what's the deal with Tudor's

[Swearengen]

The OP doesn't seem to know what the shift key is for either.

Originally Posted by Stud Screw

OP has a right to his own opinion.

He does not, however, have a right to his own grammar.

[Dhiren]

Originally Posted by padi56

Well first its clear you have to real knowledge on the Tudor brand so I will try and educate you if thats possible, and help you understand why people buy Tudor watches.Some with no Tudor/Rolex knowledge call Tudor a poor mans watch,which most definitely is not, the Tudor line go way back to the early 1920s then mainly sold then in Canada and Europe. No Rolex or Tudor watches were even sold then in the USA, it was very much later the the Rolex brand arrived for sale in the USA in mid 1940s. Hans Wilsdorf from the RWC first opened Tudor watch to world wide production in 1946. And one of the main reasons why he chose the brand name Tudor, was that he wanted to pay tribute to the Tudor history period of old England UK.

The Tudor line prior to around 1990 was all Rolex except for movement, Tudor watches are made by Rolex. The major difference between a Tudor and a Rolex is that Rolex contracted the manufacturing of the movement out to a 3rd party manufacturer (ETA in 95% of them) but now today many modern day Tudors do have a in-house made movement. Much like Rolex did with there chrongraphs before 2000 they used ETA Valjoux and Zenith movements. The ETA ebauche movements were made to Rolex's specifications and signed Tudor and are top grade chronometer movements . This movement was then sent to Rolex where it was assembled into a watch with all Rolex remaining parts (Rolex case, bezel, strap or bracelet, dial, crystal and crown, seals, etc.). These parts are the same parts used in the Rolex line of watches up till around 1990. The older Tudor movements were high grade 17, 21, 25, or 26 jewel Automatic or Manual chronometer grade movements which when correctly cleaned, timed, and oiled, will keep time almost as well as any normal Rolex. Tudor now have many new models with many now with in-house made movements, and in many ways released more real 100% new models than Rolex.

The case screw backs were engraved original oyster case by Rolex, on all the oyster models. In the gold or TT models Tudor uses genuine solid gold Rolex bezels and crown caps, but their bracelets are normally only gold filled, to reduce the cost while Rolex uses solid gold in their bracelets. The French Navy (among others) opted for the Tudor Submariner watches, instead of the Rolex Subs, the French Navy demanded rigorous testing and tested several brands. These watches were tested to carefully calibrated abusive tests in an attempt to destroy them to see how much abuse it could take before losing accuracy or malfunctioning .After testing they choose the Tudor and the only thing the French navy didn't order was the Oyster bracelets. They chose a nylon strap because it would be much more easy to change, and easily replaced if broken. And today the only step down in quality with Tudor watches in general is the price. The the main difference between a Rolex Sub and say a Tudor Sub is they used a top range Chronometer grade ETA a first class all in-house built movement but not Rolex made, and in watches like the Tudor Prince they used a light Oyster bracelet, on Subs they used the heavy Oyster bracelet. Now today the Tudor line has quite a long high heritage with Hans Wilsdorf the founder of Rolex.

In today's market quite a few vintage Tudor watches command higher prices than there Rolex brothers same could be said for Rolex, many of the most collectable Rolex don't even have a Rolex made movement in there cases but ones from ETA Valjoux and Zenith .The Tudor line are still made in the same now highly automated factory as Rolex, Tudor are still a very important part of the Rolex history and are great watches in there own right.

Thanks Padi very informative and interesting to note.
I bought my first Tudor in San Diego in 2015 the BB with the Maroon Bezel and the ETA mechanism.
Runs perfectly till today. Fell in love with it at first sight


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[Ramona]

Originally Posted by 6XYBE63ST

i find no redeeming qualities with tudors. what drives people to buy them?why oh why? please help me understand why people would waste their money on a Tudor....

LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME I NEED ATTENTION

Do you think Patek owners have the same conversation about Rolex? Let people buy what they want and don't gatekeep watch ownership and enjoyment.

[mountainjogger]

Originally Posted by 6XYBE63ST

i find no redeeming qualities with tudors. what drives people to buy them?why oh why? please help me understand why people would waste their money on a Tudor....

How many Tudors have you owned?

[Wahlberg]

Originally Posted by 6XYBE63ST

i find no redeeming qualities with tudors. what drives people to buy them?why oh why? please help me understand why people would waste their money on a Tudor....

Dude is messing with everyone.

It's a watch, it tells the time, it ticks, that's it. It can get wet as well. What more do you need.

[Dhiren]

Originally Posted by Wahlberg

Dude is messing with everyone.

It's a watch, it tells the time, it ticks, that's it. It can get wet as well. What more do you need.

ROFL


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[grimps]

I own 20+ Rolex but I can honestly say my conversations with Tudor owners are always more interesting and the Tudor owners more knowledgeable than their Rolex counterparts

[NachoNeal]

Originally Posted by grimps

I own 20+ Rolex but I can honestly say my conversations with Tudor owners are always more interesting and the Tudor owners more knowledgeable than their Rolex counterparts

Given the typical type of person that owns a rolex (present TRF company excluded), your statement can surprise no one.

