How Rolex and Ferrari are the same...

[Cryptochonos1]

Yes it kinda does sound like Rolex

[Cryptochonos1]

Crazy though about the “official events” and enthusiasm that you need to buy one new, but that’s how they keep the brand out of reach and desirable

[edisonstar23]

Such a controversial thread! I do agree with some of the member that comparing Ferrari to Rolex is a stretch. Rolex is more like a BMW - not like a Toyota like someone mentioned.

I think the business model during current times may have similarities to the likes of Hermes. However, I don’t think this is purposely done by Rolex to position their brand. There is a serious economic problem (supply chain and inflation) that led many things to go wild (cars, lumber, metal, etc.) I don’t think all those industries and businesses are turning down business because they want to position their brand any higher or nothing like that.


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[rambo99]

ferrari = rolex
mercedes = omega
maclaren = ap
Lamborghini = pp

[aayates]

Rolex QC is better than Ferrarri's. However, the Ferrarri brand has so much history and is marketed so well that customers brag about their break-downs and what's required to service the cars. Weird love IMHO.

[greywolf617]

Ferrari, Hermes, and Rolex sell collections, not individual models.

Typically...
Ferrari owners have more than one Ferrari
Hermes owners have more than one Hermes
Rolex owners have more than one Rolex

These are products people collect, not necessarily use. Unfortunately, many Ferraris are destined to climate-controlled garages, never to be driven. Just like many Rolexes are destined to vaults, never to be worn.

[thenewrick]

Rolex=Porsche
Tudor=VW
Patek=Ferrari
Lange=Pagani
Panerai=Lamborghini
Omega=BMW
JLC=Mercedes
Vacheron=Aston Martin
AP=McLaren
Breitling=Lotus
Breguet=Alfa Romeo
Blancpain=Citroen
IWC=GM
Hamilton=Ford
Longines=Peugeot
Piaget=Fiat
Cartier=Bugatti
Richard Mille=Koenigsegg
Seiko=Toyota
Grand Seiko=Lexus
Citizen=Honda
Casio=Nissan
Orient=Mazda
Ulysse Nardin=Lincoln
Sinn=Land Rover
Oris=Kia
TAG=Mitsubishi
Zenith=Jaguar
NOMOS=Morgan
GShock=Jeep
Hublot=Cadillac

[7enderbender]

Originally Posted by GSDLover

Most have two types of shifting. Auto and paddle. I find my paddle shift very engaging.

I hate it. It’s still auto and I feel lack of control over what the car does. And yes I know it’s technically “better” and all and it rightly has a place in actual racing. Just not fun for me. It’s like having a quartz Seiko. Technically better…

[tgyberg]

Originally Posted by 7enderbender

More of a BMW and Porsche guy. Currently very much enjoying my last of its kind manual transmission Beamer.

Right there with ya!

[arche3]

Originally Posted by thenewrick

Rolex=Porsche
Tudor=VW
Patek=Ferrari
Lange=Pagani
Panerai=Lamborghini
Omega=BMW
JLC=Mercedes
Vacheron=Aston Martin
AP=McLaren
Breitling=Lotus
Breguet=Alfa Romeo
Blancpain=Citroen
IWC=GM
Hamilton=Ford
Longines=Peugeot
Piaget=Fiat
Cartier=Bugatti
Richard Mille=Koenigsegg
Seiko=Toyota
Grand Seiko=Lexus
Citizen=Honda
Casio=Nissan
Orient=Mazda
Ulysse Nardin=Lincoln
Sinn=Land Rover
Oris=Kia
TAG=Mitsubishi
Zenith=Jaguar
NOMOS=Morgan
GShock=Jeep
Hublot=Cadillac

What about a Tesla model s plaid?

