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Frakis · 30 December 2019, 11:14 AM

Just curious if all P-serial white dial 116520 will turn cream/Panna? Any cases, where P-serials down turn?

Also, is it the UV rays that change the color of the dial?

bokbok · 30 December 2019, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frakis

Just curious if all P-serial white dial 116520 will turn cream/Panna? Any cases, where P-serials down turn?

Also, is it the UV rays that change the color of the dial?

Its Daytona from 2000 to 2004 Rolex notice the problem buy apparently back then you can get the dial swapped for free or if your watch went in for service they would swap it. So plenty will have the dials changed.
But now folk like them as it's a good defect

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Anton911 · 30 December 2019, 09:21 PM

As a result of the dials changing colour in the early series ,conversely there are less all white dial models in the P series now so equally collectible.Something to consider also.

Frakis · 31 December 2019, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Anton911

I purchased a P serial number 116520 white face Daytona used in Thailand from a dealer I had bought from two years ago for £7800.
It is only now I am realising what a bargain that was as I took a week to decide to buy it.
I was not aware at the time about these dials as this particular watch has a beautiful creamy off white colour dial.
A very lucky purchase being in the right place at the right time.
Would not part with this watch ever !

Post some pictures of your cream dial.

Wiener48 · 1 January 2020, 02:25 AM

Yes please, thanks

Frakis · 1 January 2020, 07:00 AM

Great thread OP! Here is my P-serial, safe queen, NOS with stickers, and comes as a complete set including the original sales receipt.

Frakis · 4 January 2020, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Anton911

Wow these prices are incredible however a rare and very beautiful watch!

I hope people keep posting info and pics on this extremely interesting watch.

Perhaps we need a Daytona cream dial owners thread.

I made a Daytona “panna” cream dial owners thread:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=717390

Owners, let’s update the above thread. Show off those beautiful cream dials!

Wiener48 · 29 June 2020, 08:06 PM

The next cream dial is coming to auction

Ref. 116520
A fine and rare stainless steel chronograph wristwatch with "cream" dial, bracelet, guarantee and box

Estimate
HK$150,000 - 250,000
€17,200-28,600
$19,200-32,100

https://www.phillips.com/detail/rolex/HK080120/1053

fmc000 · 29 June 2020, 08:58 PM

Looks horrible IMHO.

faimag · 29 June 2020, 09:07 PM

Dunno. I actually like the pure white color better on the Daytona.

1665fan · 29 June 2020, 09:13 PM

If the aph sold for 35k that panna should sell for more

Wiener48 · 29 June 2020, 09:17 PM

Totaly agree!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1665fan

If the aph sold for 35k that panna should sell for more

fmc000 · 29 June 2020, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1665fan

If the aph sold for 35k that panna should sell for more

No doubt about it.

Onequik135i · 30 June 2020, 03:02 AM

Wow! Even a APH model sold at $35k, that’s crazy.

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TellingTime · 30 June 2020, 03:19 AM

The Daytona cream/panna is a very collectable watch. It is the white dial counterpart of the black Patrizzi dial. It may eventually equal or surpass the Daytona Patrizzi. IMO

Wiener48 · 30 June 2020, 03:38 AM

Many still don’t know what a Panna/Cream Dial is, so there is hugh potential for the baby

RJRJRJ · 30 June 2020, 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiener48

The next cream dial is coming to auction

Ref. 116520
A fine and rare stainless steel chronograph wristwatch with "cream" dial, bracelet, guarantee and box

Estimate
HK$150,000 - 250,000
€17,200-28,600
$19,200-32,100

https://www.phillips.com/detail/rolex/HK080120/1053

This is a very interesting one that I suspect will go for well over the estimate.

Onikage · 30 June 2020, 04:20 AM

My dealer showed me one of these a few years back. Very interesting. Most comprehensive read I've had on them.

