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9 January 2021, 01:11 AM | #61 |
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Maybe he’s actually the AD. Maybe a little Munchausen's going on, but instead of illness it’s Rolex.
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9 January 2021, 04:28 AM | #62 |
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I'll take a crack at this, and by doing so, am opening up myself to being flamed. So please be gracious! I wasn't familiar with this OP, and when I saw the first post I thought to myself, wow, lucky guy. Then, when I saw the other OP's posts, my first reaction was skepticism. That being said looking at the OP's Instagram account, and yes I know all of us would prefer this person posts the pics here, there's more than a few pics of the watches referred to in past posts with wrist shots. Of course, they could all be super replicas or whatever the right term is for copies. But they could all be legitimate as well. And if we take the stance of legitimacy, please allow me for a moment to inject some points of consideration. I'm fairly certain the OP is Asian, Japanese specifically, s/he writes in Japanese characters.
It also seems pretty clear from the pictures this is a fairly young, well travelled person. Very broadly speaking, the Japanese as a society value purity and authenticity, it is baked into who they are. So this generally wards me off the idea that these watches are not authentic. Secondly, what appears as gauche and haughty exhibitionism, ("look at what I just got") may need to be viewed through a slightly different cultural lens. The social behaviors in these posts by the OP are not out of place necessarily when including for cultural factors. We all know that every luxury goods company has pivoted to Asia for a reason. Asia (what a terrible way of stereotyping the largest continent on Earth - it's so diverse), particularly North Asian cultures are progressing through a never before seen evolution where the confluence of new wealth, new opportunities and younger generations not festooned to older traditional thinking is colliding. That collision is seeing younger more affluent buyers do what they've never been culturally encouraged to do before: show their independence. Traditionally, Asian cultures have been about "sit down," "get in line," "don't speak," "don't question." Now, new money, and a new sense of personal expression is driving the younger more affluent consumers to, my description, overcorrect to show their individuality. One of those ways is what we would consider distasteful "flexing." This isn't just a watch thing. Look at any luxury goods market where Asian consumers are just beginning to take hold (luxury handbags, luxury footwear, pianos). What we see in ShinShin's threads is not abnormal. Though culturally for western cultures, maybe it should be toned down. I literally just read an article (maybe NYT or WashPo) about how some affluent Chinese are finally starting to get the message, particularly those aligned to the party and tone it down. Not saying it is right or wrong, it is just culturally different. Now to the last point: seemingly walking into a host of AD with no history and purchasing highly sought after pieces. Sure an SD43 is potentially possible, though unlikely, but how to account for the others? If we extend the benefit of the doubt there are a couple explanations. The first is that the OP's concept of what an AD is, could very well be a little different than what we on the forum consider it to be. Let me explain - again I have no idea who this person is, maybe s/he's a troll - but, the "AD" could literally be the person my father tells me to visit. And whereas I have never purchased anything from this person or retailer, my family has. The "AD" could also literally be a person that visits me at my preparatory school with watches in hand, he's authorized because this is who my family uses. I'm not saying this is the case, I am saying these are plausible scenarios. The concept of grey versus AD to this OP for a variety of reasons may not be as clear cut as it is to us. Sure, he may have walked into a "new AD" and walked out with a Daytona, and sure, he may not have purchase history there...he neglected to say that his family bought $500K of Van Cleef and Arpels last year. It's about saving face, and if the OP is a male, it's about establishing one's own very important sense of place. Again - all of this is wild conjecture, but worth thinking about. Lastly "why hasn't the OP engaged more here?" That seems to be the sentiment, English is not this poster's first language. That from Instagram is clear. I can say unequivocally that Asians and South Asians (Indians for example) in particular often feel embarrassed for their lack of English fluency. This exhibits many times as tacit upfront agreement (even when they don't), recoiling, or disengagement from conversations. Trust me they have a lot to say, but in some cases are afraid they'll be over-matched or embarrassed language-wise. I think we can see, why if this person was a legitimate poster as well as a non-first language English speaker, it would be daunting formulating responses. This is a very fun forum to learn, admire and dream. In the coming years, there will be more and more people from non-western heritages that will become involved. I think this is a very welcoming place with expert advice and these other perspectives on how watches are viewed and related to, will be an interesting addition. |
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I appreciate your post in trying to maybe look beyond the OP's posts. I will make a few points. I am Asian and I can tell you Asians being into luxury goods is NOT new. Koreans, Japanese, and Chinese have been buying many luxury brands before they were even popular and this dates back a couple of decades. Asian consumers just now buying up luxury items like handbags and such is far from the truth. I think the whole concept of new money in Asia is a little dated. The only difference is the younger Asians now flaunt these luxury goods through social media versus my generation and that may be contributing to this perception of new found wealth and consumption. If you grew up where there was any kind of a significant Asian population was present, you would've seen most of the nice cars in the high school parking lots were Asian kids. Another point, Asians that don't feel comfortable with the English language shy away from posting in English forums all together. I question the OP's rare ability to be able to walk into random AD's and walk away with all the hard to get pieces without any purchase history Asian or not.
