguet in Switzerland used almost the exact same words as the Rolex people.

Rolex really, really does not repair bracelets that are damaged beyond what a polish can take care of. They dispose and replace them. They are made well, so no worries at all for most people, depending on length of ownership and use. For me, it's a concern. The cost of replacement versus repair was a $15,000 difference on my yg Breguet. Repair was a great option and in 15 or 20 years, I'll do it again if need be.

I do have a pt watch, just went upscale over Rolex for it. Will do so again.

Not trying to offend, but since this is an issue which changed the way I shop for a pt watch, I'm sharing it, and sticking to it a bit. Really only an issue at all for people like me with a bit of OCD and a desire for a lifelong watch. Irrelevant to most folks. I'll bow out with that.

[garyfromleeds]

Originally Posted by Benjamin Choi

That's nautilus money. It's like buying an m4 gts when for that money you could easily get a real Motorsport vehicle aka 911 gt3. 4series what?

Pm sport rolexes don't do nearly as well as their steel counterparts. Odd ball color too. Matches with just about nothing.

Ps if you already have a nautilus my bad for assuming


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Why would you buy a steel Patek for the price of a platinum Daytona ???
Am I missing something here ?

[rmlovett1]

IMO....coming from an owner/former owner, of white gold and platinum Rolex models. These watches are about the beauty and feel in the eyes/feelings of the owner. If YOU like the look/feel of the watch (PT or WG) that's all it's about.
Outside of WIS folks.....nobody will notice, care, and probably not comment, that's it's a PM watch. As any watch I've bought... I've bought PM as I've bought SS...because I like the watch, and how it feels/looks, and how I feel when wearing it.
For example...the Hulk and Smurf... two outstanding, beautiful looking watches, that to 99.9% of the world, are both SS, but....well you know.
So if you love the dial/bezel, feel, etc... of the PT Daytona....I'd say go for it!!! It's a gorgeous watch! Can't go wrong:)

[Rolex addict]

Originally Posted by kunlun

No offense, I can only tell you what Rolex ADs are saying in NYC. They are very careful to note that all bracelets, particularly pm ones, will loosen over time. It's actually very good that they are clear about that with customers. The head of watch repair at Breguet in Switzerland used almost the exact same words as the Rolex people.

Rolex really, really does not repair bracelets that are damaged beyond what a polish can take care of. They dispose and replace them. They are made well, so no worries at all for most people, depending on length of ownership and use. For me, it's a concern. The cost of replacement versus repair was a $15,000 difference on my yg Breguet. Repair was a great option and in 15 or 20 years, I'll do it again if need be.

I do have a pt watch, just went upscale over Rolex for it. Will do so again.

Not trying to offend, but since this is an issue which changed the way I shop for a pt watch, I'm sharing it, and sticking to it a bit. Really only an issue at all for people like me with a bit of OCD and a desire for a lifelong watch. Irrelevant to most folks. I'll bow out with that.

I'm guessing they did not tell you that PM oyster bracelets have ceramic sleeves/inserts. It prevents the metal on metal wear you see with the older bracelets.

[Etschell]

Originally Posted by Richris1

IMO....coming from an owner/former owner, of white gold and platinum Rolex models. These watches are about the beauty and feel in the eyes/feelings of the owner. If YOU like the look/feel of the watch (PT or WG) that's all it's about.
Outside of WIS folks.....nobody will notice, care, and probably not comment, that's it's a PM watch. As any watch I've bought... I've bought PM as I've bought SS...because I like the watch, and how it feels/looks, and how I feel when wearing it.
For example...the Hulk and Smurf... two outstanding, beautiful looking watches, that to 99.9% of the world, are both SS, but....well you know.
So if you love the dial/bezel, feel, etc... of the PT Daytona....I'd say go for it!!! It's a gorgeous watch! Can't go wrong:)

Agree great post!

[kunlun]

Originally Posted by Rolex addict

I'm guessing they did not tell you that PM oyster bracelets have ceramic sleeves/inserts. It prevents the metal on metal wear you see with the older bracelets.

Oh, they did. This is with that.

[Hollister]

Originally Posted by garyfromleeds

Why would you buy a steel Patek for the price of a platinum Daytona ???
Am I missing something here ?

You're missing a lot, yes! To start with, the Patek will almost without any doubt go up in value, whereas the Rolex will at best struggle to keep up with inflation, and may well depreciate. The blue/brown combo is an acquired taste, to say the least.

Patek is a way more prestigious and exclusive brand than Rolex - this is haute horology, arguably at its finest, at least among the mainstream brands. The BMW M4 vs 911 analogy above is apposite.

The Nautilus is an iconic watch.

[tkerrmd]

Originally Posted by Etschell

Dr tom beats the heck out of his platinum Daytona. Let's hear him chime in....

perfect watch for virtually any activity or event, my daily wearer by far and best watch I have ever worn or even touched for that matter, including Patek. but this is my taste and I actually prefer Rolex so your results may vary!

and at the price you are talking about its a no brainer. I paid 10% off retail when it first came out and to me it was till worth every penny!

[Ruud Van Driver]

Originally Posted by garyfromleeds

I've never owned a Daytona ceramic before but I do think the daytonas wear a tad small yes there 40mm but compared to a ceramic 40mm submariner they do seem smaller in size only very marginally .

Sorry mate, my bad. Obviously had you confused with another member. Now I recall it was (I think ) Golf Punk

[Chiboy]

Originally Posted by Hollister

You're missing a lot, yes! To start with, the Patek will almost without any doubt go up in value, whereas the Rolex will at best struggle to keep up with inflation, and may well depreciate. The blue/brown combo is an acquired taste, to say the least.

Patek is a way more prestigious and exclusive brand than Rolex - this is haute horology, arguably at its finest, at least among the mainstream brands. The BMW M4 vs 911 analogy above is apposite.

The Nautilus is an iconic watch.

I think the Rolex vs. Patek comparison is similar to the Porsche vs. Ferrari comparison, in that the former is a really excellent choice, but can withstand the rigors of daily driving, while the latter is "exotic" but more temperamental and expensive to maintain, and is more appropriate as a weekend car.

To further the analogy, I can see how some folks would view a platinum Daytona like optioning up a 911 Turbo S with carbon fiber everything and all kinds of other options and having the price tag get well into Ferrari territory. While I concede that point, I decided that for me an ALS Datograph or Patek whatever wouldn't be right as an everyday watch, with a strap in the ALS's case, and the platinum Daytona was worth it. I did try to buy it right and got it for less than cost while only two months old.

I can see both sides of the argument and honestly don't care how others stand on it. My opinion is the only one that matters to me and color me (ice blue) happy!

[Hollister]

The thing is, that a steel Daytona is every bit as durable as the plat version (arguably slightly more durable) at a small fraction of the price. You can get a steel Daytona AND a Nautilus for less than the platinum Daytona!

I've owned two Pateks for the past seven years, and both are working perectly, so the notion that they are "fragile" is completely alien to me.

[garyfromleeds]

I've never been a Patek man and will never will be ! Im a northern lad who grey up on a massive council estate in Sheffield and at the age of 18 I bought a non date submariner price £1750 used , my family thought I'd lost my mind ! I'm now 44 years old and still have the bug for Rolex so what I could buy elsewhere is not in question , the memories of my first submariner is worth more than money itself , it's where I came from to where I am now , my twin kids are now 4yrs old and we look at " tick watches " on my iPad almost everyday .

It's hard to explain its not just a watch .