Onequik135i · 30 June 2020, 05:40 AM

I thought I read somewhere that there are some falsified Panna dial watches out there if I’m not mistaken. If so proceed w caution.

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TemporalTimepieces · 30 June 2020, 05:43 AM

wow. looks amazing!

doubleinfive · 30 June 2020, 07:04 AM

I bought a K-serial 116520 in Portland a couple of years ago and I had no idea of the blemish. I noticed that the dial was not super white as I expected and when compared to my 16750 Polar, I could certainly spot the disparity. The dealer I bought it from didn't have a clue that it may one day be a sought after piece. I have no intention of selling or auctioning it off but I am pleased to have stumbled upon it. Right place, right time, right watch.

Recently, I bought a 1991 N-serial 14270 with what watch geeks refer to as a frozen dial. Once again, right place, right time, lightning strikes twice kinda thing...

Wiener48 · 30 June 2020, 07:38 AM

So, the Hong Kong Cream dial Daytona - where will it end hammered?

My guess, close to 40t $

Londonrolex · 30 June 2020, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TurboWatch

This is where newbies get taken. The watch has the TT (116523), or Gold (116528) dial.

Not cool at all!

Study first before you BUY.

What makes you think that dial came off another watch?

Nixshah · 30 June 2020, 09:56 AM

Maybe one day my white dial DaytonaC will turn that beautiful ivory color. These are gorgeous.

Onequik135i · 30 June 2020, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doubleinfive

I bought a K-serial 116520 in Portland a couple of years ago and I had no idea of the blemish. I noticed that the dial was not super white as I expected and when compared to my 16750 Polar, I could certainly spot the disparity. The dealer I bought it from didn't have a clue that it may one day be a sought after piece. I have no intention of selling or auctioning it off but I am pleased to have stumbled upon it. Right place, right time, right watch.

Recently, I bought a 1991 N-serial 14270 with what watch geeks refer to as a frozen dial. Once again, right place, right time, lightning strikes twice kinda thing...

Post up a pic of that beauty.

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mdtddd2007 · 30 June 2020, 12:53 PM

Both special in my collection. Given the choice. Would have to be Cream thin hands. Shorter run.

1665fan · 30 June 2020, 01:00 PM

Cream for the WIN! Aph came in both dial colors and aloe more produced....

Londonrolex · 30 June 2020, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboWatch

This is where newbies get taken. The watch has the TT (116523), or Gold (116528) dial.

Not cool at all!

Study first before you BUY.

I think it’s you that needs to study first!

Wiener48 · 4 July 2020, 06:12 AM

Next Panna/Cream at auction

https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auct...nce-116520-a-2

Wiener48 · 10 July 2020, 05:33 PM

Auction is running...

https://www.phillips.com/auctions/au...makers%3DRolex

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiener48

Next Panna/Cream at auction

https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auct...nce-116520-a-2

30 December 2019, 11:14 AM	#61
Frakis 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: USA Posts: 2,940	Just curious if all P-serial white dial 116520 will turn cream/Panna? Any cases, where P-serials down turn? Also, is it the UV rays that change the color of the dial? __________________ Two Factor Authentication Enabled On My Account.

1 January 2020, 07:00 AM	#66
Frakis 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: USA Posts: 2,940	Great thread OP! Here is my P-serial, safe queen, NOS with stickers, and comes as a complete set including the original sales receipt. __________________ Two Factor Authentication Enabled On My Account.