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[huncho]

Originally Posted by thenewrick

Rolex=Porsche
Tudor=VW
Patek=Ferrari
Lange=Pagani
Panerai=Lamborghini
Omega=BMW
JLC=Mercedes
Vacheron=Aston Martin
AP=McLaren
Breitling=Lotus
Breguet=Alfa Romeo
Blancpain=Citroen
IWC=GM
Hamilton=Ford
Longines=Peugeot
Piaget=Fiat
Cartier=Bugatti
Richard Mille=Koenigsegg
Seiko=Toyota
Grand Seiko=Lexus
Citizen=Honda
Casio=Nissan
Orient=Mazda
Ulysse Nardin=Lincoln
Sinn=Land Rover
Oris=Kia
TAG=Mitsubishi
Zenith=Jaguar
NOMOS=Morgan
GShock=Jeep
Hublot=Cadillac

comparing lamborghini to panerai is a straight up insult lol. AP = lamborghini imo, especially since mclaren doesn't really have an identity whereas AP does, but these comparisons are obviously very subjective

[1st amg]

Originally Posted by arche3

What about a Tesla model s plaid?

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That would be an Apple Watch…..has no heart and nothing mechanical about it…but it does lots of cool things.


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[Boaters]

Originally Posted by Feb_29

I have both Rolex and Ferrari. Don't need to wait.

All I can say is lucky you..

[thenewrick]

Originally Posted by huncho

comparing lamborghini to panerai is a straight up insult lol. AP = lamborghini imo, especially since mclaren doesn't really have an identity whereas AP does, but these comparisons are obviously very subjective

Both are bold Italian style statements first and foremost

Accutron=Tesla

I’d say Teslas have style and personality and more than a tool. Apple Watch would be fine. But Accutron is more fun.

I think the autonomous people mover vehicle from Apple will be the Apple Watch

[eijiboy]

Originally Posted by chet

This.

I have a Ferrari and an 812 GTS that just arrived in NJ from Italy--it should be to my dealer in Chicago in a week or two. I also have placed a deposit for a third which hasn't been officially announced yet--296 GTS.

Anyone wanting to order a regular production model in the last 5 years could have done so by visiting a dealer, choosing a model and placing a deposit. Depending on the model, it might have taken 6-24 months to get the car. Now, however, nothing new will be delivered for a minimum of ~36 months if ordered today.

Believe it or not, Ferrari dealers want to sell more regular production models because it gets them a higher allocation of the limited editions. And yes, they reward their best customers with limited edition allocations.

Is f8 tributo a regular production model? can i come to the dealer and order one for myself without prior purchase?

[Dr Z]

Originally Posted by eijiboy

Is f8 tributo a regular production model? can i come to the dealer and order one for myself without prior purchase?

The F8 is a regular production model…the last V8 Ferrari…
Unfortunately you cannot order one now..the order books were closed a few months ago…and F8 production will cease second quarter 2022…

[ArtNouveau]

Originally Posted by HideMyWalletPlease

The people that own them don’t drive them that much either.

Just joking!

Full disclosure, I love Ferraris.

Don’t know how connected/aware you are in the Houston car scene but…there’s a well known guy who lives in River Oaks that has the coolest collection I think. He has all the Ferrari special cars ala F40, F50, Enzo, LaFerrari, etc, but also a Pagani and several McLarens. His crown jewel is an F1 originally owned by Mansour Ojjeh, the financier of the project as CEO of the Heuer Group.
He drives them all, he came up to Cars and Coffee one time in the F1, no clearbra and rock chips on its nose. He has participated with it in several 106OwnersGroup rallies around the world, has around 20K+ miles on it.

[mfserge]

As the proud owner of a LaFerrari (die cast model) I can say it’s quite easy to obtain said Ferrari. No wait lists, no grey market, just a credit card and two day shipping.

[watchaser]

UNLESS you are referring to a specific allocation IE a Pista, La Ferrari than yes. Having owned a 488 and 458 purchased from a Ferrari dealer as a first time buyer, I have to disagree with ALL your points .

