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Rodrigo082 · 15 October 2018, 11:21 PM

100% sure

R!$ · 16 October 2018, 04:20 AM

It is significantly cheaper to produce SS as opposed to PM watches

tyler1980 · 16 October 2018, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by R!$

It is significantly cheaper to produce SS as opposed to PM watches

there isnt 25k+ of gold in them and they are softer and essier to machine and finish. AD margins are the same percent of RRP but i would think that Rolex makes more on PM than SS from a production cost vs wholesale selling price comparison.

oldman2005 · 16 October 2018, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Pauljf

How likely is it that ADs have hot models in the safe that suddenly are produced should vips/ big spenders come calling?

Sure! That how it works.

airpeace · 16 October 2018, 04:47 AM

possible

RJRJRJ · 16 October 2018, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by tyler1980

there isnt 25k+ of gold in them and they are softer and essier to machine and finish. AD margins are the same percent of RRP but i would think that Rolex makes more on PM than SS from a production cost vs wholesale selling price comparison.

You need separate machines, highly secured areas because of PM, wasted PM, lower production, producing the PM etc.
There definitely isn't anywhere close to the PM as the price suggests, but it is significantly more expensive to make them.

Rolexatlast · 16 October 2018, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by tyler1980

because people who spend a ton of money keep coming back for a reason. A 10k watch is nothing to protect the business relationship of someone who drops six figures a year on non popular, non SS watches.

Who spends six figures a year on watches? Unless you are a dealer....

Silvio_86 · 16 October 2018, 05:29 AM

At an AD here something similar happened... daytonas and gmts appeared in the display window.... then they disappeared and reappeared in the online display of a local grey dealer.... magic of the internet I suppose.

ckaynyc · 16 October 2018, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Rolexatlast

Who spends six figures a year on watches? Unless you are a dealer....

I think you underestimate watch guys. I certainly am not one of them, but they exist.

I can see the reasoning behind holding hot inventory back for the sake of pleasing a larger spender versus making a once in a while buyer happy.

tyler1980 · 16 October 2018, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Rolexatlast

Who spends six figures a year on watches? Unless you are a dealer....

You need to go to Harrods in London. Thats a saturday afternoon for some of these guys.

And its for one watch. Its astonishing and you cannot compete with that. They sell most major brands there too so its a big reason i never bothered building a relationship there. There is so much money floating around London, spending low six figures puts you well back of the most prolific collectors almost everywhere.

ian.thomas · 16 October 2018, 05:52 AM

I was looking at a YG Daytona and asked about an SD42, which they "didn't have in stock." But in so many words was told one would become available if I purchased the YG Daytona.

So yeah, this is reality.

MinMay · 16 October 2018, 05:52 AM

If I own an AD, then I would be selling to my VIP folks as well. Those are the folks I want to keep happy for life.

Blame Rolex HQ...not AD store.

I want a Ferarri at MSRP...but can't.... live moves on....

Uggi · 16 October 2018, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rolexatlast

Who spends six figures a year on watches?

Loads of posters on here.

wrxsti · 16 October 2018, 06:42 AM

the largest Ad is my city has anything you want Daytona C, Pepsi C, blue dial Sky D, Hulk...you just have to buy 3 precious metal watches to get them

mml4 · 16 October 2018, 09:10 AM

No doubt! Especially in the large urban markets.

jezza17 · 16 October 2018, 09:11 PM

Everywhere. Everyday.

Token74 · 16 October 2018, 09:23 PM

Absolutely happens.

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HNIC · 16 October 2018, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rolexatlast

Who spends six figures a year on watches? Unless you are a dealer....

You would be very surprised to know, it happens..... and it’s not that uncommon in the world of watch collecting.

For some it could be one piece. I stick to Rolex and can tell you, 6 figures in one year has happened.

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WBradbury · 16 October 2018, 11:07 PM

I think there has to be a balance between satisfying your loyal customers who are likely to buy multiple watches a year versus new buyers who are getting their first luxury watch.

I am planning on getting my first Rolex next month and have found sourcing the specific model I want to be difficult, even though it's not a sports model.

tyler1980 · 17 October 2018, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by WBradbury

I think there has to be a balance between satisfying your loyal customers who are likely to buy multiple watches a year versus new buyers who are getting their first luxury watch.

