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Old 23 March 2018, 02:45 AM   #61
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Oh well, my next watch was already going to be a Grand Seiko anyway.
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Old 23 March 2018, 02:46 AM   #62
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I think you're being harsh but at the same time I think that this criticism is what Rolex needs. I am so unimpressed with modern Rolex that I have literally reverted my collection to only five-digit references. FYI, I have owned the Hulk (and loved it), the BLNR, and the 114060. I am willing to speak with my wallet. Problem is, most are not.
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Old 23 March 2018, 02:46 AM   #63
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Thanks! I just try to look behind the curtain and see the reasons for things..it gets me in trouble sometimes...

I really felt strongly it was going to be a pepsi once the promo video came out...I just was traveling around and didn't get a chance to pontificate my belief that they would not be doing a COKE, but a Pepsi to recoup their costs....I think some other peeps have mentioned that as well...

The sacred ground of PM only in certain models or colorways is pretty much over. That ended with the Skydweller last year. Now with the absolutely unthinkable...moving the Pepsi to SS....while still using it in WG???????? But, again, they need to recoup that bezel...

I think the Day Date is still safe as a PM only model as it is as old as dirt and paid for itself many times over....




or is it? Muahhhahha

oh no the Day Date 118230 at Basel '19 to move the remaining 3155s

And funny thing is, I'd actually consider buying it too

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Old 23 March 2018, 03:12 AM   #64
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Lazy???? They have the same watches since the 60’s... BAU if you ask me.

Reminds me of an interview with Craig Ferguson and the actress says “oh you still have the same cup!” And he replies “yea! I’m not hip like the new kids with a different cup every day!”


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Old 23 March 2018, 03:45 AM   #65
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Rolex has gone too far already. I wish they'd stop with the special editions or tribute models. Rolex doesn't need retreds to pull in cash; they should look to the future - carefully and slowly. New movement and maybe some case size offerings is plenty.

One of the reasons for Rolex's success is the conservative, classic models that have become icons.
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Old 23 March 2018, 03:55 AM   #66
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I was thinking just the same and lazy feels like a proper word.


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Old 23 March 2018, 03:59 AM   #67
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What about Rolex not giving a about the people that purchased a 116719BLRO ? Now that's just lazy.
They would have sold just as many if not more black & red bezels and not pissed off the PM buyers.

Hey Rolex -
I think the fair concession is to say Rolex are not happy with the Coke's red they have produced or not happy with the success rate, rather than they are deliberately eschewing that option to annoy BLRO owners.
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Old 23 March 2018, 04:02 AM   #68
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The new Daytona is worth shaming, what does it's tachymetre scale count with those silly stones? It's kind of a bummer that with a limited release line, one is as lame and functionally derelict as that time-only Daytona...
I was hoping for some update to the Cellini line because I think the moonphase date they introduced last year is so good, and that with a triple date function would have been an insta-classic, basel winner.
It's for the Oligarch's wives so will do its job.
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Old 23 March 2018, 04:04 AM   #69
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I think the fair concession is to say Rolex are not happy with the Coke's red they have produced or not happy with the success rate, rather than they deliberately eschewing that option to annoy BLRO owners.
Agree. More like negligent behaviour and not deliberate. But harmful nonetheless.
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Old 23 March 2018, 04:04 AM   #70
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After what they did with the SkD and BLRO, I’m done buying Rolex WG models.
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So...I've slowly been dumping the YG and going for steel or WG. As a matter of fact, have a WG and a steel coming tomorrow. Basel 19 be damned.
And one of their best releases of recent times is the WG OF Daytona, but now I would be seriously worried they add a bracelet model.

Look forward to seeing it!
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Old 23 March 2018, 04:06 AM   #71
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and they don't give a rat's about their customers.

Bear with me.

A few new Datejusts. Ok cool..

A new movement put into basically the same watch with a crown at the 6 to differentiate.

A new blue dial on a pre-existing white gold GMT.

A white and a black OP 39. Oh, but wait they improved the lume.

A horrific new Daytona..

and finally take some pre-existing blue and red ( ok really kinda purple and kinda red ) ceramic bezels they had laying around and put them on a SS GMT. But we will give it a jubilee bracelet to make everyone swoon. They couldn't even make this a Coke instead? Lazy.


Rolex you have outdone yourself in ness.




Makes me long for the awfulness of what was the Ceramic Yachtmaster II release.

Rolex is just lazy. Resting on their laurels.

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In my teens, I worked for a small health club that had a few branches. The owner had plenty of money to get new equipment. The staff would have loved to have new equipment. But he told us that you can't bring in everything at once. You have to add it little by little so there is always something new. You can't give everything you have all at once.

Look at Intel and computer companies. They release updated chips that are a little faster than the last one periodically. They could easily jump over several steps, but what would that do? They would quickly be at the highest speeds they can get and that would be the end of that. Nobody would need a faster computer, cell phone, etc. anymore. Smart companies keep you coming back for more year after year. Rolex is a very, very smart company.
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Old 23 March 2018, 04:07 AM   #72
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What about Rolex not giving a about the people that purchased a 116719BLRO ? Now that's just lazy.
They would have sold just as many if not more black & red bezels and not pissed off the PM buyers.

