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Old 9 January 2019, 03:07 AM   #61
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They are getting the call and passing how is that for lack of interest. He passed on a 9K watch being able to turn it into 12k instantly and he didn´t even let us know who the AD is so one of us could benefit. The gold advice of not pay MSRP they are not that hard to get is astounding.

First off, telling you the AD would of done you no good. They won't deal with a phone call. If you call and ask they will completely blow you off as they play by the rules and deal with people in town.

Secondly, Flippers are everything that is wrong with watch collecting at the moment. The point of the post was to try to encourage people to avoid paying 12K. I would be quite a hypocrite if I bought a watch just to flip it now wouldn't I. Also, if 3k is that big a deal to you, you should really think before spending 9k on a luxury good that is 100% an emotional purpose.

thirdly: I may have overestimated my ease of acquirance with everyone else's. I waited 18 months for a daytona vs. 4 weeks for a blnr being offered. My logic was, hey, doesn't seem that hard. But reading through the comments think I just got lucky with good timing. But I stand by some of my remarks above. My AD knows I don't flip, so I think that helps. But sorry to anyone struggling to get one that I came across flippant to.

fourthly: Don't need to be scolded and called a liar by someone who just joined on here when watches got hot.
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Old 9 January 2019, 03:11 AM   #62
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Yep. Lots of pent up anger here from people who are having trouble getting their grail. They assume no one can which simply is not the case.
As far as mentioning dealer names you can find mine if you look for it but I use it sparingly. I have a good relationship with three dealers, that doesn't mean you'll be treated the same with a cold call. What's the point of wasting their time with a bunch of random phone calls.
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Old 9 January 2019, 03:26 AM   #63
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My AD said his list is 50 people. I am still waiting...
I couldnt' even get on the list in DC metro area. I had to go the gray route.
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Old 9 January 2019, 03:30 AM   #64
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I remember being slightly uneasy in 2015 when I paid MSRP for my BLNR at a Rolex Boutique. Can’t imagine paying $12k+ now for BNIB. I wonder how much longer this SS Rolex frenzy will continue - I imagine it will last a while. I miss the days when I could walk into an AD and actually see SS models in the display case . . .
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Old 9 January 2019, 03:48 AM   #65
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Haha, I check off a lot of the boxes except I'm not good at networking or making things happen. It's just not my thing. I've purchased 6 watches including PM but I can't get a 116500, BLNR, BLRO, CHNR, or LVC. Another member got a BLNR and BLRO with no sales history from same AD. I don't even bother asking my SA about it because I can't deal with the BS.



I'll pay a premium if/when I get tired of waiting.


Sounds to me like they know you will keep buying without them giving you the good stuff. 6 watches including a PM and not being able to get even one of the watches you listed is poor form on the AD’s part. The hard part is you don’t want to walk away because you already have a significant history with that dealer. That’s a tough spot. Best of luck, hope something comes soon for ya.


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Old 9 January 2019, 03:48 AM   #66
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please post screenshot! BLNR still featured on Rolex website.
It’s removed from the Bucherer & Tourneau website
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Old 9 January 2019, 03:51 AM   #67
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Flippers are a serious problem, and AD's are part of the problem and solution. Check out how many Omega Ultraman watches are on Chrono24 for well over the MSRP/RRP. Omega sold them online as opposed to selling them through ADs, which likely might have cut out quite a few flippers.
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Old 9 January 2019, 03:54 AM   #68
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It took me 11months to get my BLNR but they now respect me have called me past two months on shipments offered me SD4k SD CHNR White Ss Sky D. I also bought 3 Rolex’s from them in 2018.
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Old 9 January 2019, 04:06 AM   #69
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please post screenshot! BLNR still featured on Rolex website.


Sent you Bucherers mail via private message. Besides that - as mentioned above - Bucherer removed the BLNR from their website.
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Old 9 January 2019, 04:09 AM   #70
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Sounds to me like they know you will keep buying without them giving you the good stuff. 6 watches including a PM and not being able to get even one of the watches you listed is poor form on the AD’s part. The hard part is you don’t want to walk away because you already have a significant history with that dealer. That’s a tough spot. Best of luck, hope something comes soon for ya.


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Thanks. I don't even stress about it. If they call me, great. They gave me the whole spiel on how management decides who gets called and this and that. Even when I bought the 116519 I asked them if it will get me in position for one of the hard to get models and they said it won't make much of a difference because there are clients that have spent so much more than me. My SA told their manager that they are going to lose me as a client if they don't find something nice for me and still nothing. Maybe all BS, who knows? And there is only Barron and Leeds and Ben Bridge here so not much choice. And with the amount of Rolex hungry tourists we get here everything gets sold. I was told that people come in looking to leave with a Rolex, any Rolex. The point being that even PM sells quickly. Supposedly, the WG OF Daytona that I bought was only the second one they received in 2018, and the YG ones don't last more than a day or two in the case.

