''INCOMING from a new swedish member - newbie question as well'

[duncand111]

Congrats on your 126710BLRO, the only consolation is that you got what you have waited this long for. But they should have informed you about getting extra watches to be able to purchase the 126710BLRO before going over AD.

[Cambo]

Originally Posted by G.Montag

"Bait and switch" is an actual offence under s. 74.04 the Completion Act, genius. False or misleading representations are also illegal.



https://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-34/FullText.html

I'm sure that Sweden or any other civilized country would have similar consumer protection laws.

Eat a Snickers

[Dirt]

Oh no.
They stitched you up in every one of the very worst possible ways
That's not right at all and I would've passed on that dealer experience in a heartbeat once the sting was revealed

You probably could've gone with a reputable grey dealer from beginning and still been in the same position financially and had the enjoyment of the watch without being stung.
I suppose you would have watches to give as gifts to others if you were that way inclined.

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by Deepseadoug

Kinda sounds like you got hustled into spending more money by a bum AD

Bum AD indeed
It borders on being executed as an outright scam

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by rootbeer7

Return the other 2 pieces immediately as not suitable. There must be consumer laws giving you protection if you change your mind after purchase.

I bow to your business acumen
What an excellent strategy. Outstanding

I personally would've been in too much shock to think that one up
One could walk out of the shop, have a cup of coffee, then return immediately to claim a refund on the unopened goods.
Effectively sting them straight back

That'll f**k em where they won't like it
It's not like that particular dealership relationship could possibly be any further compromised as a result

[teck21]

Originally Posted by Dirt

You probably could've gone with a reputable grey dealer from beginning and still been in the same position financially and had the enjoyment of the watch without being stung.

Do you not read before you post?

Please direct him to a Reputable grey dealer where he could have obtained bnib Pepsi and been in the same position financially.

Pepsi at MSRP with SEK20,000 (I doubled it for kicks).

Plenty of desperate readers here would love to know where they could get such a deal.


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[coucher]

What a bad note. Congrats anyway

[Bezel941]

Hi again everyone,
I’m relieved that this appears to common in the industry, I’m still puzzled how they can get away with this type of behavior but I guess in the heat of the moment, after having waited for close to more than two years I felt a little too giddy and just pulled the trigger without much thinking, it didn’t help that my wife was egging me on and we were both super excited. At the same time we almost felt a sense of obligation, the manager went in to detail about how much these GMT-Master watches are sought after. For those who are curios, it was about 50000 SEK added on top of the price of the 126710, the watches were an identical pair of Tag Heuer Aquaracers and were the cheapest watches available in the store.

[teck21]

Congrats, you’ll love it. Just sell the other two if you don’t want them.

The AD should have informed you from the outset, but otherwise this is a solid AD, doing the right thing.

Would you have bought it if they told you from the start though?

A merchant can sell their goods to whomever they want. So they certainly can sell a GMT II to someone willing to buy two extra watches as well.


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[garyk]

Congrats to the OP but I think I might have walked away.

[sgwatchguy]

Big congrats!

A picture of the Tag would help me decide how I think about the AD and whether you should keep it or dump it.



I’ve been through worse with PP. At least your AD honored their word on a Rolex with your name on it.

[nGage7962]

I love it! Everything in society should work this way. It would be so much better.

"Sir, That car your ordered is ready for collection now"
On Arrival
"..and what other two cars will you be buying today sir so we can allow you to buy the car you ordered?"

or... "and what other two plane seats would you like to pay for along with the one you actually wanted?"

or... "and what other two meals would you like to buy with the one you ordered from the menu, we can't let you have the one you want unless you order two others"

... Now that is how I want every purchase experience to be. A better world for all.

[1675-David]

Return the 2 watches you don’t want to the AD, konsumentköplagen has totally got your back on this one. You should also report this to Konsumentverket, this practice will carry on until someone says stop and the law is very much on your side in this instance. Good luck!!



https://www.konsumentverket.se/for-k...nsumentverket/

[palooka68]

Originally Posted by Bezel941

Hi again everyone,
I’m relieved that this appears to common in the industry, I’m still puzzled how they can get away with this type of behavior but I guess in the heat of the moment, after having waited for close to more than two years I felt a little too giddy and just pulled the trigger without much thinking, it didn’t help that my wife was egging me on and we were both super excited. At the same time we almost felt a sense of obligation, the manager went in to detail about how much these GMT-Master watches are sought after. For those who are curios, it was about 50000 SEK added on top of the price of the 126710, the watches were an identical pair of Tag Heuer Aquaracers and were the cheapest watches available in the store.

