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Old 6 June 2021, 04:42 AM   #61
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This is how I was able to purchase my Sub 41 ND from Tourneau. My SA wanted a brief background of myself about interests, hobbies etc and my career.

I see nothing wrong with this if they are vetting for flippers.

That just obnoxious.

I’d go somewhere else. Maybe somewhere on vacation.

Worst case I’d make up stuff.

“In the middle of teaching Uber privileged ADs how to destabilize cryptocurrency from home. Winter building shelters. Summers w/ Russian oligarchs, etc, etc.”


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Old 6 June 2021, 04:45 AM   #62
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This wouldn’t bother me much... Some Patek AD’s do this. They want to better understand their customers, and protect their interests. Plus it’s a chance to sell yourself. Everyone has an opinion but to me, this would be no biggie.


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In America, that’s got big fat law suit written fir nit selling me a watch due to my socio-economic status or whatever.


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Old 6 June 2021, 04:45 AM   #63
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It’s odd that someone wants a watch to show they’ve reached some level of success and then humiliate themselves to do it.


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No doubt! We have two AD’s that are local to me and I wouldn’t give those smug bastards the satisfaction of getting my business. In 2012 I was shopping for a Submariner and walked into my local AD thinking because I had the money that I could buy the watch I wanted and knowing now what I didn’t know then .... all that I left there with was the feeling that I wasn’t listened to and that they were pretentious assholes. I was offered everything I didn’t want, a new two tone Datejust and a used Hulk, which in hindsight I probably should have bought the hulk but I’ve never liked it.
My point is that the general public thinks that if you have the money and want a Rolex you can just go to the Rolex store and buy it but it doesn’t work that way.
Thankfully I could careless about buying a brand new watch because I’d much prefer to buy from an individual. It’s certainly easier on my dignity.


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Old 6 June 2021, 04:47 AM   #64
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Is this now common practice?
What do you think?

LOL! What a load of balls. What next? Pissing contests?

Time to find another AD. All the best with it.
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Old 6 June 2021, 04:49 AM   #65
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TRFer Joe: This is humiliating. Have you no dignity? I refuse to lick any AD’s boots. I’m done with Rolex!!!

Next post: These greedy ADs sell all their stock to flippers and grey dealers. They do NOTHING to stop the flippers.

Next post: Incoming! I LOVE my SA and AD!!! Should I buy my SA a $200 bottle of wine or $200 Nordstrom gift card?
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Old 6 June 2021, 04:50 AM   #66
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Love it! Looking forward to submitting my CV, statement of interest and letters of reference to the local boutiques once I get back to the US
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Old 6 June 2021, 04:51 AM   #67
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Question: why does everybody need to have a Rolex?
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Old 6 June 2021, 04:53 AM   #68
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I hope you didn't sneak a peek at anyone else's answers...
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Old 6 June 2021, 04:54 AM   #69
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Love it! Looking forward to submitting my CV, statement of interest and letters of reference to the local boutiques once I get back to the US

You forgot … blood work, drug test, finger prints, vaccination records, proof of residence, copy of mortgage, results from 23andme.


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Old 6 June 2021, 04:54 AM   #70
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I would have to plagiarize via a cliff notes booklet
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Old 6 June 2021, 04:56 AM   #71
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Tulip mania.


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Old 6 June 2021, 04:57 AM   #72
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In America, that’s got big fat law suit written fir nit selling me a watch due to my socio-economic status or whatever.
Yes, not being able to buy as many Rolexes I want puts me in a protected class under Civil Rights law!!
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Old 6 June 2021, 05:21 AM   #73
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All of the complete madness about AD’s I read on here would stop me from going back to one any time soon. Maybe I never will, I just couldn’t be bothered with it all.

In fact the more of this bs I read the less interest I have in ever adding another Rolex to the collection, if anything I’ll be selling instead. Why do people put up with it, brown nosing sales assistants and begging for a mass produced item. It can’t feel good demeaning yourself like that. Have some dignity it’s just a watch.
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Old 6 June 2021, 05:32 AM   #74
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Happy to already own 2. When I go for my dd40 if they give me ANY of this song and dance I am walking out of the sore and buying the Orient DD for under 500, which actually looks very nice.
That plus my 2 Rolexes should serve me just fine. If they want a thank you gift I will send them a bottle of Andre cold duck-take it or leave it.
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Old 6 June 2021, 05:39 AM   #75
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Laughable.
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Old 6 June 2021, 05:55 AM   #76
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What a fun thread to read, lol!
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Old 6 June 2021, 06:01 AM   #77
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I predicted these vetting policies on another forum long before TRF even existed and was ridiculed as being "impossible".

When I was a young Fleetlord I was exposed to much snobbery and condescending jibber jabber from AD staff while I was shopping for watches. Stuff that would certainly create multiple "triggered" threads nowadays on TRF. (Much nastier than not getting a cold Diet Coke in a fine glass)...But I didn't particularly mind...I saw it as theater in a way, but I did notice that for all the pomp and circumstance..for all the bombastic snobbery...I could buy pretty much buy whatever I wanted to..as long as I had the money. What was the point of all the exclusionary behavior and tactics? It was a weird dynamic.

