What is the perfect submariner?

[Driver8]

Originally Posted by Finslayer83

I'm in process on making the "perfect" sub for me out of a 124060 at the moment.

It's about to get completely brushed and hopefully things fall into place to matte the ceramic bezel.

I've even challenged the outfit to drill the lugs

Bringing tool watch back

We're DEFINITELY going to need some pictures of that one when it's done!

[Brny11]

Originally Posted by Finslayer83

What a great pair.

Amazing pair and without the mag is a bold move!!

I must have been on something last night! To make it clear, there is not a sub I dislike! I own a 116610ln, despite it being IMO one of the “worst” looking subs ever made, still one of my favorite watches out there.

I wouldn’t trade it for the world (maybe for a 126610lv).

[Brny11]

Originally Posted by Andad

I like my $20 'Timex' with the funny green bezel Jeff.

To be fair to that post, I see what he means. Maybe just not articulated very well. The 16610 is by NO means cheap. Just might feel that way if you are used to the bracelet of a modern era sub. However… a modern Daytona ($40k grey) is a far superior watch when compared to Paul Newman’s Paul Newman ($18M grey lol).

A lot more to watches than the technical capabilities on paper. 16610lv is one of the classics.

[BroncoOne]

The one that you can buy at MSRP

[karteo]

16610 lug holes. Perfection. For some extra colour put on a green LV bezel like I did, in a five minutes mod


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[HiBoost]

Originally Posted by Andad

I like my $20 'Timex' with the funny green bezel Jeff.

I *love* that watch. And as I said, its green beats to new one in my book. And being one of the last 5 digits it certainly has a better bracelet, though still not as robust as the newer ones. But you can't honestly tell me that you think an oyster bracelet from the 70s or 80s exudes the level of quality that most of us associate with this brand. Charming, perhaps. Bulletproof, no.

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[IR201]

I didn’t realize we were designing here:

I would do the following:

5 series lines
14060m dial
16610 thickness
Ceramic of 11 and 12
AR coating of the 12 series
11 series bracelet BUT
New GMT style clasp (but all brushed)

The easy link with the three adjusts is good enough for me to reduce the bulk


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[Seddyspaghetti]

41mm for me.

[Finslayer83]

Originally Posted by Brny11

Amazing pair and without the mag is a bold move!!

I must have been on something last night! To make it clear, there is not a sub I dislike! I own a 116610ln, despite it being IMO one of the “worst” looking subs ever made, still one of my favorite watches out there.

I wouldn’t trade it for the world (maybe for a 126610lv).

Flame-suit on but to paraphrase a poster here years ago:

"The cyclops is the panty line of Rolex"

[Finslayer83]

Originally Posted by Number3

Wow! Can’t wait to see this.

Drilled lugs won't happen due to case availability, I respect that from the shop(s) who I've asked for quotes.

The full brushing is 100% going to happen. I did it myself with Bergeon wheels on the 16610, but I'm going to send this one off.

HATE the bling.

[alphadweller]

If I had to pick a black Sub, I'd personally go with the latest 124060. You get modern improvements (ceramic, higher shock resistance, stronger anti-magnetism, longer power reserve) with a classic design reminiscent of the 5 digits models. AR coating under the crystal is the cherry on the cake. Best of both worlds. The only minus is the larger clasp, IMHO.

[Goodwill63]

Either the 126610 or for me, the SD 16600: it's the perfect diver imho.

[Finslayer83]

Originally Posted by alphadweller

If I had to pick a black Sub, I'd personally go with the latest 124060. You get modern improvements (ceramic, higher shock resistance, stronger anti-magnetism, longer power reserve) with a classic design reminiscent of the 5 digits models. AR coating under the crystal is the cherry on the cake. Best of both worlds. The only minus is the larger clasp, IMHO.

IMO the AR is tied with case/lug changes as best thing about the 41's.

LONG overdue for the Sub, Omega and IWC have been nailing it for years. That said keep it on the underside and not dual AR.