They get away with this type of behavior because YOU LET THEM.

[Scaramanga74]

Originally Posted by Bezel941

Hi again everyone,
I’m relieved that this appears to common in the industry, I’m still puzzled how they can get away with this type of behavior but I guess in the heat of the moment, after having waited for close to more than two years I felt a little too giddy and just pulled the trigger without much thinking, it didn’t help that my wife was egging me on and we were both super excited. At the same time we almost felt a sense of obligation, the manager went in to detail about how much these GMT-Master watches are sought after. For those who are curios, it was about 50000 SEK added on top of the price of the 126710, the watches were an identical pair of Tag Heuer Aquaracers and were the cheapest watches available in the store.

This is so not OK. Which AD was it?

You can also post your thoughts on www.klocksnack.se for some swedish response to your experience. ;)

[per78]

Really sad to hear.
Congrats to the watch.

[Faapaa]

According to the «konsumentköpslagen» (purchase act) you can return the 2 watches and get a full refund. Donˋt forget to to thank them with a f... y..

[IBDOC]

Originally Posted by Faapaa

According to the «konsumentköpslagen» (purchase act) you can return the 2 watches and get a full refund. Donˋt forget to to thank them with a f... y..

Konsumentköpslagen contains no provision for no-fault return unless agreed upon at the time of purchase. Unconditional right to returns and refund only exists for online and other non-physical transactions (distanssköplagen).

[tudorbaja27]

You got bullied, and accepted it. End of story.

[afmars]

Pics?

[GMT Aviator]

Eventually this kind of practise will end up featuring on one of those undercover consumer shows on TV, you know, where the film-makers chase some unsuspecting CEO or AD manager across a car park as he gets out of his Aston Martin and ask him to explain their underhand selling practises.

And when it does, it's going to make the whole industry look really bad. Rolex included.

[stubim]

Originally Posted by Dirt

Oh no.
They stitched you up in every one of the very worst possible ways
That's not right at all and I would've passed on that dealer experience in a heartbeat once the sting was revealed

You probably could've gone with a reputable grey dealer from beginning and still been in the same position financially and had the enjoyment of the watch without being stung.
I suppose you would have watches to give as gifts to others if you were that way inclined.

probably cheaper this route than grey market, well for this watch in particular, obviously not all

[Fredrik]

Could you please name the AD, I can guess, but I am curious to know.

Oh, and it is unacceptable that they didn't mention the bundling before you showed up.

[David cote]

congrats

[Yess]

Good old Rolex ADs... Gotta love em!

[bayerische]

There are other brands. Just sayin.

[Oyster Sauce]

I agree with others that this was poor form on the part of the AD. Not cool.

However, thinking about it from a pragmatic perspective, if the OP really wanted the BLRO (I believe he did/does), relatively speaking this seems like a pretty decent deal. According to Google, the SEK (Swedish Krona) is currently ~0.12 USD. So the 20,000 SEK in other watches that he had to buy amounts to ~2,425.98 USD. Am I missing something here? Compared to grey market markup on the BLRO, the cost of the two extra watches is minimal. And he got two functional watches in the process, in addition to one of the hottest SS watches on the planet. Sounds like he did well, all things considered.

Again, in principle the AD did not behave well. But I’m happy for the OP...got a BLRO and two more watches at the lowest premium I’ve seen. Wear in good health.

[brandrea]

Congratulations OP.

Have you decided what you’re doing with the TAG’s?

[spersky]

I would have walked away so fast. This story is actually kinda of pathetic. Over to Vacheron or JLC or IWC or ALS I would have gone. I prefer to sacrifice a material item I really want then loose some dignity by dealing with such tactics.

[subtona]

Either
Wait two years

Or
Bundle

Not wait two years and bundle