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Old 10 December 2008, 02:38 AM   #1
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A bit of a shitstirring thread in my opinion.

Real men can wear their wife's pink underwear with a wry smile on their face, I reckon.
You and your big fat mouth, Paul. Now what the hell do I tell Zemina?
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Old 12 December 2008, 01:31 AM   #3
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A bit of a shitstirring thread in my opinion.

Real men can wear their wife's pink underwear with a wry smile on their face, I reckon.
Has the above profanity slipped past the moderators by oversight or are some posters allowed more leeway than others..................?
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Old 12 December 2008, 02:11 AM   #4
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Instead of the quick title edit, the thread should have been deleted. Utter nonsense and a waste of bandwidth.
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Old 12 December 2008, 02:39 AM   #5
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Instead of the quick title edit, the thread should have been deleted. Utter nonsense and a waste of bandwidth.
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Old 12 December 2008, 02:07 PM   #6
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Instead of the quick title edit, the thread should have been deleted. Utter nonsense and a waste of bandwidth.
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Old 10 December 2008, 02:28 AM   #7
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I wear my watch as a watch but not as jewellery. i dont really give a damn if it gets scratches or not, however I do take precaution to not to get it damaged as it is actually an expensive piece.
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Old 10 December 2008, 03:22 AM   #8
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I'm with Mike. Great watches that will not let you down.

I also agree that you'd be crazy to mess them up intentionally. But they're made for wearing - so enjoy!! And a few cratches here and there just add to the provenance - who wants a polished vintage watch? Gotta get the real deal - warts and all!

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Old 10 December 2008, 04:53 AM   #9
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Meh, they may be a tool watch, but they have different uses. A GMT is used to tell two time zones, so getting banged up is not a requirement during the course of duty (unless you happen to be a particularly rough traveller). When Rolex makes a watch for yard mowing (Mowmaster??) perhaps I'll buy it and mow away...
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Old 10 December 2008, 07:35 AM   #10
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Wear it 24/7. That is what it is for.
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Old 11 December 2008, 05:12 PM   #11
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I used to wear my 1655 Explorer daily, even through Officer Cadet school, where it picked up quite a few scratches, but the Rolex AD always managed to clean it up back to "as new" whenever it went in for servicing. It only just got retired this year as a daily wearer when I realised how collectible it is and have replaced it with a newer GMT for daily use. Even then, when the activity demands it, my Casio or Suunto will resurface for their better specific functionalities.
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Old 11 December 2008, 06:25 PM   #12
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For the most part I agree. I can understand a collector that has numerous watches may not want to put all his/her watches in a wearing rotation, but I just consider my watches something I wear and scratches, etc are just part of wearing the watch. I probably wear the sub I've had for 20+ years more than anything else, it has traveled the world with me and gone from the tops of ski slopes in CO and peaks of Wyoming mountains elk hunting to the bottom of Truk Lagoon and served me well. As I have said numerous times, this watch could tell some stories, mostly good, some bad.
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Old 11 December 2008, 06:56 PM   #13
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to the bottom of Truk Lagoon and served me well.
You tease...Truk is one place I've always wanted to dive. Great water & WWII history all rolled into one. Someday...
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Old 11 December 2008, 08:39 PM   #14
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So, we have an impass?

There are those who seem to want to baby their expencive time pieces, and those who are content to wear their watches for each and every occasion.

Now, while in the UK, i owned from new a Land Rover discovery. It cost me 40,000quid. The first thing i did to it was to drill bloody great holes in the bonnet to mount a pick and a shovel. The second thing i did to it was to mount a winch on the bumper. This is not normally the first thing that people do to their beloved cars. But my Disco was a tool. It was also the thing that drove me to the supermarket, and to the local pub. It took me out on dates, and carried the most beautiful girl in the world to and from work.

My point being, that just because something costs alot of money does not mean that you shouldnt use it for its intended purpose. The Disco was much better off road at work in the fields than my to LR 90's, consiquently it got used for work, as inherently this is what the Disc was designed for.

Most tool watches are designed to perform a tool job. The sub, goes under water, the GMT tells time zones, the millgauss that is resistant to medium level magnetic fields,the yachtmaster.......well its just blingy really, but you get my point.

Now if someone were to abuse unnessesarily the datejust, or whathaveyou, then i think you have a point. However, were not talking these, were talking the above tool watches. Designed for purpose, worn by the military, and abused since they came out.

I think its great that people can baby them, look after them, and place them on a watch winder at night. I think thats fantastic, and i would here nothing said about collectors. So why are people who do not baby them, and use them as an expencive tool so victimised? Do you also render a mechanic same for his use of Snap On tools, when its obvious that a $4 wrench will surfice? No, but they partly justify your $100 an hour labour bill! Are they any better, well of course they are, just like a sub is so much better than a casio. does that mean a guy cant wear a sub to do work in? No, it means its his choice, right or wrong.

I would love to be able to baby mine, but the truth is, i work hard, and my hard work has brought me an expencive timepiece, that i have saved and sufferd to get and while i dont intentionally dammage it, it is worn 24/7 to tell the time and date on. I dont take it off to weld, or change the oil, or pound fence posts into the ground, but i also dont intentionally place it between the pounder and pounder guide.
I wear it 24/7 to tell the time with.

So, in my mind, there a tool watch, wear em or dont, but dont be so accusational to the other side of the force!! however your personal choices lye.

I dont believe this was a troll thread, i think it was purely conversational. If anything it has become such due to vehment opposition to some peoples choices....... tollerence dear friends, you dont see many threads started papmering for a fight about watch winders!