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This is very true. I am asian too, grew up in the Vancouver area. In the 90’s when i was in high school, the parking lot and cars some of the Asian kids had in my school was pretty crazy. The lower end cars were 3 series BMW’s. So you can only imagine what some of the higher end cars were. Asian money is nothing new. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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I need to see any incoming post from shinshin with the correct date on the watch, the day's newspaper and a handwritten sign with your username otherwise I'm calling ducktales! |
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9 January 2021, 11:07 AM | #68 |
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Looks nice in the box
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9 January 2021, 11:23 AM | #69 |
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Today’s posts are precisely why I’m on this thread. Fascinating reading. It’s a fun one.
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9 January 2021, 12:14 PM | #71 |
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I've never seen OP post a wrist shot.... interesting...
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9 January 2021, 01:47 PM | #72 | |
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Thanks for being a detective Lol The reason why I don't wear watches is I left most of the watches in my home country, normally, I am traveling with GMT master Pepsi. So My most of the IG wrist shot is Pepsi. Every my story is true but I don't care you believe it or not. If you really want to see more pictures just send a message to me through Instagram. I am happy to discuss watches with you. I am not showing off the buying history I realized a lot of you guys getting Patek AP, I just wanted to let you guys know "don't get wrong information from the internet." I have seen a lot of wrong information on the forum that I have experienced. Moreover, I have bought these Rolex from several countries. They have a different style of selling hot models. I never say got Daytona from AD in the USA. I know that is almost impossible. You should get out of your country and try to find your grail watch if you really want from AD. Language skill, Race, Rich, Poor, it doesn't matter if you have passion, you can buy it from AD no matter the long waiting list. I hope you can get your grail watch soon. |
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9 January 2021, 01:49 PM | #73 |
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Which country?
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10 January 2021, 12:26 AM | #75 |
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Welcome to Tatooine.
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10 January 2021, 03:11 AM | #76 |
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10 January 2021, 04:03 AM | #77 |
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Congratulations....that's a good start.
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10 January 2021, 04:35 AM | #78 |
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And I think @shinshin has a magic Rumburak ring that allows him to travel through space-time. If I had one, I would have as many Rolexes as he does.
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10 January 2021, 04:09 PM | #79 |
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congratulations. I actually walked into an AD for the first time earlier today and was able to pick up a black sub after being there were none available via text and initially when I asked about availability. There is hope. Just have to play the game unfortunately.
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12 January 2021, 08:07 AM | #80 |
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I feel like I'm missing some history with OP :)
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12 January 2021, 08:44 AM | #81 |
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Based on the number of responses you guys must love shinshin...just sayin
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12 January 2021, 07:10 PM | #82 |
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I walked into a random AD and picked all of these up yesterday , I guess it was my lucky day
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12 January 2021, 07:13 PM | #83 |
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12 January 2021, 08:57 PM | #84 |
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awesome piece!
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13 January 2021, 12:27 AM | #86 |
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Hey Shinshin
Did you get this and your other recent purchase at an AD in Japan? I also live in Japan. I’ve been told by a few people here that the best way to get a SS watch here is to pretty much go in to the store everyday to see if they have got any new deliveries. I’m not sure how true it is but I’ve been told by a few people that the ADs here don’t play games with most people. A good friend of mine has got 3 Daytonas, two subs (one being a Hulk) and two Sea Dwellers all from walking into an AD everyday to see what they had (he worked around the corner from the AD). Is this what you do also? |
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13 January 2021, 01:48 AM | #89 |
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Super congrats!!!
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Guys take it easy on OP.
Getting any watch from AD without purchase history should not be regarded as unbelievable or impossible. This is a country/AD dependent thing. If OP happen to be dealing with the right AD at the right moment things can happen the way he stated. Also, having no history by wearing a Rolex SD43 or other model on his wrist will help. I can relate to him because when I was looking / debating what Rolex model will become my first my Rolex boutique offered me all hot models “Sub, GMT blro, sky dweller” without any purchase history and I’m sure that the boutique will get me those models again within weeks of me ordering any of them. I’m so lucky to have such an incredible AD at my service and so maybe OP is lucky too. Good things can happen, this is a watch acquisition not a kidney. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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