[Krash]

Originally Posted by grimps

I own 20+ Rolex but I can honestly say my conversations with Tudor owners are always more interesting and the Tudor owners more knowledgeable than their Rolex counterparts

These types of posts always crack me up.

“Tudor owners are more knowledgeable than their Rolex counterparts”

How can anyone quantify such a statement? There is just no way to scientifically validate that.


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[grimps]

Originally Posted by Krash

These types of posts always crack me up.

“Tudor owners are more knowledgeable than their Rolex counterparts”

How can anyone quantify such a statement? There is just no way to scientifically validate that.


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Well I did say it was from my conversations

[CB66]

The OP displays the mentality of a 10 year old boy. I think this thread says more about the OP than Tudor.

[Know1isgod]

My BB58 gets more notice/compliments than my DJ 41 Wimbledon (Fluted/Jubilee). Still not understanding why.....

[watchwatcher]

Got a feeling you won't be around much longer - hopefully, anyway - so I'll say my good-byes now.

[Saransh]

bang for buck is crazy just look at the bb 58 i have ordered mine 2 weeks ago. and tbh more excited about that watch than I was with my Cermit and I know aswel imma change my daily to the bb58 instead of my gmt master 2 ln. its size and look and even heritage is so amazing.

[Dan Pierce]

What makes Tudor special is they pi$$ off just the right people.
dP

[samson66]

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

What makes Tudor special is they pi$$ off just the right people.
dP

Ha! So true

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[amh]

OP is likely just trolling.

But I don't care for the appearance either. Tudor has been deliberately neutered:
- Snowflake overused
- Cases thicker than necessary
- Faux rivets
- Faux 'patina'
- Dial stack is very wide/thick for some reason.... about 2x the width of any Rolex. Now I can't unsee it! (Only the Pelagos and 'Pro' model have the stack blacked out and makes it less visible)

Look at the center, the circle formed in the middle. Is it because Tudor uses overly wide/fat hands? Don't know, but on a Rolex they're tapered toward the center rather than being fat all the way. Odd.

Not attracted to Omega either FWIW although the movements are great. But... I'm not looking at the movement all day long!

Just an opinion, I already know where to shove it! (ha ha )

Tudor Stack



Rolex Stack

[DJ2020]

Originally Posted by amh

OP is likely just trolling.

But I don't care for the appearance either. Tudor has been deliberately neutered:
- Snowflake overused
- Cases thicker than necessary
- Faux rivets
- Faux 'patina'
- Dial stack is very wide/thick for some reason.... about 2x the width of any Rolex. Now I can't unsee it! (Only the Pelagos and 'Pro' model have the stack blacked out and makes it less visible)

Look at the center, the circle formed in the middle. Is it because Tudor uses overly wide/fat hands? Don't know, but on a Rolex they're tapered toward the center rather than being fat all the way. Odd.

Not attracted to Omega either FWIW although the movements are great. But... I'm not looking at the movement all day long!

Just an opinion, I already know where to shove it! (ha ha )

Tudor Stack



Rolex Stack

If Tudor would just change that hideous hour hand on the Black Bays I would definitely buy them again.

[6XYBE63ST]

Originally Posted by DJ2020

If Tudor would just change that hideous hour hand on the Black Bays I would definitely buy them again.

couldn't agree more with this statement....

[Carondelet]

Originally Posted by dan pierce

what makes tudor special is they pi$$ off just the right people.
Dp

+1!

[TimeAZ]

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

What makes Tudor special is they pi$$ off just the right people.
dP

boom goes the dynamite!!

[GGGMT]

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

What makes Tudor special is they pi$$ off just the right people.
dP

Magic just magic!




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[1sttimerolex]

Hmmmmm, the more I look at these pics of Tudor bb58, maybe I should just keep my sub date and add it, instead of trying to swap my sub date for a sub

[1665fan]

BAN the troll…..

[Know1isgod]

I think Tudor's current role is to allow the Wilsdorf foundation to offer product in the $3,000 - $7,000 space without devaluing the Rolex brand. There is money to be made at that price point and Rolex wants their share.

[sski]

i'm hoping for a vintage inspired BB58 GMT with a gilt dial.....if Tudor ever release that, it may outshine the GMT offerings from big brother.

[underpar]

I'm fairly certain that if Tudor were affiliated with TAG Heuer instead of Rolex, that nobody would buy one.

[stevestil]

all i know is my BB58 gets more wrist time than any watch i have, more so than my submariner, CHNR, BLRO, serti dial sub and my omegas.

i love it


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[Ferdelious]

Try one on, you'll change your mind.

[asiparks]

well, why do people buy anything? Because they like it and can afford it, often not more complicated than that.
I mean, some people buy Panerai.......