30 June 2020, 03:02 AM	#74
Onequik135i "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tampa, Florida Watch: 116610LV Posts: 2,573	Wow! Even a APH model sold at $35k, that’s crazy. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 16750 / 116610LV / 116613LB / Ed White 321 / PAM111 / PAM170

30 June 2020, 04:20 AM	#78
Onikage "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: England Watch: 16710, 16628 Posts: 7,757	My dealer showed me one of these a few years back. Very interesting. Most comprehensive read I've had on them. __________________ GMT II 16710 TRADITIONAL ( D- Serial #) ROLEXFANBOY P-Club Member #4

30 June 2020, 05:40 AM	#79
Onequik135i "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tampa, Florida Watch: 116610LV Posts: 2,573	I thought I read somewhere that there are some falsified Panna dial watches out there if I’m not mistaken. If so proceed w caution. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 16750 / 116610LV / 116613LB / Ed White 321 / PAM111 / PAM170

30 December 2019, 09:21 PM	#63
Anton911 Banned Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Uk Watch: Daytona,hulk Posts: 302	As a result of the dials changing colour in the early series ,conversely there are less all white dial models in the P series now so equally collectible.Something to consider also.

1 January 2020, 02:25 AM	#65
Wiener48 Banned Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Vienna Posts: 1,299	Yes please, thanks

29 June 2020, 08:06 PM	#68
Wiener48 Banned Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Vienna Posts: 1,299	The next cream dial is coming to auction Ref. 116520 A fine and rare stainless steel chronograph wristwatch with "cream" dial, bracelet, guarantee and box Estimate HK$150,000 - 250,000 €17,200-28,600 $19,200-32,100 https://www.phillips.com/detail/rolex/HK080120/1053

29 June 2020, 08:58 PM	#69
fmc000 Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Fabio Location: Como - Italy Posts: 4,811	Looks horrible IMHO.

29 June 2020, 09:07 PM	#70
faimag "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: US, SG, DK, GR Watch: Reverso Posts: 3,089	Dunno. I actually like the pure white color better on the Daytona.

29 June 2020, 09:13 PM	#71
1665fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: East coast Posts: 6,660	If the aph sold for 35k that panna should sell for more

30 June 2020, 03:19 AM	#75
TellingTime Banned Join Date: May 2020 Location: Over here Posts: 143	The Daytona cream/panna is a very collectable watch. It is the white dial counterpart of the black Patrizzi dial. It may eventually equal or surpass the Daytona Patrizzi. IMO

30 June 2020, 03:38 AM	#76
Wiener48 Banned Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Vienna Posts: 1,299	Many still don’t know what a Panna/Cream Dial is, so there is hugh potential for the baby

30 June 2020, 05:43 AM	#80
TemporalTimepieces "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: New York, NY Posts: 32	wow. looks amazing!

30 June 2020, 07:04 AM	#81
doubleinfive "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: CA Posts: 655	I bought a K-serial 116520 in Portland a couple of years ago and I had no idea of the blemish. I noticed that the dial was not super white as I expected and when compared to my 16750 Polar, I could certainly spot the disparity. The dealer I bought it from didn't have a clue that it may one day be a sought after piece. I have no intention of selling or auctioning it off but I am pleased to have stumbled upon it. Right place, right time, right watch. Recently, I bought a 1991 N-serial 14270 with what watch geeks refer to as a frozen dial. Once again, right place, right time, lightning strikes twice kinda thing...

30 June 2020, 07:38 AM	#82
Wiener48 Banned Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Vienna Posts: 1,299	So, the Hong Kong Cream dial Daytona - where will it end hammered? My guess, close to 40t $

30 June 2020, 09:56 AM	#84
Nixshah "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 248	Maybe one day my white dial DaytonaC will turn that beautiful ivory color. These are gorgeous.

30 June 2020, 12:53 PM	#86
mdtddd2007 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: U.S Watch: Rolex, PP, AP, GS Posts: 5,785	Both special in my collection. Given the choice. Would have to be Cream thin hands. Shorter run. Attached Images

30 June 2020, 01:00 PM	#87
1665fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: East coast Posts: 6,660	Cream for the WIN! Aph came in both dial colors and aloe more produced....

4 July 2020, 06:12 AM	#89
Wiener48 Banned Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Vienna Posts: 1,299	Next Panna/Cream at auction https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auct...nce-116520-a-2

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