Stupid Things People Say

[LandWatch]

Originally Posted by Jocke

To be honest.

Agree!

[Boothroyd]

So many to pick from, but on the internet, it seems "lose" and "loose" are very often confused.

[Moggo]

Originally Posted by HighlandWatch

And don’t forget the please!

Haha, true


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[piratfisk]

This is one of my favorite threads. I really enjoy linguistics, vernacular & phraseology.

In no particular order:

1- When ordering something "lemme get a..." instead of "may I have"

2- Saying "literally" when things are not literal, as in "my heart is literally gonna explode"

3- When "management" addresses people & the "bosses" are agreeing with each other in a mutual stroke-fest: "Just to piggyback off of what he/she said..."

4- New phrases like "it's lit/litty," "ayyy," "bruh," "I'm dead," & "aight bet"

5- "Be careful" after I've already tripped/hit my head. I got into an argument with the wife over this. I lost because she's nice & genuinely cares about my well-being.

6- "It is what it is." This is such a cop-out phrase said by people who resign themselves with being unwilling to try to change anything.

There are many, many more. This is what I can think of now.

[Beckster]

On this forum:

I want to buy a Daytona at MSRP from an AD with no purchase history right now. Can somebody help me. :))

[Blansky]

Originally Posted by piratfisk

This is one of my favorite threads. I really enjoy linguistics, vernacular & phraseology.

I grew up in Canada and the linguistic structure of sentences often ended in the style of encouraging a response of raising the end of the sentence to a higher note. Linguistically a statement ends in a neutral tone the same as the previous words, but when you are being conversational and requesting a response you often take the tone higher. In the Canadian form it became "eh". The typical "is that right eh?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmr5OmbMvCk

I see often in some Brit TV and Australian TV they end in "yeah" in a raised tone, requesting a response.

When I moved to the US and California in the 80s I dropped using eh, and it changed the structure of how I spoke and so I became interested in why and how it's a structure of language.

[piratfisk]

Originally Posted by Blansky

I grew up in Canada and the linguistic structure of sentences often ended in the style of encouraging a response of raising the end of the sentence to a higher note. Linguistically a statement ends in a neutral tone the same as the previous words, but when you are being conversational and requesting a response you often take the tone higher. In the Canadian form it became "eh". The typical "is that right eh?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmr5OmbMvCk

I see often in some Brit TV and Australian TV they end in "yeah" in a raised tone, requesting a response.

It's a way of asking "do you agree" without so many words. Man, words are fascinating. Etymology is also interesting to me.

[rudestew]

“Let's touch base”

[swils8610]

If it’s meant to be it’s meant to be...

Let me be frank with you...

Do you want me to tell you the truth? No lie to me instead it’s more amusing...


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[Blansky]

Originally Posted by piratfisk

Etymology is also interesting to me.

The Brit pub-speak practice of taking a word, putting a cute definition with it and then replacing the original word with that definition and stringing them together is fascinating.

I can't do it but I've heard the word "wife" and that is replaced with "trouble and strife" then everytime in the sentence you use trouble and strife instead of wife and then string that with a bunch of other words done the same and soon only your pub buddies can understand what you're saying.

In black culture there a dozens of words that were changed. Just an example is the word car. Instead of car you said "ride". So instead of nice car, you say nice ride.

[timedate]

Originally Posted by Blansky

The Brit pub-speak practice of taking a work, putting a cute definition with it and then replacing the original word with that definition and stringing them together is fascinating.

I can't do it but I've heard the word "wife" and that is replaced with "trouble and strive" then everytime in the sentence you use trouble and strife instead of wife and then string that with a bunch of other words done the same and soon only your pub buddies can understand what you're saying.

In black culture there a dozens of words that were changed. Just an example is the word car. Instead of car you said "ride". So instead of nice car, you say nice ride.

its known as cockney rhyming slang, a cockney being someone that is born in east london within the sound of the bow bells, bow being a place in east london, bells being the church of bow


example

describing your feet as 'your plates of meat' it can get irritating but its funny when you hear a cockney saying it.

[piratfisk]

Originally Posted by Blansky

The Brit pub-speak practice of taking a work, putting a cute definition with it and then replacing the original word with that definition and stringing them together is fascinating.

I can't do it but I've heard the word "wife" and that is replaced with "trouble and strive" then everytime in the sentence you use trouble and strife instead of wife and then string that with a bunch of other words done the same and soon only your pub buddies can understand what you're saying.

In black culture there a dozens of words that were changed. Just an example is the word car. Instead of car you said "ride". So instead of nice car, you say nice ride.

Ah, Cockney rhyming slang! As a non-Cockney, it's almost a foreign language to me. English is my first language & CRS is fascinating. It's like its own, little "club" where if you aren't meant to know it, you'll forever be an outsider.

[joeychitwood]

YOLO, BOGO, AF, lit and hashtag. And pretty much EVERY opinion on Twitter.

[piratfisk]

This thread might quickly become a venue for old men to complain about "the youths." As a 31yo, I often feel like I'm old & I love complaining. I'm all for it

[Zakalwe]

Sporting one: “skill-set” as in “Tiger Woods always had the skill-set to win multiple Major Championships.”