Hey Rolex -
i still prefer the discontinued WG BLRO to the SS BLRO with a jubilee.

The New WG BLRO is interesting too with the blue dial but i need to see that one in person first. If i was in the market for a pepsi i would still get the PM version.
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oh no the Day Date 118230 at Basel '19 to move the remaining 3155s

And funny thing is, I'd actually consider buying it too

The cold hard truth is that altho it would be utterly unforgivably scandalous to release the DD40 in SS, so many of us would trample over the PM owners to get to one!
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Old 23 March 2018, 04:08 AM   #74
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And Larry one of their best releases of recent times is the WG OF Daytona, but now I would be seriously worried they add a bracelet model.
agree. WG daytona on OF is the only Rolex im excited about, and still am a year later. Who knows that may be my next watch.

Still think i prefer the rubber to bracelet for that one though. Maybe next year they release a bracelet version, but i still think i would get the OF.
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Old 23 March 2018, 04:13 AM   #75
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agree. WG daytona on OF is the only Rolex im excited about, and still am a year later. Who knows that may be my next watch.

Still think i prefer the rubber to bracelet for that one though. Maybe next year they release a bracelet version, but i still think i would get the OF.
Really? I do love the 5164 on rubber, which I see as quite similar, but think I'd rather have the Daytona on a bracelet. If that is released I think the OF price starts to fall like a typical Daytona and this surprising PM hype bubble gets pricked.
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Old 23 March 2018, 04:20 AM   #76
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The cold hard truth is that altho it would be utterly unforgivably scandalous to release the DD40 in SS, so many of us would trample over the PM owners to get to one!
I would be among said tramplers!
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Old 23 March 2018, 04:21 AM   #77
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Really? I do love the 5164 on rubber, which I see as quite similar, but think I'd rather have the Daytona on a bracelet. If that is released I think the OF price starts to fall like a typical Daytona and this surprising PM hype bubble gets pricked.
i was considering the aquanaut chrono too so the WG daytona on OF will be much less similar to the 5164.

I only have one watch on rubber at the moment and i need another.
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Old 23 March 2018, 04:28 AM   #78
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I don't know a single company that can make real changes year after year, especially in the watch business. Rolex really aced everything last year with the Daytona and SD but it's impossible to even for them to be the best every single year. Give it another year or two and I'm sure they will be back for more buzz!
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Old 23 March 2018, 05:29 AM   #79
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Eh, from your post, I just interpret your "lazy" as "they didn't give me what I wanted."

Or it could be that they make many watches?
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Old 23 March 2018, 05:32 AM   #80
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Lazy perhaps, but for all the R&D that went into making the ceramic pepsi bezel, they will now achieve economies of scale by being able to dramatically increase sales in the SS variant.
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Old 23 March 2018, 05:35 AM   #81
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Old 23 March 2018, 05:38 AM   #82
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I’m not crazy with anything this year but there is a huge back catalogue of older Rolex models that are still great pieces.


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Old 23 March 2018, 05:39 AM   #83
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Rolex is just lazy. Resting on their laurels.
Try as I might, I just can't see this being the case.
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Old 23 March 2018, 05:43 AM   #84
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The cold hard truth is that altho it would be utterly unforgivably scandalous to release the DD40 in SS, so many of us would trample over the PM owners to get to one!
Oh wow could you imagine the demand if Rolex made a SS Day Date and gave it the Turn-o-graph treatment with more sporty dials as well. If you thought the SS Sky D was in high demand, look out

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Old 23 March 2018, 05:47 AM   #85
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To those with a PM.....What’s the big fuss about the new PM GMT? I read all the time....”no one knows it’s WG and not SS.....thats the beauty of it.....but I know and that’s ALL that matters”.....
Agree. The "...all that matters..." should still apply.
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Old 23 March 2018, 06:05 AM   #86
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agree. WG daytona on OF is the only Rolex im excited about, and still am a year later. Who knows that may be my next watch.

Still think i prefer the rubber to bracelet for that one though. Maybe next year they release a bracelet version, but i still think i would get the OF.
Funny. I'm trying to work out a deal for a WG Oysterflex right at this moment. My only reservation is having another watch on rubber and the choice I would have to make every morning - which I have to admit, would still have me grabbing the 5164 9 times out of 10.
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I agree with OP, new wg blro with old movement? proper odd
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Old 23 March 2018, 06:35 AM   #88
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Not every year can be a homerun...

But still, SS Pepsi this year,
SD43 last year,
DaytonaC 2 years ago...

It’s not so bad. Lol
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If they curried favor from the small percentage that have to have something startling every year, they would be out of business quickly.
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They did not even set the new GMT caliber in the WG model that is a joke !
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