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Old 8 February 2018, 05:04 AM   #61
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Diamonds are for ladies.
Some men like diamonds. My 18948 Tridor, my 18956 bril are two Gents Rolex models which would look out of place without the diamonds.

I love diamonds, and I personally feel as if they are not only for ladies.
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Old 8 February 2018, 05:10 AM   #62
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NI mean rolexes are awesome and valuable. Diamonds are valuable. Put them together and it should be ultra valuable. But it just isn’t so.

Why?
Why are diamonds valuable? Because a price controlling cartel tells you so?

A Rolex is at its heart a tool watch, made to be used in a variety of ways. How do gemstones enhance its time keeping ability?

Put them together if you like, I prefer my watches to look like watches.
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Old 8 February 2018, 05:25 AM   #63
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I personally like diamonds on my watch. But the factory pricing is very high.
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Old 8 February 2018, 05:27 AM   #64
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I totally agree! The only exception for me is the serti sub dials with diamonds!!
There is the lume functionality argument. Then there's the blinged up bezels with no numbers on them anymore. No man could appreciate those.
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Old 8 February 2018, 05:27 AM   #65
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I personally like diamonds on my watch. But the factory pricing is very high.

They are indeed .. Especially MOP and Meteorite dials set with diamonds .. But they are beautiful, and worth every penny
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Old 8 February 2018, 05:35 AM   #66
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Well, one thing you've got to consider is that this forum is not representative of your typical Rolex customer.

We're much more sports watches oriented here. Just start a thread asking if you should buy a sub or a DJ sometime.

So...we're going to be lukewarm here. But, out there...
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Old 8 February 2018, 05:36 AM   #67
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Why are diamonds valuable? Because a price controlling cartel tells you so?

A Rolex is at its heart a tool watch, made to be used in a variety of ways. How do gemstones enhance its time keeping ability?

Put them together if you like, I prefer my watches to look like watches.
How does gold or platinum or shiny PCLs enhance its timekeeping ability? Really, a $12 Timex will keep better time than any Rolex. The fact that we're even debating this is ridiculous.

A Rolex is not a tool watch, nobody needs a $10,000 stainless steel watch to go diving or climb a mountain or fly an airplane or to go yachting.

It is jewelry. If you like diamonds, get them! If you don't like them, then don't get them. It's that simple really.
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Old 8 February 2018, 05:40 AM   #68
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that's just gilding the lily.....
Exactly the words I was about to use.
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Old 8 February 2018, 05:44 AM   #69
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I think they look great on ladies and add to the appearence. Just a personal preferance. On men, I think the they look great without them. A little too blingy for me.
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Old 8 February 2018, 05:47 AM   #70
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I am very pro diamond as long as they are Rolex diamonds and done in moderation.
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Old 8 February 2018, 05:57 AM   #71
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I am very pro diamond as long as they are Rolex diamonds and done in moderation.
Totally agree. Although, I probably wouldn't sport a watch with a diamond bezel. I haven't seen one yet that I would consider anyway... never say never I guess.

Diamond number markers are perfectly fine with me though and they would have to be Rolex diamonds. No aftermarket dials here.

This is my grail watch at the moment.

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Old 8 February 2018, 05:59 AM   #72
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A Rolex is not a tool watch...It is jewelry.
Wait...aren't they only sold at Official Rolex Tool Watch Dispensaries?
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Old 8 February 2018, 06:00 AM   #73
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I love my serti dial .. but miss the lume ... no lume with Diamond markers ... Although my tritium lume would have been long gone anyway ...
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Old 8 February 2018, 06:04 AM   #74
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Wait...aren't they only sold at Officaial Rolex Tool Watch Dispensaries?
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Old 8 February 2018, 06:06 AM   #75
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Mmmm, diamonds cause excessive pricing and depreciation; just say "no."
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Old 8 February 2018, 06:09 AM   #76
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Mmmm, diamonds cause excessive pricing and depreciation; just say "no."
No, lower desirability causes depreciation.

There is no doubt that there is greater profit in the PM models and the models with diamonds though.
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Old 8 February 2018, 06:13 AM   #77
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Diamonds are just an extra item on an already expensive watch. I think of it like putting a whale tail on the back of a 911, like from the late 80's. Does it make the car faster? No. Handle better? Not for daily driving an commuting. Improve gas mileage? No. But they add a certain look to the car that enhances it to some people's eyes.

Prices being equal I'd opt for diamonds on certain models, DD mainly. But I wouldn't pay extra for them as they do not improve the watch function whatsoever.
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Old 8 February 2018, 06:21 AM   #78
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[QUOTE=SDRider;8258845]How does gold or platinum or shiny PCLs enhance its timekeeping ability? Really, a $12 Timex will keep better time than any Rolex. The fact that we're even debating this is ridiculous.

A Rolex is not a tool watch, nobody needs a $10,000 stainless steel watch to go diving or climb a mountain or fly an airplane or to go yachting.