I am planning on getting my first Rolex next month and have found sourcing the specific model I want to be difficult, even though it's not a sports model.

you live in the UK... its all difficult

What specifically do you want to buy? Big city AD? Chain? its all a factor

casadecamporolex · 17 October 2018, 12:16 AM

If the watches in high demand are in the display cases, then it implies they are on sale for everyone. Control of who is the buyer is eliminated. That list would include the most important clients of the AD, new and first time buyers and the opportunistic flippers.
By keeping these models in the vaults, control of who it is on sale for becomes simple.
A big city AD probably gets dozens of requests weekly for rare references.
Maybe someday, the marketplace returns to normalcy.
I believe that is unlikely.

adawil2002 · 17 October 2018, 02:00 AM

That's how I bought my DSSD-Blue, White SS Daytona C and BLNR. I have great AD who I communicate with regularly.

16 October 2018, 05:52 AM	#71
ian.thomas 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dallas Posts: 1,365	I was looking at a YG Daytona and asked about an SD42, which they "didn't have in stock." But in so many words was told one would become available if I purchased the YG Daytona. So yeah, this is reality. __________________ You're asking me how a watch works. For now, let’s just keep an eye on the time.

16 October 2018, 06:42 AM	#74
wrxsti "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Earth Posts: 1,695	the largest Ad is my city has anything you want Daytona C, Pepsi C, blue dial Sky D, Hulk...you just have to buy 3 precious metal watches to get them __________________ PP Geneva

16 October 2018, 09:23 PM	#77
Token74 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Vince Location: England Watch: Too many! Posts: 5,744	Absolutely happens. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Time is limited, make every second count. Patek Philippe Nautilus 5990 - AP Royal Oak 15300 - AP Royal Oak 15450 Blue - AP Royal Oak 15450 Silver - AP Royal Oak Offshore 26480 - Royal Oak Offshore 15710 - Rolex Sea Dweller 116600 - Rolex Daytona 116519 - Rolex GMT 126710 BLRO - Omega Speedmaster Reduced - JLC Reverso GMT Moonphase - TAG Microtimer - Dent Pocket Watch - JLC Atmos Phases de lune

17 October 2018, 02:00 AM	#82
adawil2002 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Real Name: Andrew Wilson Location: Brunswick, Maine Watch: 16550 Explorer II Posts: 1,773	That's how I bought my DSSD-Blue, White SS Daytona C and BLNR. I have great AD who I communicate with regularly. Attached Images __________________ 6284 SS, 16014 SS Jubilee silver stick, 16253 TT Blue Thunderbird, 16550 SS Exp II Cream, bought in 1986, 116400GV Z-blue Milgauss, 79260 Tudor, 116660 DSSD-Blue, 116500LV Daytona White, 116710 BLNR, 326934 Blue Skydweller

15 October 2018, 11:21 PM	#61
Rodrigo082 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Germany Posts: 616	100% sure

16 October 2018, 04:20 AM	#62
R!$ Banned Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,405	It is significantly cheaper to produce SS as opposed to PM watches

16 October 2018, 04:47 AM	#65
airpeace Banned Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Phila Posts: 393	possible

16 October 2018, 05:29 AM	#68
Silvio_86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Milan Posts: 141	At an AD here something similar happened... daytonas and gmts appeared in the display window.... then they disappeared and reappeared in the online display of a local grey dealer.... magic of the internet I suppose.

16 October 2018, 05:52 AM	#72
MinMay Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: United States Posts: 2,410	If I own an AD, then I would be selling to my VIP folks as well. Those are the folks I want to keep happy for life. Blame Rolex HQ...not AD store. I want a Ferarri at MSRP...but can't.... live moves on....

16 October 2018, 09:10 AM	#75
mml4 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: USA Posts: 451	No doubt! Especially in the large urban markets.

16 October 2018, 09:11 PM	#76
jezza17 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Alex Location: Sydney, Australia Watch: DRSD Posts: 511	Everywhere. Everyday.

16 October 2018, 11:07 PM	#79
WBradbury "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Real Name: Walter Location: UK Posts: 13	I think there has to be a balance between satisfying your loyal customers who are likely to buy multiple watches a year versus new buyers who are getting their first luxury watch. I am planning on getting my first Rolex next month and have found sourcing the specific model I want to be difficult, even though it's not a sports model.

17 October 2018, 12:16 AM	#81
casadecamporolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Louie Location: CDC/FCGC Watch: 116619LB Posts: 1,329	If the watches in high demand are in the display cases, then it implies they are on sale for everyone. Control of who is the buyer is eliminated. That list would include the most important clients of the AD, new and first time buyers and the opportunistic flippers. By keeping these models in the vaults, control of who it is on sale for becomes simple. A big city AD probably gets dozens of requests weekly for rare references. Maybe someday, the marketplace returns to normalcy. I believe that is unlikely.

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