By the way, a new bonnet/hood for the disco, is about $6000!
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Old 12 December 2008, 12:56 AM   #15
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I've worn mine pretty much every day for the past twenty years. I'll wear it golfing, swimming, skiing etc.. but if I'm working on one of the cars or doing a home renovation thing, no thanks. Like it or not, expensive jewelery that also tells time, and is expensive to fix.



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So, we have an impass?

There are those who seem to want to baby their expencive time pieces, and those who are content to wear their watches for each and every occasion.

Now, while in the UK, i owned from new a Land Rover discovery. It cost me 40,000quid. The first thing i did to it was to drill bloody great holes in the bonnet to mount a pick and a shovel. The second thing i did to it was to mount a winch on the bumper. This is not normally the first thing that people do to their beloved cars. But my Disco was a tool. It was also the thing that drove me to the supermarket, and to the local pub. It took me out on dates, and carried the most beautiful girl in the world to and from work.

My point being, that just because something costs alot of money does not mean that you shouldnt use it for its intended purpose. The Disco was much better off road at work in the fields than my to LR 90's, consiquently it got used for work, as inherently this is what the Disc was designed for.

Most tool watches are designed to perform a tool job. The sub, goes under water, the GMT tells time zones, the millgauss that is resistant to medium level magnetic fields,the yachtmaster.......well its just blingy really, but you get my point.

Now if someone were to abuse unnessesarily the datejust, or whathaveyou, then i think you have a point. However, were not talking these, were talking the above tool watches. Designed for purpose, worn by the military, and abused since they came out.

I think its great that people can baby them, look after them, and place them on a watch winder at night. I think thats fantastic, and i would here nothing said about collectors. So why are people who do not baby them, and use them as an expencive tool so victimised? Do you also render a mechanic same for his use of Snap On tools, when its obvious that a $4 wrench will surfice? No, but they partly justify your $100 an hour labour bill! Are they any better, well of course they are, just like a sub is so much better than a casio. does that mean a guy cant wear a sub to do work in? No, it means its his choice, right or wrong.

I would love to be able to baby mine, but the truth is, i work hard, and my hard work has brought me an expencive timepiece, that i have saved and sufferd to get and while i dont intentionally dammage it, it is worn 24/7 to tell the time and date on. I dont take it off to weld, or change the oil, or pound fence posts into the ground, but i also dont intentionally place it between the pounder and pounder guide.
I wear it 24/7 to tell the time with.

So, in my mind, there a tool watch, wear em or dont, but dont be so accusational to the other side of the force!! however your personal choices lye.

I dont believe this was a troll thread, i think it was purely conversational. If anything it has become such due to vehment opposition to some peoples choices....... tollerence dear friends, you dont see many threads started papmering for a fight about watch winders!

By the way, a new bonnet/hood for the disco, is about $6000!
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Old 12 December 2008, 04:10 PM   #17
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x1 what Steve said.
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Old 11 December 2008, 11:17 PM   #18
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Just a minor ding.

At least the car is being enjoyed by its owner.
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Old 12 December 2008, 04:11 AM   #19
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Just a minor ding.

At least the car is being enjoyed by its owner.
I don't know about you...but I wouldn't call that something I would 'enjoy' doing with my $1M+ car!

Edit: Nevermind...I missed your images at the end...I see you were being just as sarcastic as I was. Cheers.
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Old 12 December 2008, 07:07 AM   #20
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I perosnally think Rolex as a tool watch went bye bye with all the drastic price increases.

According to the tables, a date sub in 1975 was $470. While not chump change at the time, it was more then acceptable to be used as a tool watch (its intended function) based on those prices.

When taking that price into account and apply it to the CPI and you figure what that price is in today's dollars, it's a total of $1891.99. That is in line with many well designed tool watches of today. Yet look at the price of a sub date today. What is it, $6000? That puts it outside of the norm for tool watches and into the realm of luxury watches in my book.

So when did this happen? I'd say around the mid 80's. Take that same sub date as an example. If you adjusted for inflation, that $470 Sub Date in 1975 would have only cost $957.57 in 1986, an increase of 100% yet the price had increased by over 300% to $1575 in 1986.

I've always worn my subs without babying them but if I plan on doing extensive work (such as working in my shop) I put on my $65 G-shock.
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I perosnally think Rolex as a tool watch went bye bye with all the drastic price increases.

According to the tables, a date sub in 1975 was $470. While not chump change at the time, it was more then acceptable to be used as a tool watch (its intended function) based on those prices.

When taking that price into account and apply it to the CPI and you figure what that price is in today's dollars, it's a total of $1891.99. That is in line with many well designed tool watches of today. Yet look at the price of a sub date today. What is it, $6000? That puts it outside of the norm for tool watches and into the realm of luxury watches in my book.

So when did this happen? I'd say around the mid 80's. Take that same sub date as an example. If you adjusted for inflation, that $470 Sub Date in 1975 would have only cost $957.57 in 1986, an increase of 100% yet the price had increased by over 300% to $1575 in 1986.

I've always worn my subs without babying them but if I plan on doing extensive work (such as working in my shop) I put on my $65 G-shock.
All good points. Too often I find we love to classify these watches with '60's verbiage yet don't take into account the modern day price tag. While the watch is obviously just as capable (if not more so) as a tool watch today, you can't ignore the price tag when it comes to its use. It's human nature to take into account the price point of a material object one buys with regard to the owners net worth (strictly speaking money wise).

The multi-millionaire doesn't spend 2 seconds thinking about ordering a $300 bottle of wine with dinner, where as the 'blue-collar' working husband & wife cherish the idea of ordering the same bottle while celebrating on an anniversary dinner.

Is it wrong said husband/wife will savor the wine more than the guy that could buy the bottle with every meal if he wanted to? Obviously not...but lets face it...we're all different both in tastes & bank accounts. Cheers!
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