The most recent watches that I picked up were through trades with TS here. And of course then next time I walk into my AD with these new pieces they will be disappointed that I went elsewhere. It's all so silly.
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Old 9 January 2019, 04:54 AM   #71
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First off, telling you the AD would of done you no good. They won't deal with a phone call. If you call and ask they will completely blow you off as they play by the rules and deal with people in town.

Secondly, Flippers are everything that is wrong with watch collecting at the moment. The point of the post was to try to encourage people to avoid paying 12K. I would be quite a hypocrite if I bought a watch just to flip it now wouldn't I. Also, if 3k is that big a deal to you, you should really think before spending 9k on a luxury good that is 100% an emotional purpose.

thirdly: I may have overestimated my ease of acquirance with everyone else's. I waited 18 months for a daytona vs. 4 weeks for a blnr being offered. My logic was, hey, doesn't seem that hard. But reading through the comments think I just got lucky with good timing. But I stand by some of my remarks above. My AD knows I don't flip, so I think that helps. But sorry to anyone struggling to get one that I came across flippant to.

fourthly: Don't need to be scolded and called a liar by someone who just joined on here when watches got hot.
Someone else doubted you, and I continue to doubt you. Some things are giving you away. So you ordered a Batman only four weeks ago and got the call in record time. You then declined because it is the Pepsi the one you really want. So after the pepsi was released in March it took you seven months and a call from the AD to decide you really wanted the pepsi. It sounds as if the absence of calls is what really drives you to the watch you want. And it seems this AD placed you first in the list or did not have any other interest besides yours.

It seems that you should be the one thinking of why to buy one of these watches.
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Old 9 January 2019, 04:58 AM   #72
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I think your issue is that you're in Honolulu. If the AD throws a desirable watch in the display a wealthy tourist will buy it within 24 hours. It's why it is a joke to try to buy a Rolex in Las Vegas. Too much foot traffic, and most of them have money.
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Old 9 January 2019, 05:22 AM   #73
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I think your issue is that you're in Honolulu. If the AD throws a desirable watch in the display a wealthy tourist will buy it within 24 hours. It's why it is a joke to try to buy a Rolex in Las Vegas. Too much foot traffic, and most of them have money.
Yes, you're totally on point. That's why more than half my collection was purchased through TS.

Once at the B&L in Waikiki I witnessed a young Japanese couple ask for a pair, and when they were asked what kind of pair, (I speak Japanese), I overheard them say, "it doesn't matter, we just want a pair". I didn't stick around long enough to see if they actually bought anything, but the SA I was talking to said that sometimes he feels like he has the easiest job in the world.
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Old 9 January 2019, 05:41 AM   #74
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Someone else doubted you, and I continue to doubt you. Some things are giving you away. So you ordered a Batman only four weeks ago and got the call in record time. You then declined because it is the Pepsi the one you really want. So after the pepsi was released in March it took you seven months and a call from the AD to decide you really wanted the pepsi. It sounds as if the absence of calls is what really drives you to the watch you want. And it seems this AD placed you first in the list or did not have any other interest besides yours.

It seems that you should be the one thinking of why to buy one of these watches.
Yeah, not how it happened. You're making a lot of assumptions about me based on your anger. I'm sorry you feel this way, but this conversation is done. I'm sorry for your anger. Life is short, be happy.
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Old 9 January 2019, 05:42 AM   #75
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Yes, you're totally on point. That's why more than half my collection was purchased through TS.

Once at the B&L in Waikiki I witnessed a young Japanese couple ask for a pair, and when they were asked what kind of pair, (I speak Japanese), I overheard them say, "it doesn't matter, we just want a pair". I didn't stick around long enough to see if they actually bought anything, but the SA I was talking to said that sometimes he feels like he has the easiest job in the world.
I've commented on this to people at work. Could you imagine having a sales job where people are begging you to let them spend $10,000? A sales job where you could throw a coveted watch in the case and then make a bet with your colleagues about how many hours it'll sit before getting snagged up by a hungry passerby?

It's insane.
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Old 9 January 2019, 05:47 AM   #76
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I've commented on this to people at work. Could you imagine having a sales job where people are begging you to let them spend $10,000? A sales job where you could throw a coveted watch in the case and then make a bet with your colleagues about how many hours it'll sit before getting snagged up by a hungry passerby?



It's insane.


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Old 9 January 2019, 07:00 AM   #77
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I called a few AD’s 6 months ago and two of them told me they could put aside a BLNR for me. I picked it up a few days after I called. The prices they are selling for now are just ridiculous and no offence to other BLNR owners, totally not worth it.
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Old 9 January 2019, 07:43 AM   #78
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I think your issue is that you're in Honolulu. If the AD throws a desirable watch in the display a wealthy tourist will buy it within 24 hours. It's why it is a joke to try to buy a Rolex in Las Vegas. Too much foot traffic, and most of them have money.
Agreed on that. It's frustrating that we only have 2 ADs on the island. But it's funny to hear them diss each other.

The SA I talked to at Ben Bridge mentioned "other merchants" would sell you a highly sought SS piece only if you also bought other watches with along it. Being that the only other AD in town is B&L, I'm quite sure he was talking specifically about them. He also spelled out the bundling game B&L is playing, without actually saying the word bundling.