There’s a perfectly good English word for this. Skills.

I’m irrationally annoyed by this.

[AzPaul]

Many of these are fine examples, but they'd be given more weight IF YOU'D USE ALL CAPITALS WHEN YOU WRITE THEM. AND OH YEAH, EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!! SEVERAL OF THEM WHENEVER POSSIBLE!!!!!

[timedate]

calling a financial service like a loan or a mortgage a 'product'

[Blansky]

Originally Posted by piratfisk

Ah, Cockney rhyming slang! As a non-Cockney, it's almost a foreign language to me. English is my first language & CRS is fascinating. It's like its own, little "club" where if you aren't meant to know it, you'll forever be an outsider.

I'm guessing the "club" is something like corporate-speak and occupational-speak and religion-speak where particular groups to self identify, and to differentiate themselves from "outsiders" basically develop their own language and identity.

Both the black slang and Cockney slang seemed to be from people who were sort of shunned in mainstream or upperclass life so they said screw you and developed their own "club".

Interestingly in the US, black slang would be a black thing, but soon young whites picked it up to be cool and over a short period of time, it becomes mainstream language.

[swils8610]

Omg, lol, bff, lmao, wtf...


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[1675-David]

"Time please gentlemen" the most heinous phrase on the planet

[piratfisk]

Originally Posted by Blansky

I'm guessing the "club" is something like corporate-speak and occupational-speak and religion-speak where particular groups to self identify, and to differentiate themselves from "outsiders" basically develop their own language and identity.

Both the black slang and Cockney slang seemed to be from people who were sort of shunned in mainstream or upperclass life so they said screw you and developed their own "club".

Interestingly in the US, black slang would be a black thing, but soon young whites pick it up to be cool and over a short period of time, it becomes mainstream language.

I think jargon, which is what you're referring to, is different than CRS or phrases loaned to mainstream English through media & pop culture. "Black slang," and I think we're tip-toeing into murky waters in terms of what is PC & what isn't, decidedly became a non "black thing" when hip-hop culture began its existence. Prior to the jazz era, there was a massive rift in the lexicons of white & black America. Jazz paved the way for hip-hop culture to reach audiences outside of black communities. The culture, including its phrases, made its way from the inner sanctums of black communities into the ears of the world. It's a bit of a gentrification of words, I think for the better.

On another train of thought, there is definitely a lifespan for pop culture, including words & phrases. I hope that I won't have to hear "a'ight, bet" in 5 years. That phrase irks me to no end.

[timedate]

jamaicans can speak in a 'patois' its like a jumbled up form of communicating

[037]

Originally Posted by swils8610

Omg, lol, bff, lmao, wtf...

Translation: You're hilariously shocked by what your best friend just did and can't believe your eyes at what just happened, yet are laughing your ass off at the whole event.

The short version isn't so bad.

[Blansky]

Originally Posted by piratfisk

I think jargon, which is what you're referring to, is different than CRS or phrases loaned to mainstream English through media & pop culture. "Black slang," and I think we're tip-toeing into murky waters in terms of what is PC & what isn't, decidedly became a non "black thing" when hip-hop culture began its existence. Prior to the jazz era, there was a massive rift in the lexicons of white & black America. Jazz paved the way for hip-hop culture to reach audiences outside of black communities. The culture, including its phrases, made its way from the inner sanctums of black communities into the ears of the world. It's a bit of a gentrification of words, I think for the better.

On another train of thought, there is definitely a lifespan for pop culture, including words & phrases. I hope that I won't have to hear "a'ight, bet" in 5 years. That phrase irks me to no end.

I think your timeline is a bit off due to your age but black slang slid into white culture before hip-hop since hip-hop is pretty new. The blending of black culture and black slang migration probably was a music thing and Elvis was probably the most famous for playing "black music" although there were others before him, and even the Beatles were fascinated by black music as adolescents from people like Lonnie Donnegan and his skiffle music which was called Rockabilly in the US. They were also fascinated by southern blues and as blacks migrated north to places like Chicago and NY and bringing and developing their blues musical styles with them. And with the music came the slang.

Being that the music was cool, I think the black slang was sliding into the language in the 1950s at least and through the Beats or Beatniks then the hippies, although hip-hop actually did become a mainstream musical style without white theft or intervention.

To your other point of words coming in and out of fashion due to generations shunning the cool-speak of their parents, words like cool, are still fleeing the mouths of teens sometimes. The peace sign of the hippies perhaps originated by Churchill is also seen flashed by kids today.

[piratfisk]

Great, thanks! Back on topic, I just heard "We've got a few taskers today" and I wanted to push that person's eyeballs in. "Taskers" is not a word & it is just repeated nonsense from whichever idiot said it up the chain of command.

[mailman]

What’s up boss?
Hey boss.
Can I help you boss?

I’m not your boss.

[Blansky]

Lots of military guys here and they are pretty famous for military speak and acronyms.

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by Blansky

Lots of military guys here and they are pretty famous for military speak and acronyms.

Roger that

[piratfisk]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

Roger that

"That's affirm." I heard "lima charlie" a while back (loud & clear). Lots of people think they're tacti-cool. I bet you're glad you're away from the big blue machine.

[FTX I]

Nevermind