It is jewelry. If you like diamonds, get them! If you don't like them, then don't get them. It's that simple really.[/QUOTE

This is true ;) but having a Rolex while doing those activities is better lol cheers
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Old 8 February 2018, 06:24 AM   #79
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I like diamonds on dials but not encrusted cases
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Old 8 February 2018, 06:32 AM   #80
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Diamonds are just an extra item on an already expensive watch. I think of it like putting a whale tail on the back of a 911, like from the late 80's. Does it make the car faster? No. Handle better? Not for daily driving an commuting. Improve gas mileage? No. But they add a certain look to the car that enhances it to some people's eyes.
The same could be said for extreme WR and helium escape valves. Nobody needs either, except saturation divers, but we see lots of fans wax poetic about the SD and DSSD. I would even bet my entire investment portfolio that if Rolex ever released the Deepsea Challenge to the public, we would have members putting their names on waitlists for it. In all my years on multiple watch forums, I can only ever recall seeing one saturation diver as a member, and he said he never wore a watch on the job anyway.
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Old 8 February 2018, 06:34 AM   #81
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I love my serti dial .. but miss the lume ... no lume with Diamond markers ... Although my tritium lume would have been long gone anyway ...
That's a beauty you have there. I know this may sound like blasphemy, but yours is the only watch where I'd buy Luminova hands to get a general idea of the time in the dark. After all there is no other patina'd lume to match - it's more functional with modern hands.


(and keep the originals for future switch back if selling it later)
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Old 8 February 2018, 06:55 AM   #82
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The same could be said for extreme WR and helium escape valves. Nobody needs either, except saturation divers, but we see lots of fans wax poetic about the SD and DSSD. I would even bet my entire investment portfolio that if Rolex ever released the Deepsea Challenge to the public, we would have members putting their names on waitlists for it. In all my years on multiple watch forums, I can only ever recall seeing one saturation diver as a member, and he said he never wore a watch on the job anyway.


I get what you are saying but the He valve is an additional function that has use for, admittedly, a very select few. Diamonds don’t add any functionality to the watch, like the 911 whale tail adds nothing performance enhancing, it is simply an add on to enhance the look. Some cars, the 911 RS GT3 for example, that comes with the large spoiler is made to increase down force and increase control/ handling when the car is pushed. I’d say that’s more like the He valve, useful bit to a select few.


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Old 8 February 2018, 07:07 AM   #83
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How does gold or platinum or shiny PCLs enhance its timekeeping ability? Really, a $12 Timex will keep better time than any Rolex. The fact that we're even debating this is ridiculous.

A Rolex is not a tool watch, nobody needs a $10,000 stainless steel watch to go diving or climb a mountain or fly an airplane or to go yachting.

It is jewelry. If you like diamonds, get them! If you don't like them, then don't get them. It's that simple really.
This is true ;) but having a Rolex while doing those activities is better lol cheers
Oh, there's no disputing that.
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I get what you are saying but the He valve is an additional function that has use for, admittedly, a very select few.
Fair point. I suppose the appeal of the SD and DSSD for some is that the watch really does perform a certain function, even if the wearer will never have a need for the function.

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Diamonds don’t add any functionality to the watch, like the 911 whale tail adds nothing performance enhancing, it is simply an add on to enhance the look.
I would still draw a distinction between diamonds and poseur car spoilers. The non-functioning spoilers are an affectation designed to make the car look like it can do something it actually can't; it masquerades as functional, when it is really cosmetic. I once had a Miata turbo that came stock with one. I hated the thing because it struck me as total BS. I even considered having it removed, but I would have had to replace the entire trunk panel, so I left it.

Everybody knows diamonds on a watch have no function; they're purely cosmetic, much the same way PM is, so they're not masquerading as anything. They just create a certain look, which a person either likes or doesn't.
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Old 8 February 2018, 07:39 AM   #86
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Some cars, the 911 RS GT3 for example, that comes with the large spoiler is made to increase down force and increase control/ handling when the car is pushed.
i'm trying to remember is that the Porsche that has killed many people, including two of my track friends. It was the horrible top-line Porsche from about 8 or 10 years ago, not sure if that's the right model.

Anywho old-school whale tail Porsches, i think, are now going for good money. Agree some people have cars <cough> ricers </cough> and do some 'silly things'. Of course i did some 'silly things' cosmetically and mechanically to cars during my youth. And look how i turned out?

Oh...

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Old 8 February 2018, 07:41 AM   #87
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Noobie here. Love the forum but please forgive my ignorance and lack of knowledge.

It seems to me that people don’t really love the diamond references as much as the ones without. Some diamond versions don’t even seem to be selling for much more than the non diamond ones.

Can you give me some insight to why this is? I mean rolexes are awesome and valuable. Diamonds are valuable. Put them together and it should be ultra valuable. But it just isn’t so.

Why?
Diamonds are worthless.debeers fooled people into thinking they had value.resale on diamonds is a joke even certified clean stones they are worthless trash but look nice i guess if the stones are factory set
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Old 8 February 2018, 07:47 AM   #88
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Yeh, and dogs are men's best friend.

Resale value seems to be inversely proportional to the level of bling for a watch. If the diamonds are more discrete (eg. PP 5170P and 116506), then they don't affect the resale value as much.
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Old 8 February 2018, 07:50 AM   #89
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Here at TRF I am known as the "King Of Bling" with my different DD's and DJ's which have diamond dials, bezels and even bracelets on some of the Rolex watches in my collection. And I'm not a girl.
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Old 8 February 2018, 07:52 AM   #90
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Agreed .. Remember the GMT Ice? That was a sad looking mess .. I prefer dials and bezels, although my 18956bril looks good with that bracelet.
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