So I noticed it was a total mismatch. If Rolex was wanting to move upscale, promote a luxury image far removed from their tool watch origins...they sold these watches to any plebeian. The dealers acted like snots, the brand promoted an exclusive image for the well heeled...but it felt like a fraud. When the rubber hit the road, they really had tons and tons of watches on display and any ole'plebeian who saved up in their piggy bank could get one...

I envisioned a day when dealers would vet the purchaser to make certain they were noble enough to acquire Rolex and their would be different levels of nobility..and the product offering would be far less available...

Now whether dealers would do this under the directive of Rolex HQ or take it upon themselves, I didn't quite sort that out during my prognostication, but I just knew something was going to happen to level up the attitude with the distribution...and here we are.

Will this catch on? Will this fade out? Time will tell..but more and more money is being distributed in unforeseen ways than ever before..and that money WANTS ROLEX..but only so many people can obtain one due to production and distribution limitations...it seems like "vetting" processes for the dealers are the likely path forward to maximize their profitability and protect their interests..
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Old 6 June 2021, 06:03 AM   #78
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That ADs game sounds like a hamster wheel. I'd get off asap. You'd be better off going grey again, hate to say it but it's true.

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agreed and I love to say it — grays are more reliable and honest sellers generally than ADs. What buys from an AD anymore? Wait for 2 years to save a few bucks? LMfAO.


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Old 6 June 2021, 06:04 AM   #79
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AD recently asked me to provide a fecal sample. And I gladly gave it.


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Old 6 June 2021, 06:05 AM   #80
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Vetting, qualifying, and background checking is part of the customer screening process. Some ADs do it differently and/or better than others.

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Members mock you for saying this on here, but it absolutely happens. My one AD purchase the guy straight up told me he had to do some research and found something out about me you'd only get from Google. Honestly didn't bother me at all since it got me the watch I wanted.
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Old 6 June 2021, 06:20 AM   #81
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I think it’s a good policy to prevent flippers. Honestly, all ADs need to stop flippers as best they can.
Assuming that is the purpose for it...which is up for debate.

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Old 6 June 2021, 06:27 AM   #82
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England has always been a very wild country with specific social rules. You need to drink a good tea and think about whether such a trick is acceptable to you. For me it is not, and the question of the questionnaire to be completed - well ...
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Old 6 June 2021, 06:33 AM   #83
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Because otherwise we can’t start incoming threads showing the same watch just on different wrists 😉
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Old 6 June 2021, 06:37 AM   #84
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Members mock you for saying this on here, but it absolutely happens. My one AD purchase the guy straight up told me he had to do some research and found something out about me you'd only get from Google. Honestly didn't bother me at all since it got me the watch I wanted.
Mocked by those who don’t understand LUXURY SALES.

From one of my most famous threads...

Any good salesperson is going to want to qualify or vet you - whether you are in a watch/jewelry store, furniture store, or car dealership.

At a Rolex AD...

They look at how you're groomed and dressed, how you talk, what watch you're wearing.

They ask you some questions:

What brings you in?
Do you live close by?
Where do you work? OR What do you do?
Are you celebrating something special?
What watches do you currently have? Where did you buy them?
What kind of watches are next for you?
How many pieces do you plan to have? Over what timeframe?
Do you have a price range?
Does type of jewelry does your wife wear?
... There are 10-20 more things the SA can ask to find out more about you and your intentions.

When you leave, it takes five minutes to pull up your FB, LinkedIn, Instagram, etc., background check you, verify key elements of your story, and make an initial determination whether you make it to the next round.
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Old 6 June 2021, 06:47 AM   #85
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agreed and I love to say it — grays are more reliable and honest sellers generally than ADs. What buys from an AD anymore? Wait for 2 years to save a few bucks? LMfAO.


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Paying double for a BLNR from the grey dealer is also what clowns do
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Old 6 June 2021, 06:54 AM   #86
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I’m not sure this is right. On what legal basis is the company collecting and holding personal data in the process of conducting their business. If they are collecting personal data, I assume they are making the individual’s rights (regards the collection and retention of data) clear under the various data protection law and regulations? Does seem like a minefield to me.
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Old 6 June 2021, 06:54 AM   #87
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AP Boutique have same policy with new customer….. so nothing new
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Old 6 June 2021, 06:58 AM   #88
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Batman is a great watch, definitely # 1 in my collection. Is it worth some sacrifices and inconveniences? It depends on how you define the boundary, at which point, instead of the client, you become a penent who has to prove that he deserves appropriate treatment.
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Old 6 June 2021, 06:59 AM   #89
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Next up, college admissions-type essays, or “Why I want a Rolex.”

This in turn will create new jobs, of essay coaches, for those seeking Daytonas.
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Old 6 June 2021, 07:02 AM   #90
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This wouldn’t bother me much... Some Patek AD’s do this. They want to better understand their customers, and protect their interests. Plus it’s a chance to sell yourself. Everyone has an opinion but to me, this would be no biggie.
Agree. No big deal to me as well, Ferrari has been vetting customers for years. If you don't like the game, don't play.
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