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brandrea · 6 February 2018, 11:13 AM

Well done, congratulations on getting it back. I’d wear the heck out of that now

cris · 6 February 2018, 11:56 AM

nice. I've got a red sub too with a nice vintage dial, well preserved, but with a completely faded lume. If I send it to a RSC will they restore only the lume or exchange my dial?

Anyway I'm curious about the price you paid for a servicing a red sub in a RSC. Can you share this information?

dbhak22 · 6 February 2018, 04:04 PM

Nicely done! I guess there ARE times when it makes sense to send it to an RSC, :)

Amazed that they still have red Sub service dials. Thanks so much for sharing!

Rc30matt · 6 February 2018, 07:25 PM

Would this be a Luminova dial and hands?

emersm · 6 February 2018, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cris

nice. I've got a red sub too with a nice vintage dial, well preserved, but with a completely faded lume. If I send it to a RSC will they restore only the lume or exchange my dial?

Anyway I'm curious about the price you paid for a servicing a red sub in a RSC. Can you share this information?

I am not sure if that service is offered. If I were to guess, I would say that they would not restore the lume. I will post the costs associated with this repair for TRF members to see.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rc30matt

Would this be a Luminova dial and hands?

Yes, Luminova. I will post a night shot of the dial. It's pretty bright!

emersm · 6 February 2018, 08:17 PM

I struggled with sharing the costs associated with this repair. However, after consulting with a well respected TRF moderator, I have decided to share the information with all of you.

NECESSARY SERVICE / PARTS Charges
l Full service........................................... .................................................. .................................................. ............ 1,000.00
l Replace crown............................................. .................................................. .................................................. ..... 0.00
l Replace dial and hands............................................. .................................................. ........................................... 0.00
l Buff case.............................................. .................................................. .................................................. ............ 0.00
l Buff bracelet.......................................... .................................................. .................................................. .......... 0.00
l Change fittings.......................................... .................................................. .................................................. ....... 0.00
l CROWN 704-0 AC MONOBLOC.......................................... .................................................. .............................. 87.00
l DIAL 1680-0 BLACK RED PRINT MARKERS LGN............................................... .............................................. 1,375.00
l HANDS 5513-0 /1665 /1675 240 G BATON LUMI.............................................. .................................................. . 69.00
l SECOND HAND TR 1665-0 240 85 G DISQ LUMI.............................................. .................................................. 36.00
l 2 x HOLLOW FITTING ASSEMBLED 580 20 ST................................................ .................................................. 138.00
l Replace disc for bezel............................................. .................................................. .................................................. ....... 0.00
l DISC FOR BEZEL 5513/12 /1665 /80 /9401 NOIR LUMI.............................................. ................................................. Necessary Service/Parts Total 48.00
2,753.00
Shipping & Handling 0.00
Additional Sales Tax Total Necessary Service/Parts Charges 0.00
2,753.00

The original "assessment" fee was waived and I was given an additional discount for the extended time it took to get the watch back to me. (9 months)

The total was significantly less than I had anticipated when I originally sent the watch in.

HERITAGE82 · 6 February 2018, 10:05 PM

^Thank you for sharing this cost breakdown, and now you are into the watch for a lil under $10k which is an incredible deal!

strafer_kid · 6 February 2018, 11:51 PM

Looks pretty good...enjoy!

BDL · 7 February 2018, 12:05 AM

Game over. You win.

emersm · 7 February 2018, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

It's been quite a long time since a watch made me go wow here on TRF. I'm trying to find the words to describe what I feel and can only think to say this has to be my favorite watch of all time on TRF.
Congrats.

Wow!, thank you! I appreciate all of the kind words; thanks, guys/gals!

swish77 · 7 February 2018, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HERITAGE82

^Thank you for sharing this cost breakdown, and now you are into the watch for a lil under $10k which is an incredible deal!

Hmmm ... The nature of the deal is tough to assess. It's a great story, and kudos to the OP for having the patience and determination to get the end result. However, all vintage qualities of this watch are now gone, although I realize that when purchased the watch was already a wreck.

This Sub now looks fantastic and is super cool, but I'm not sure about its appeal/value in the world of vintage watch collecting.

ny_yeti · 7 February 2018, 02:04 AM

My goodness, that is stunning. An absolutely perfect piece. Congrats!!!

HERITAGE82 · 7 February 2018, 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swish77

Hmmm ... The nature of the deal is tough to assess. It's a great story, and kudos to the OP for having the patience and determination to get the end result. However, all vintage qualities of this watch are now gone, although I realize that when purchased the watch was already a wreck.

This Sub now looks fantastic and is super cool, but I'm not sure about its appeal/value in the world of vintage watch collecting.

I believe this watch has a lot of value in the vintage watch world especially with how rare a Luminova Red Sub dial is. Also, yes the patina and original nature of the watch is now gone, but there are many people out there that would pay a premium for this new looking red Sub... definitely more than the $10k the OP has in it.