I'm not happy with the bundling game, but I understand why they would do it, seeing as how most of their clientele would never be repeat customers. Mostly tourist traffic. Gotta get every dollar they can from what will likely be that customer's one and only visit to that store.
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Old 9 January 2019, 08:00 AM   #79
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Agreed on that. It's frustrating that we only have 2 ADs on the island. But it's funny to hear them diss each other.



The SA I talked to at Ben Bridge mentioned "other merchants" would sell you a highly sought SS piece only if you also bought other watches with along it. Being that the only other AD in town is B&L, I'm quite sure he was talking specifically about them. He also spelled out the bundling game B&L is playing, without actually saying the word bundling.



I'm not happy with the bundling game, but I understand why they would do it, seeing as how most of their clientele would never be repeat customers. Mostly tourist traffic. Gotta get every dollar they can from what will likely be that customer's one and only visit to that store.


I don’t know if you would count a Sub C as a sought out reference, but I was offered one and a Sub date but I declined both. I haven’t been offered anything since. I actually suggested a bundle with a PM Daytona and they told me they can’t even get a PM Daytona.
I eventually purchased my WG OF from BB and no opportunity to bundle there either. I honestly don’t expect anything from any of these guys. They know what’s on my radar and I keep getting offered explorers and subs. So I rather go to a TS. When you consider no tax it comes out close to retail unless we’re talking Daytona or BLRO.


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Old 9 January 2019, 08:04 AM   #80
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Depends on the AD and your location! Some might get lucky but typically it’s not an easy watch to get.
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Old 9 January 2019, 08:13 AM   #81
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I don’t know if you would count a Sub C as a sought out reference, but I was offered one and a Sub date but I declined both. I haven’t been offered anything since. I actually suggested a bundle with a PM Daytona and they told me they can’t even get a PM Daytona.
I eventually purchased my WG OF from BB and no opportunity to bundle there either. I honestly don’t expect anything from any of these guys. They know what’s on my radar and I keep getting offered explorers and subs. So I rather go to a TS. When you consider no tax it comes out close to retail unless we’re talking Daytona or BLRO.


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BB said they could get me an LN sub or GMT in about 6 months, no other purchases required (this was back in October). I was looking for a BLNR at the time, so I didn't pursue it. For a BLNR, he said he wouldn't take my name without a prior buying history. Fair enough.

Like you, I went TS. There isn't much of a choice but to do so on this rock. I was lucky because I got my BLNR before the gray prices went nuts. I paid not much more than I would have at MSRP + tax.
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Old 9 January 2019, 08:21 AM   #82
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BB said they could get me an LN sub or GMT in about 6 months, no other purchases required (this was back in October). I was looking for a BLNR at the time, so I didn't pursue it. For a BLNR, he said he wouldn't take my name without a prior buying history. Fair enough.



Like you, I went TS. There isn't much of a choice but to do so on this rock. I was lucky because I got my BLNR before the gray prices went nuts. I paid not much more than I would have at MSRP + tax.


Nice! I’ve only seen it in person once, and it’s a beauty.


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Sent you Bucherers mail via private message. Besides that - as mentioned above - Bucherer removed the BLNR from their website.
on both sites the 116710LN is also removed....
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Old 9 January 2019, 12:25 PM   #85
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Even this is pretty incredible.


I got quoted 30 months by my AD give or take 6 months


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Old 9 January 2019, 02:47 PM   #87
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Not interested in either frankly (BLNR or BLRO). The maxi case ruins them for me.
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Old 9 January 2019, 02:50 PM   #88
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Good news. Congrats bro!!!

I am in Australia and now there are very few chances to get one, due to the population here and very limited stock...

I am not a super VIP but have bought enough other watches to get 2 subs (lv and ln) from one shop within 12 months.
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BLNR Wait

I never owned a watch before. Shucks. Someone told me Rolex steel were hard to get, so I walked in off the street and the dealer ran to me with three watches on a silver platter - 1st was a white face Watch with all these subdials and pushers (super busy looking) with black shiny thing around it, 2nd was same but with black face and this other 3rd one with black face, funky red little hand and funny blue and red circle around the outside.

I told them I only wanted a gold and silver dress watch, so I was gonna buy that one, but decided I’d wait.

I don’t know why everyone is up in arms. These things are super easy to buy. They nearly attached me at the door with what they said were popular models. I think they said something about 25% discount and no tax on the silver ones.


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Old 9 January 2019, 05:33 PM   #90
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Update: regretted not picking the last one up so called back and begged to be on the list again in November. AD called today with the new one. Wife picked up for me and will be my solstice present. AD heard nothing about discontinued when I talked to them on Monday. Rolex guy there said he saw all the online stuff and doesn’t believe it. I’m very very lucky with my AD I guess, but I’d wait to hear something for sure before u drop 13k on a Preowned blnr based on a rumor.
Pix or it didn’t happen. Funny how someone get back to back BLNR within a month of waiting and others has been waiting for a year. While people have no relationship with AD prolly less than 10% chance of getting one.
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