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Old 16 July 2020, 08:55 PM   #61
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Anyone reading this thread that is overweight, or resembles his before picture, or has a problem losing wrought, is also being referred to as a fat porker. Or a person with no will power.

Yes. Anyone has the right to say anything about themselves that they want. But simply by association it is also referring to similar people.

Just saying. There are other ways to say it that might not make someone else feel like a piece of

One can be proud of themselves all they like. And in this case, he should be. It’s an incredibly hard thing that he did.

And again, I agree with you. Anyone has the right to refer to themselves in a certain way. But clearly anyone that is currently in his “old phase”, will potentially awesome his comments as insulting.

Maybe they won’t. Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe I’m too sensitive. Maybe I’m not. I prefer to err on the side of caution. I just don’t like to make people feel badly about themselves.

Considering cardiovascular disease is rapidly becoming one of the biggest challenges to the health care system in the western world, perhaps hurting people’s feelings should not be concern number 1?

Get after it, OP! Great job.


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Old 16 July 2020, 09:04 PM   #62
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Agree. Dropping is one thing. Keeping it away isn’t easy. I’ve found equilibrium at 148lbs which is around 60lbs lower than peak.

Your transformation has been outstanding. I can only imagine the effort it took. Congratulations.
Quite honestly if I would go and have this 10lbs (I'm guessing) of excess skin hanging on me, I would be in the mid 140's myself. I know BMI's don't mean much but still mine is about 21 and that only includes about 3% of the white males over 65. According to the BMI Chart it states I am most likely from Ethiopia..!
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Old 16 July 2020, 09:08 PM   #63
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Considering cardiovascular disease is rapidly becoming one of the biggest challenges to the health care system in the western world, perhaps hurting people’s feelings should not be concern number 1?

Get after it, OP! Great job.


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SOOOOOOOOOOO many people are on High Blood Pressure Meds, Clhloresterol Meds, Diabetes Meds and tons of other medications because of the lifestyle "CHOICE"they make.

I have never and I mean never been on one single drug or medication in my life and that includes now where I am 66 1/2 years old and feel like I am on top of my "HEALTH GAME"..!
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SOOOOOOOOOOO many people are on High Blood Pressure Meds, Clhloresterol Meds, Diabetes Meds and tons of other medications because of the lifestyle "CHOICE"they make.

I have never and I mean never been on one single drug or medication in my life and that includes now where I am 66 1/2 years old and feel like I am on top of my "HEALTH GAME"..!

Good for you! That places you in a small minority.


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Old 16 July 2020, 09:17 PM   #65
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Here is one more flattering gross overweight picture of me before the transformation . Please note I did not have one single medical issue or problem then except if I would have continued down that path of destruction any longer, I surely would have.. Knees, Hips, Joints, Heart, etc etc can not take that brutal abuse for ever before something gives out..

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Old 16 July 2020, 10:01 PM   #66
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I have a similar experience.

I'm 52 now and nine years ago I was about 235lbs (I'm 5' 7''). In just eight months I dropped about 90lbs, to 145; my lowest point was 136lbs the year after. However, according to my wife and family I was a mess, both physically and mentally.

Fast forward to last February, at the start of the COVID-19 lockdown here in Italy, my scale was saying 200lbs more or less. I then decided to make something useful of the lockdown and nowadays my weight is again below 170lbs.

I can only hope that this time I will stop gaining weight for good, we'll see.
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Old 16 July 2020, 10:07 PM   #67
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Sigh...

Anyone reading this thread that is overweight, or resembles his before picture, or has a problem losing wrought, is also being referred to as a fat porker. Or a person with no will power.

Yes. Anyone has the right to say anything about themselves that they want. But simply by association it is also referring to similar people.

Just saying. There are other ways to say it that might not make someone else feel like a piece of

One can be proud of themselves all they like. And in this case, he should be. It’s an incredibly hard thing that he did.

And again, I agree with you. Anyone has the right to refer to themselves in a certain way. But clearly anyone that is currently in his “old phase”, will potentially awesome his comments as insulting.

Maybe they won’t. Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe I’m too sensitive. Maybe I’m not. I prefer to err on the side of caution. I just don’t like to make people feel badly about themselves.

Big sigh.....

