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Old 17 December 2020, 03:11 PM   #1
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I definitely feel you. I just bought three watches this month and then got two powerhouse phone calls for two other watches; I had to pass. It's all about Karma, it will come back around again.

To the people who said you should of bought then flipped. Granted its only a watch that you bought and own; f the dealers. But in the end its all about the relationship. If you like to be able to get the watches you want and have a good relationship with your AD, it's not worth losing that for a few thousand.
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Old 17 December 2020, 03:26 PM   #2
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Old 17 December 2020, 06:56 PM   #3
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Got the call today for a "surprise Christmas present" from my AD. It's been a busy year as I bought two watches along with my wife's engagement / wedding band from the same AD, but curiosity got the best of me so I decided to go in and take a look.

The SA came out with a black ceramic Daytona. After much going back and forth in my head I decided it wasn't the right time to pull the trigger and told the SA I was going to pass until I was ready.

The SA seemed to appreciate it and told me when I was ready he would make it happen...again.

All I can say is damn, I feel dumb....
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Old 17 December 2020, 06:58 PM   #4
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You did the right thing, the AD will appreciate the honesty and I am sure that that will help with future purchases.
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Old 17 December 2020, 06:58 PM   #5
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Got the call today for a "surprise Christmas present" from my AD. It's been a busy year as I bought two watches along with my wife's engagement / wedding band from the same AD, but curiosity got the best of me so I decided to go in and take a look.

The SA came out with a black ceramic Daytona. After much going back and forth in my head I decided it wasn't the right time to pull the trigger and told the SA I was going to pass until I was ready.

The SA seemed to appreciate it and told me when I was ready he would make it happen...again.

All I can say is damn, I feel dumb....
Wow. Sorry to say: that was a bad move IMO and I wouldn’t even be sure that your move went down well with the AD. People will say the AD will respect you for passing up a steel Daytona etc. But I’m not so sure. Hope I’m wrong!
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Old 17 December 2020, 07:07 PM   #6
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To all the people equating the experience of turning down a Sub/Exp/DJ/OP/whathaveyous to the Daytona, please, just don't.
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Old 17 December 2020, 07:16 PM   #7
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It sounds like you have had a busy year with purchases and you will have made the right call im sure.

The AD will no doubt log this on the system and it will give you even more credit with them, they know you could have just bought it and flipped it.

Hell of a watch to turn down tho....
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Old 17 December 2020, 07:35 PM   #8
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WOW. As much as I respect and commend the integrity of the OP for turning down this piece, I really can't wrap my head around it.

By getting a call for this piece I'm assuming that the OP has good relations with the ADs though.

The next person who gets this watch really lucked out. Let's hope that he's not a flipper.
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Old 17 December 2020, 08:17 PM   #9
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Old 17 December 2020, 08:29 PM   #10
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I’ve passed on it once myself but will not again. At minimum it’s as easy profit of 5k.


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Old 17 December 2020, 08:32 PM   #11
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Old 17 December 2020, 10:02 PM   #12
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You did the right thing, you like the watch but you might have something else that is more important to spend money on, so you pass. This is just a watch, nothing that important, you can have it later when you're ready.
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Old 18 December 2020, 02:40 AM   #13
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You did the right thing, you like the watch but you might have something else that is more important to spend money on, so you pass. This is just a watch, nothing that important, you can have it later when you're ready.
He won’t be offered it again
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Old 17 December 2020, 10:05 PM   #14
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Not sure why you should feel bad about passing on a watch that didn't sing to you. If you tried it on and you totally loved it I'm sure you would have bought it. I don't like the idea of buying a watch simply because it's in demand. Good call. Down the road the AD will present you with another watch that will rock your world and you'll be happy you waited.
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Old 17 December 2020, 10:06 PM   #15
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You did the right thing IMO. A purchase like that should be filled with excitement not feelings of remorse.
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Old 17 December 2020, 10:12 PM   #16
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Another thread about money as the OP obviously did not have the funds to make this purchase work. He also did not have the thought process to see if he could figure it out based on what he has. Sell other watches, look at credit options, put some cash together, sell your car, a joke, or generally do something that moves you toward your goal. I listen to a lot of new people to the watch game and most of the time it is just blowing smoke. The AD called you out and got you what you wanted and you didn't even try to make it work. This is more about the OP than the watch and Karma has nothing to do with it. This is business and the AD is offering a watch for a price that if purchased could be a cornerstone of a collection or a sell for significant profit and the OP failed to recognize this opportunity on a watch he wanted. My personal experience with AD's is that once you pass on a desirable and sought after watch you will not get that chance again with that watch or any other unless you are a VIP and have spent significant money with them. Such is life for the OP and hopefully he can learn from this. What he learns is up to him.
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Old 18 December 2020, 01:21 AM   #17
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Another thread about money as the OP obviously did not have the funds to make this purchase work. He also did not have the thought process to see if he could figure it out based on what he has. Sell other watches, look at credit options, put some cash together, sell your car, a joke, or generally do something that moves you toward your goal. I listen to a lot of new people to the watch game and most of the time it is just blowing smoke. The AD called you out and got you what you wanted and you didn't even try to make it work. This is more about the OP than the watch and Karma has nothing to do with it. This is business and the AD is offering a watch for a price that if purchased could be a cornerstone of a collection or a sell for significant profit and the OP failed to recognize this opportunity on a watch he wanted. My personal experience with AD's is that once you pass on a desirable and sought after watch you will not get that chance again with that watch or any other unless you are a VIP and have spent significant money with them. Such is life for the OP and hopefully he can learn from this. What he learns is up to him.
Wow! thats harsh even for here!

Thinking about the OP story makes me want to go and lie down somewhere dark and quite and try to forget this one.