[Oxfordian]

My Submariner 41 is the most perfect variant, well it is to me, it’s the only one I’ve got.

At the moment.

[saxo3]

1680 and 14060M

[iTreelex]

The best submariner is a 1680 with lume dial

[tone024]

16610 i bought over the newer ceramic versions. Anytime i saw a sub in a pic that i liked, it always turned out to be the 16610. I tried on the newest LV and liked it alot too

[gdu]

124060. Prefer everything about it over the previous gen (which was the best until this release).

[Mendota]

Originally Posted by Finslayer83

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That said I'm in process on making the "perfect" sub for me out of a 124060 at the moment.

It's about to get completely brushed and hopefully things fall into place to matte the ceramic bezel.

I've even challenged the outfit to drill the lugs

Bringing tool watch back

That sounds like a cool project. Please post some pics of it when you are finished with it.

[mike morris]

my submariner perfect for me .

[Steph-paul]

14160 M for me, I prefer the look
However all Subs are great and dependable watches 4,5,6 digits.

[fania123]

This one for me.

[vette boy 52]

I have owned a few Submariners in my collecting endeavor. 4,5,and 6 digit references. but I believe my latest acquisition is the perfect Submariner and that is the 124060. Rolex hit a grand slam with this one.

[Big Tex Rolex]

Originally Posted by dextroam11

I have never seen a submariner in person.

So for TRF members who have seen different references of submariners...

Which reference is the perfect submariner for you? (don't care about the color.. Let's just compare no-date sub for example)

I have been watching many videos of comparing no-date 114060, 124060, and even 5-digit reference ones. Everything has it's pros/cons but what do you guys think?

Which is the perfect (or near-perfect) submariner for ya?

An excerpt from a great article, on line, titled ... "The Last of the Best? The Rolex Submariner 14060"

Rolex Submariner 14060: The Last Of The Best?

Are the ref. 14060 and the ref. 14060M the absolute best of both worlds when it comes to the Rolex Submariner? There are certainly plenty of points in their favor.

Each preserves the iconic shape of the great vintage references of the past. Each has the classic dial uncluttered by date windows and magnifying lenses, yet both also contain modern movements, with the sort of bombproof reliability upon which Rolex has long built its internationally-renowned reputation. In fact, the movement in the ref. 14060M is the same one that powered the no-date Submariner all the way up until it (along with the date-displaying Caliber 3135) was officially retired from the Submariner collection in 2020.

Coupled with that is the patina-attracting bezel, something that will continue to set each individual watch apart as time goes on, and perhaps best of all, Rolex Submariner 14060 watches are still some of the most attainable examples of Rolex’s legendary dive watch that are available on the pre-owned market today. Entry into the ‘last of the best’ club starts at around $9,500 to $11,500 and due to the model’s long production period, examples are often readily available on the pre-owned market.

With a history going back over six decades, each reference of the Rolex Submariner is a true masterpiece. As such, there is no such thing as choosing the ‘wrong’ model. But for all-around versatility, the iconic reference 14060 represents the link between old and new, and it is in a league of its own.

[Meyrin]

Originally Posted by subprimero

My pick is the almost vintage 14060.

My pick too! I've been wearing my 14060 for over 25 years now. Perfect for me!

[Finslayer83]

Originally Posted by Mendota

That sounds like a cool project. Please post some pics of it when you are finished with it.

Will do for sure.

[Dazthebeard]

4 liner 14060M for me. Perfect dimensions


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[B2 Stealth]

Appreciate all Submariners! My first Rolex was purchased in 2017. Ceramic bezel is nice. As much as a Tool watch as I can make it considering my pampered life. Not sloshing thru the jungles of Vietnam with it like my proud brethren did before me wearing one.

[NachoNeal]

Not sure which one is the "best". They're all pretty nice. Especially the ones without dates.

[zab]

124060 is perfection for me.