Yes, I do think you are, perhaps, being too sensitive, and, maybe, assuming too much 'hurt' for unknown others.
I am, well overweight, but trying to do something about that. I am not at all insulted or offended by Mr.B's 'Porker' photo's. Are you?
I completely understand, that we now live in a world where everybody seems to be looking for a any reason to be offended, and that everything is somebody else's fault.
Had you given any thought that, your comments to me might be making me,"feel badly about myself"? (They Don't).
I like to think that all the porkers of the world, might be inspired by Mr.B's recocognition of his own porkiness and his inspirational efforts. As a bit of a porkmeister m'self I am certainly inspired!
Self awareness of any porkage is, maybe, half the battle.
So, Porkboyz, don't get offended, get inspired and motivated.
I know, I am.

Thank you Mr.Breuguet.
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Old 16 July 2020, 10:20 PM   #68
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I have a similar experience.

I'm 52 now and nine years ago I was about 235lbs (I'm 5' 7''). In just eight months I dropped about 90lbs, to 145; my lowest point was 136lbs the year after. However, according to my wife and family I was a mess, both physically and mentally.

Fast forward to last February, at the start of the COVID-19 lockdown here in Italy, my scale was saying 200lbs more or less. I then decided to make something useful of the lockdown and nowadays my weight is again below 170lbs.

I can only hope that this time I will stop gaining weight for good, we'll see.
Very well done Fabio!
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Old 16 July 2020, 10:36 PM   #69
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Last of my "PORKER PICRURES" as I am not ashamed of whom I was and even more proud of myself over the last 12 years for the transformation I made that was my own choice and nobody else. Yes I am totally obsessed with this new fangled life style..

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Old 16 July 2020, 10:38 PM   #70
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I have a similar experience.

I'm 52 now and nine years ago I was about 235lbs (I'm 5' 7''). In just eight months I dropped about 90lbs, to 145; my lowest point was 136lbs the year after. However, according to my wife and family I was a mess, both physically and mentally.

Fast forward to last February, at the start of the COVID-19 lockdown here in Italy, my scale was saying 200lbs more or less. I then decided to make something useful of the lockdown and nowadays my weight is again below 170lbs.

I can only hope that this time I will stop gaining weight for good, we'll see.

I am sure you very well know that you need to set your mind to it and stay on track with results to follow.. Maintaining is the hardest thing of the entire weight loss deal.. great job young fellow..
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Old 16 July 2020, 10:42 PM   #71
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Brequet, many many many congrats. I played division one college sports at 175 pounds, Although I’m short, I was solid muscle. Here we are 35 years later and I’m 185, still solid muscle.... (OK, maybe not). But I keep myself in decent condition with exercise and eating fairly. To me, it’s a personal thing for every human, but take DECENT care of yourself. If you are in to cycling/running/swimming 8,000 miles a week and maintaining zero percent body fat, more power to you. If you take 30 minute walks four times a week and maintain a decent weight, more power to you. I hold respect for anyone that takes DECENT care of their body and health.

We all have our own take on what one wants out of a healthy life style and what works for one will not work for another.. I know for a fact with proven results that what I am doing is correct and works for me over the last 12 years.. 12 years is a pretty good barometer on how you are doing with something.. Riding my bike 7 days a week is just a added bonus that I can do as most 66 1/2 could not sit on the bike seat I have for 1 minute..

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Old 16 July 2020, 10:44 PM   #72
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Big sigh.....

Yes, I do think you are, perhaps, being too sensitive, and, maybe, assuming too much 'hurt' for unknown others.
I am, well overweight, but trying to do something about that. I am not at all insulted or offended by Mr.B's 'Porker' photo's. Are you?
I completely understand, that we now live in a world where everybody seems to be looking for a any reason to be offended, and that everything is somebody else's fault.
Had you given any thought that, your comments to me might be making me,"feel badly about myself"? (They Don't).
I like to think that all the porkers of the world, might be inspired by Mr.B's recocognition of his own porkiness and his inspirational efforts. As a bit of a porkmeister m'self I am certainly inspired!
Self awareness of any porkage is, maybe, half the battle.
So, Porkboyz, don't get offended, get inspired and motivated.
I know, I am.

Thank you Mr.Breuguet.
Your ability to use "pork" in so many different ways is impressive. However, If you have ever read any of Seth's posts you will see he isn't overly sensitive, but he does choose his words wisely as to never offend anyone no matter the topic.

I can relate to this topic since I am an overweight guys that has gone up and down on the scale throughout my life. My saving grace is that I am 6'3" with very broad shoulders therefore, I look like I play in the NFL. The only difffernce is that when I am heavier I look like a lineman and when I am trim I look like a linebacker lol.

Does him using the term FAT PORKER offend me...no because I have come to terms with who I am. However, this forum is filled with different types of people with varying degrees of mental state and that is why certain terms can be hot buttons for some and be avoided if not necessary to get your point across.