My

anakyn101 · 7 February 2018, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emersm

Well, I finally got my 1969/1970 Red Submariner back from the New York RSC after waiting 9 long months.

To say that I am pleased with the results of the servicing would be a gross understatement. Below, is a link of the watch before I sent it in for servicing.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=528897

After I posted that link I was going to return the watch to the seller but decided to pursue the RSC route in hopes that I would be able to acquire a new, super rare, red service dial.

I called over to the New York RSC and was told that if I sent the watch in that it would be replaced with a white service dial. I called a few more times and talked to a supervisor who confirmed that they do not have any red service dials.

I had become attached to the watch for some reason and decided that I wanted to "save" it.

I reached out to Michael Young for a quote to restore the dial and was getting ready to ship it to him when I came across this thread.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=286496

I love the look of the 1680 red subs and after seeing all of the beautiful vintage watches with new service dials with functioning lume, I knew that I had to keep trying.

I emailed and called Rolex Geneva to see if they could offer some assistance. Rolex Geneva replied after a few days and said that they would forward my request to the New York RSC. I noticed there was a case reference number, which was also CC'd to RSC New York.

Within 2 days one of the supervisors at RSC New York contacted me and made arrangements for me to send my watch in and explained that once the watch was dis-assembled, the dial would be sent to Geneva for authentication. Once the dial was authenticated, Rolex Geneva sent a "red" submariner service dial back to New York for service and re-assembly.

So, here we are... 9 longs months later. I can tell you that I am VERY happy and pleased with the results.

The first thing I noticed is that the service bezel insert is fatter than the older service insert that was on the watch when I sent it in.

I will upload the pics now via TapaTalk.

Amazing work!!!
How much did they ask?
Congratulations

Rolex addict · 8 February 2018, 10:40 AM

That looks incredible!!!

Sundaydriver · 8 February 2018, 11:03 AM

Wow.

crazycarlitos · 8 February 2018, 12:01 PM

Beautiful !

Looks brand new. Well done !

cajunron · 8 February 2018, 02:45 PM

That is one helluva stunning piece of history. I am SOOO jealous! Congrats and wear in good health.

77T · 8 February 2018, 02:58 PM

Amazing work. You now have a like new beauty.

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ewin · 8 February 2018, 09:19 PM

Wow very nice! Best of all worlds

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cris · 10 February 2018, 04:58 AM

Thank you for sharing the infos.
Just spoke with a RSC local employee and can confirm the price for the full servicing (aorund 1000,00 euros)

Did they let you to keep all the replaced parts?

haven_seeker · 10 February 2018, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cris

Thank you for sharing the infos.
Just spoke with a RSC local employee and can confirm the price for the full servicing (aorund 1000,00 euros)

Did they let you to keep all the replaced parts?

RSC never does.

emersm · 10 February 2018, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cris

Thank you for sharing the infos.
Just spoke with a RSC local employee and can confirm the price for the full servicing (aorund 1000,00 euros)

Did they let you to keep all the replaced parts?

No, they keep all of the old parts. They replace parts on a “trade-in” basis.

00Seven · 10 February 2018, 11:29 AM

Just amazing. Congrats!

Fredrik · 10 February 2018, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haven_seeker

RSC never does.

Actually it depends, I always get my parts back.

emersm · 11 February 2018, 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fredrik

Actually it depends, I always get my parts back.

From the RSC?

thomaswentworth · 11 February 2018, 11:46 AM

That looks really nice. I think I prefer the aged original dial and scratches, but that looks incredible as it is. Rolex did an amazing job for you.

Does having the Rolex service dial hurt the value at all?

emersm · 11 February 2018, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomaswentworth

That looks really nice. I think I prefer the aged original dial and scratches, but that looks incredible as it is. Rolex did an amazing job for you.

Does having the Rolex service dial hurt the value at all?

In the vintage world, yes, the service dial hurts the value. But, the service dial is significantly scarcer.

Frogman4me · 11 February 2018, 02:00 PM

Congrats and enjoy.

superstarmar · 11 February 2018, 02:09 PM

stunning to say the least... Congrats and wear it in good health...

6 February 2018, 04:04 PM	#63
dbhak22 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Real Name: Daniel Location: PNW Watch: ♛ Posts: 3,063	Nicely done! I guess there ARE times when it makes sense to send it to an RSC, :) Amazed that they still have red Sub service dials. Thanks so much for sharing! __________________ GMT II (16710) \| Explorer I (1016) \| Datejust I (116234) \| Submariner (1680) \| Day-Date (1803) \| Royal Oak (25594) \| FOIS (2998 spec) \| Submariner (16808)

6 February 2018, 10:05 PM	#67
HERITAGE82 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,435	^Thank you for sharing this cost breakdown, and now you are into the watch for a lil under $10k which is an incredible deal! __________________ - Rolex Explorer - 214270 - Tudor Black Bay - 79230B - Tudor Chronograph - 79270P - Breitling Chronomat - 10th Anniv. - Huguenin Freres Speedmaster Prototype