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If you couldn't move the money around then you've done the right thing, but if this was my grail I would have found a way I think.
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Old 17 December 2020, 10:21 PM   #19
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You did the right thing.
Great opportunity - yes but if it doesn't feel right then wait until it does.
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Old 17 December 2020, 10:25 PM   #20
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I also passed on the same watch in late 2016, and no regrets.
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Old 17 December 2020, 10:29 PM   #21
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Got the call today for a "surprise Christmas present" from my AD. It's been a busy year as I bought two watches along with my wife's engagement / wedding band from the same AD, but curiosity got the best of me so I decided to go in and take a look.

The SA came out with a black ceramic Daytona. After much going back and forth in my head I decided it wasn't the right time to pull the trigger and told the SA I was going to pass until I was ready.

The SA seemed to appreciate it and told me when I was ready he would make it happen...again.

All I can say is damn, I feel dumb....
No shortage of opinions here but I turned down a Daytona years ago and regretted it almost immediately after. So I fell your pain...
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Well it’s pretty much safe to say you won’t get another shot. It’s literally (both Daytona’s ) the second most difficult Rolex watch to get next to the blue sky dweller. All these people who are saying good job must not understand that you called this particular watch your grail. I would’ve figured out a way to have picked it up. If it was an easy to get piece then passing it up this time would have been no big deal. Oh well.
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Well it’s pretty much safe to say you won’t get another shot. It’s literally (both Daytona’s ) the second most difficult Rolex watch to get next to the blue sky dweller. All these people who are saying good job must not understand that you called this particular watch your grail. I would’ve figured out a way to have picked it up. If it was an easy to get piece then passing it up this time would have been no big deal. Oh well.
I took the post to mean he didn’t have the funds in place to purchase at this time. Perhaps with waiting lists in the “years” timing just didn’t work out for the OP and there was no way to go ahead ... who knows we don’t know his finances. Maybe I read it wrong.

Regardless I think he feels bad enough, we don’t need to pile on
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I took the post to mean he didn’t have the funds in place to purchase at this time. Perhaps with waiting lists in the “years” timing just didn’t work out for the OP and there was no way to go ahead ... who knows we don’t know his finances. Maybe I read it wrong.

Regardless I think he feels bad enough, we don’t need to pile on
I agree with you. Also I wasn’t piling anything onto him. I promise.

All I was saying was that if it really was his grail watch now was the time. After all it’s not like it was a date just.
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Old 18 December 2020, 01:43 AM   #25
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Well it’s pretty much safe to say you won’t get another shot. It’s literally (both Daytona’s ) the second most difficult Rolex watch to get next to the blue sky dweller. All these people who are saying good job must not understand that you called this particular watch your grail. I would’ve figured out a way to have picked it up. If it was an easy to get piece then passing it up this time would have been no big deal. Oh well.
I understood what he said but it’s refreshing to see someone on here exercise a bit of restraint if the timing just wasn’t right.
The number of people in this forum who are likely in debt, or have passed up other priorities to buy a watch, is truly a bit frightening.
We are talking about a watch.
Sounds like the dealer values his relationship, and there will certainly be other chances to get this mass produced watch, which by the way is still being produced, be it from the same dealer or another.
I applaud the OP for passing, rather than levering to get something so frivolous.
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I understood what he said but it’s refreshing to see someone on here exercise a bit of restraint if the timing just wasn’t right.
The number of people in this forum who are likely in debt, or have passed up other priorities to buy a watch, is truly a bit frightening.
We are talking about a watch.
Sounds like the dealer values his relationship, and there will certainly be other chances to get this mass produced watch, which by the way is still being produced, be it from the same dealer or another.
I applaud the OP for passing, rather than levering to get something so frivolous.
I don’t know man. Go ahead and do a search for threads on financing watches and you’ll find that the vast majority of people here are not only against that but find members who do finance watchs incredibly irresponsible and stupid. They are actually pretty funny threads. They are one of the best “my truck is bigger than your truck” threads I’ve ever read on this forum.
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I don’t know man. Go ahead and do a search for threads on financing watches and you’ll find that the vast majority of people here are not only against that but find members who do finance watchs incredibly irresponsible and stupid. They are actually pretty funny threads. They are one of the best “my truck is bigger than your truck” threads I’ve ever read on this forum.
I get that. I’ve been around a while, and have seen many posts about it, but some of these responses make me feel that many are using more than just disposable income to buy these toys.
When people say things like “you should have found a way”, or 1William saying “look into credit options”, it’s telling.
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I get that. I’ve been around a while, and have seen many posts about it, but some of these responses make me feel that many are using more than just disposable income to buy these toys.
When people say things like “you should have found a way”, or 1William saying “look into credit options”, it’s telling.
I hear you. I was kind of one of those guys. Only because we are talking about a Daytona in the most difficult and impossible times to get one. None of us have any idea his financial situation or life situation for that matter. But then again he did post about it so it’s open for conversation. Either way I see what you mean.
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Old 18 December 2020, 04:02 AM   #29
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When people say things like “you should have found a way”, or 1William saying “look into credit options”, it’s telling.
If offered anything with fair market value, after accounting for transaction costs, bid/ask spread, value of my time etc, of 50% or more above my cost, I would absolutely "look into credit options" and then decide based on impact on cash flow. Most could probably cancel a subscription or two to come up with the $20/month this would require for a Daytona.
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Old 18 December 2020, 05:19 PM   #30
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Op cant win....if he flipped it he’d get a ton of flack and for not buying it he’s getting a ton of flack.
I think he did the right thing and if you had just bought it to flip the Ad would never deal with him again....ive passed on plenty and its never effected my next offering
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