I see Mr.Breuguet using the term FAT PORKER to emphasize how he felt or how he feels when he looks at those pictures. However, I also feel he uses the term to put down his old self, and perhaps those that are currently overweight or battling a weight issue. Also, by putting down his old self he can make his current self feel more grandiose for being able to keep the weight off for so long (a HUGE accomplishment).

So I'll say that there was no need to use a phrase with such a negative connotation to describe his old self, but that is how he viewed himself and therefore has the right to do so.

To those battling weight issues take it one meal at a time and remind yourself that your next meal can be a healthy if you choose...then repeat. That is how Mr.Breuguet has been able to stay healthy for so long... one meal at a time.
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Old 16 July 2020, 10:59 PM   #73
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If anyone is interested in what I usually eat on a daily basis this list below pretty much sums it up.

Tons of Water.. ( I hate water but drink a gallon every day)

1/2 Boiled Eggs

Walnuts

Almonds

Brazil Nuts

Dates

Figs

Rice Crackers

Humous

Vegetable Smoothie 4 times a week NASTY AND YUCK

Coffee

Lentils

Beans

Salmon

Tuna

Beer

Slice of Pie (my reward) with my afternoon coffee..

I do not consume and red meat or processed foods, I do not eat everything on the list every day but this is pretty much all I will ever put in my mouth with controlled portions.. Yes once in awhile I will eat a few taco chips or eat some crazy calories in mexican dishes but very very rarely...I use to be a very very heavy red meat eater of beef and lamb but no meat for me in 12 years.. Thats just me for no real reason but to stop eating it..
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Sigh...

Anyone reading this thread that is overweight, or resembles his before picture, or has a problem losing wrought, is also being referred to as a fat porker. Or a person with no will power.

Yes. Anyone has the right to say anything about themselves that they want. But simply by association it is also referring to similar people.

Just saying. There are other ways to say it that might not make someone else feel like a piece of

One can be proud of themselves all they like. And in this case, he should be. It’s an incredibly hard thing that he did.

And again, I agree with you. Anyone has the right to refer to themselves in a certain way. But clearly anyone that is currently in his “old phase”, will potentially awesome his comments as insulting.

Maybe they won’t. Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe I’m too sensitive. Maybe I’m not. I prefer to err on the side of caution. I just don’t like to make people feel badly about themselves.
I'm with you on this Many many many people are overweight/obese and out of shape, set up to hasten their demise. This can be for a variety of reasons, but of course we all know that it ultimately comes down to the internal drive to better one's self continuously. Some people have got it, like Mr. BreguetRolex, but many people have a very difficult time undergoing a transformation as he has done. And blaming and shaming is simply counterproductive. I'm not saying I know the answer, but that's not it.

I've undergone my own mini-transformation over the last 7 months, probably not visible to anyone other than my loving wife who puts up with me every day. She knows me after 15 years together and used a combination of setting an example, teasing remarks that she knows I can take, and other rewarding "gymnastics". So I got off my rear end and started doing a combination of aerobic exercise (rowing mostly) and resistance training based on an app I downloaded. At the beginning I was peaking out at around 189 pounds at 5'11", stretching the waist-bands on my pants, using the next hole on the belt, etc. My first workout left me unable to walk normally for a few days. Now I'm down to 175, stronger, less fat and more lean muscle mass, and I feel better too. We've dramatically cut back our meat intake and increased the veggies, sometimes going full vegetarian for a few days for kicks. I don't like my proteins any less, it's just that it takes much less to feel satisfied. Frankly I barely restrict myself from having anything, it's just that I get naturally full more easily.

The point of all this is that we have different roads to fitness, and it helps to get people on the path that is best for them. For a morbidly obese person it may simply be walking around the block for half an hour daily to get enough aerobic fitness to move to the next step. But muttering "porker" or something else derogatory can only be discouraging for most folks in that situation, even when referring to one's own self.

Here's a the book that helped me kick it off. Lots of common sense, easy to read, and easy to incorporate into your life. Except the dumbbells. It's friggin impossible to get dumbbells these days

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You are a by product of what you stick in your mouth and a good indication how someone eats is to take a look in their fridge or look in their food shopping cart plus usually the heavier one is, the closest one wants to park in the handicap parking spot..:)
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Well done!
I'm content with not gaining weight during quarantine and actually increasing my workouts !
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I read the post for what it is: The OP was passionate about his lifestyle choices and achievements. I did not read it as an indictment of overweight people.