8 February 2018, 12:01 PM	#77
crazycarlitos "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,909	Beautiful ! Looks brand new. Well done ! __________________

8 February 2018, 02:45 PM	#78
cajunron 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Ronnie Location: Southeastern USA Watch: Omega Seamaster PO Posts: 3,872	That is one helluva stunning piece of history. I am SOOO jealous! Congrats and wear in good health. __________________

8 February 2018, 02:58 PM	#79
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 41,957	Amazing work. You now have a like new beauty. Sent from my iPhoneX using Tapatalk __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

6 February 2018, 11:13 AM	#61
brandrea 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 77,931	Well done, congratulations on getting it back. I’d wear the heck out of that now

6 February 2018, 11:56 AM	#62
cris "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: italy Posts: 17	nice. I've got a red sub too with a nice vintage dial, well preserved, but with a completely faded lume. If I send it to a RSC will they restore only the lume or exchange my dial? Anyway I'm curious about the price you paid for a servicing a red sub in a RSC. Can you share this information?

6 February 2018, 07:25 PM	#64
Rc30matt "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: uk and usa Posts: 12	Would this be a Luminova dial and hands?

6 February 2018, 08:17 PM	#66
emersm 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Real Name: Merle Location: USA Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,531	I struggled with sharing the costs associated with this repair. However, after consulting with a well respected TRF moderator, I have decided to share the information with all of you. NECESSARY SERVICE / PARTS Charges l Full service........................................... .................................................. .................................................. ............ 1,000.00 l Replace crown............................................. .................................................. .................................................. ..... 0.00 l Replace dial and hands............................................. .................................................. ........................................... 0.00 l Buff case.............................................. .................................................. .................................................. ............ 0.00 l Buff bracelet.......................................... .................................................. .................................................. .......... 0.00 l Change fittings.......................................... .................................................. .................................................. ....... 0.00 l CROWN 704-0 AC MONOBLOC.......................................... .................................................. .............................. 87.00 l DIAL 1680-0 BLACK RED PRINT MARKERS LGN............................................... .............................................. 1,375.00 l HANDS 5513-0 /1665 /1675 240 G BATON LUMI.............................................. .................................................. . 69.00 l SECOND HAND TR 1665-0 240 85 G DISQ LUMI.............................................. .................................................. 36.00 l 2 x HOLLOW FITTING ASSEMBLED 580 20 ST................................................ .................................................. 138.00 l Replace disc for bezel............................................. .................................................. .................................................. ....... 0.00 l DISC FOR BEZEL 5513/12 /1665 /80 /9401 NOIR LUMI.............................................. ................................................. Necessary Service/Parts Total 48.00 2,753.00 Shipping & Handling 0.00 Additional Sales Tax Total Necessary Service/Parts Charges 0.00 2,753.00 The original "assessment" fee was waived and I was given an additional discount for the extended time it took to get the watch back to me. (9 months) The total was significantly less than I had anticipated when I originally sent the watch in.

6 February 2018, 11:51 PM	#68
strafer_kid "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Kenny Location: northern ireland Watch: SDs, Subs & GMTs Posts: 5,136	Looks pretty good...enjoy!

7 February 2018, 12:05 AM	#69
BDL 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: @ticks_and_sticks Posts: 952	Game over. You win.

7 February 2018, 02:04 AM	#72
ny_yeti "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Real Name: Aaron Location: portland, or Watch: 126610LN Posts: 531	My goodness, that is stunning. An absolutely perfect piece. Congrats!!!

8 February 2018, 10:40 AM	#75
Rolex addict Banned Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: The Enabler Location: South Cackalacky Watch: me crash my bike Posts: 5,564	That looks incredible!!!

8 February 2018, 11:03 AM	#76
Sundaydriver Banned Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: USA Watch: Seamaster, GMT II Posts: 65	Wow.

8 February 2018, 09:19 PM	#80
ewin "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Singapore Posts: 1	Wow very nice! Best of all worlds Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10 February 2018, 04:58 AM	#81
cris "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: italy Posts: 17	Thank you for sharing the infos. Just spoke with a RSC local employee and can confirm the price for the full servicing (aorund 1000,00 euros) Did they let you to keep all the replaced parts?

10 February 2018, 11:29 AM	#84
00Seven "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Nick Location: Kennesaw, GA Watch: Omega Posts: 825	Just amazing. Congrats!

11 February 2018, 11:46 AM	#87
thomaswentworth Banned Join Date: Feb 2018 Real Name: Tom Wentworth Location: Los Angeles Watch: Rolex 116610 Sub Posts: 541	That looks really nice. I think I prefer the aged original dial and scratches, but that looks incredible as it is. Rolex did an amazing job for you. Does having the Rolex service dial hurt the value at all?

11 February 2018, 02:00 PM	#89
Frogman4me Banned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 6,268	Congrats and enjoy.

11 February 2018, 02:09 PM	#90
superstarmar Banned Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: In Motion Watch: my wrist presence Posts: 7,436	stunning to say the least... Congrats and wear it in good health...

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