[Santiago32]

Originally Posted by thenewrick

Rolex=Porsche
Tudor=VW
Patek=Ferrari
Lange=Pagani
Panerai=Lamborghini
Omega=BMW
JLC=Mercedes
Vacheron=Aston Martin
AP=McLaren
Breitling=Lotus
Breguet=Alfa Romeo
Blancpain=Citroen
IWC=GM
Hamilton=Ford
Longines=Peugeot
Piaget=Fiat
Cartier=Bugatti
Richard Mille=Koenigsegg
Seiko=Toyota
Grand Seiko=Lexus
Citizen=Honda
Casio=Nissan
Orient=Mazda
Ulysse Nardin=Lincoln
Sinn=Land Rover
Oris=Kia
TAG=Mitsubishi
Zenith=Jaguar
NOMOS=Morgan
GShock=Jeep
Hublot=Cadillac

You lost me at Panerai = Lamborghini


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[Tanuki]

Originally Posted by 1st amg

That would be an Apple Watch…..has no heart and nothing mechanical about it…but it does lots of cool things.


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Exactly! The one I don't understand is IWC is not = GM??? I think IWC=Bentley

[eijiboy]

Originally Posted by watchaser

UNLESS you are referring to a specific allocation IE a Pista, La Ferrari than yes. Having owned a 488 and 458 purchased from a Ferrari dealer as a first time buyer, I have to disagree with ALL your points .

You order 488 and 458,without prior purchase? How long did youbwait for the 488 when you order it?.


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[daveswordfish]

Originally Posted by Sherpa23

Wow. There is so much BS in this that I don't know where to start.

This is a lot of old wives tales and urban legend that you're posting here. Have you tried to go out local dealer and order a Ferrari? As long as you're not asking to buy some special limited models but one of the many production models, they will most likely sell you one.

I would like to think that I'm fairly qualified on this as I have four Ferraris and have been on the national board of the Ferrari Club of America for years until I termed out. I have been invited to the factory on several occasions (and went) and even spec’d out a couple of cars while there. I have also had a good many other reasonable interactions with many people there through a variety of other events.

They will sell just about any qualified person a new production model, provided that person will put down a deposit and wait all the time it takes for their car to be built. After the sale, would like for you to give the dealership a chance to buy the car back if you decide to sell it. If someone plays games with the dealership or irritates them, the dealership (just like your local coffee or sandwich shop might do) may not want your business again. It’s a very easy world to navigate where courtesy, good manners, and common sense go a long way.

I'm less qualified to reflect on how Rolex works. I do have three Rolexes but all were bought on the secondary market. Rolex doesn't seem to give dealers watches to sell, at least from what I have seen. I have tried a million times to buy watches at list and I'm not successful because the dealers all tell me that they don't have inventory to sell. So I buy used, which isn't always what I want but I'm happy to get the watches that I want, even though it's not my name on the warranty card.

Anyways, I think the two companies operate quite differently.

Love this. Great post.


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[daveswordfish]

Originally Posted by Feb_29

I have both Rolex and Ferrari. Don't need to wait.

LOL….thank you!


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[1st amg]

Originally Posted by eijiboy

You order 488 and 458,without prior purchase? How long did youbwait for the 488 when you order it?.


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For those cars it was a 12 to 18 months wait
Now ordering an F8 is about 18 to 22 months. As said previously, if you do not have your allocation confirmed for the F8, you can no longer get one. They are done once the fulfill the current orders.

[Ubiquitous1984]

Rolex is not in the same league as Ferrari. You can buy a new rolex for less than £5K. Good luck getting a new Ferrari for less than £150K.

[GSDLover]

Originally Posted by Ubiquitous1984

Rolex is not in the same league as Ferrari. You can buy a new rolex for less than £5K. Good luck getting a new Ferrari for less than £150K.

HA! Try $350,000

[arche3]

Rolex is not Ferrari. I uses to have a Lamborghini and I always thought Ferrari was over Lamborghini. Easier to get a Lamborghini imo. But I drive a couple Tesla's now so I am out of the whole car thing. I just ordered them online and they show up. Lol.

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[thenewrick]

Originally Posted by Tanuki

Exactly! The one I don't understand is IWC is not = GM??? I think IWC=Bentley

My thinking was IWC was classic American. Huge volume manufacturer. Ww2 and military connections. Still making good quality utilitarian products without many frills or fuss. Good movements. Lots of “all American” ambassadors.

There’s a method to my madness.

And I stand by my Panerai=Lamborghini. Both also started out utilitarian and moved into style/luxury.

[jaychief]

Agree Porsche = Ferrari


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