OP...I grew up in Ohio. So from one Buckeye to another...well done! I have enjoyed reading your post and appreciate the consistent dedication to achieve your lifestyle goals. I can understand why you are so proud.
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Very well done Fabio!
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I am sure you very well know that you need to set your mind to it and stay on track with results to follow.. Maintaining is the hardest thing of the entire weight loss deal.. great job young fellow..
Yup, I just have to convince myself that I don't like sweets, cakes, bread, pasta and so on.

I consider myself lucky that I don't like fries and fried food in general.
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Regarding meat I only eat meat or frankly anything with cholesterol during dinner. This keeps me at about 6-8 oz per day but I’d like to get lower. We do no meat once a week but that’s only because I’ve made a homemade pizza
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Congrats on the weightloss and healthy lifestyle. It takes a passion to get there. Thankfully you found it in cycling.
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Regarding meat I only eat meat or frankly anything with cholesterol during dinner. This keeps me at about 6-8 oz per day but I’d like to get lower. We do no meat once a week but that’s only because I’ve made a homemade pizza
GB..Zero preaching about red meat at all as I was a in love with Lamb Chops 6-8 at a time and also could down a 60OZ porterhouse plus more.. Honestly meat probably never really helped much in losing weight but more afraid of the effects of way to much meat in the form of the big silent killer Colon Cancer.. My mouth still waters every time I smell a steak cooking on the grill or I see someone take a big old bite out of a double bacon cheeseburger with a pound of deep fried french fries..:) When I stopped, I just stopped cold turkey one day and never touched it again.. My wife also does not touch it either since I stopped but she will bring chicken to the house to cook but not for me...
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I'm content with not gaining weight during quarantine and actually increasing my workouts !

Yes we sure all march to the beat of a different drummer with our own personal goals in mind and thats awesome..
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Congrats on the weightloss and healthy lifestyle. It takes a passion to get there. Thankfully you found it in cycling.

There is nothing like being out on my bike at 4am in the morning busting my rear to try and live another healthy unemcumbered day. My day is complete when I know i can and will get my bike ride in...:)
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Yup, I just have to convince myself that I don't like sweets, cakes, bread, pasta and so on.

I consider myself lucky that I don't like fries and fried food in general.
I am having a big slice of blueberry pie this afternoon with a fresh cup of coffee when i get up from my nap..:) Oh I love Apple and Blueberry Pies..:)
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I am having a big slice of blueberry pie this afternoon with a fresh cup of coffee when i get up from my nap..:) Oh I love Apple and Blueberry Pies..:)
Yes, I believe, you should 'reward' yourself in a measured way after, successful, sustained effort.
And my, doesn't that pie taste good, when you have 'earned' it!

My 'pie', is an occasional, Campari and orange juice on, a Saturday evening.
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Considering cardiovascular disease is rapidly becoming one of the biggest challenges to the health care system in the western world, perhaps hurting people’s feelings should not be concern number 1
Very good point!
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Congrats on the loss and keeping it off OP.

I'm 5'7 on a good day, and now weigh 185. I was as much as 205 at my heaviest and then got down to 175. The goal is to get to around 170 and hold there.

For me I wanted to lose the weight with as little effort as possible. I learned that (not surprisingly) I lose weight quickly when I eat less. No snacking after dinner makes a huge difference.

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GB..Zero preaching about red meat at all as I was a in love with Lamb Chops 6-8 at a time and also could down a 60OZ porterhouse plus more.. Honestly meat probably never really helped much in losing weight but more afraid of the effects of way to much meat in the form of the big silent killer Colon Cancer.. My mouth still waters every time I smell a steak cooking on the grill or I see someone take a big old bite out of a double bacon cheeseburger with a pound of deep fried french fries..:) When I stopped, I just stopped cold turkey one day and never touched it again.. My wife also does not touch it either since I stopped but she will bring chicken to the house to cook but not for me...

I agree on that we only do red meat maybe maybe 3-4 times a month. At home it’s basically chicken.
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You are quite silly as I have every single right to call "MYSELF" a fat Pig and a PORKER because I was one just like I see going into Wal Mart buying there Cigs, Chips, Ice Cream , Hotdogs and garbage..
Any sanctimonious virtue signaler among us doesn’t belong in your head, trust me what they are doing in their own lives is unimpressive to say the least, but your accomplishment and focus is remarkable, thank you for sharing with us, and well done and keep it up it’s obvious it’s not a matter of theory for you, the things you’re doing, however you’re thinking and motivating yourself, whatever it is, keep doing it friend
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Well done BR! Much respect to your discipline and determination. You are also the 1st older person I've seen shave his head when he could grow a full head of hair. Anywho.....I'm officially inspired to exercise more.

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