safe to take our watches to Ibiza ?

[zengineer]

Originally Posted by samson66

My advice to everyone is buy a travel watch. A nice Swiss watch that sits a little below the radar and that you won't have to be thinking about while you're trying to enjoy vacation. Tudor and Grand Seiko are two great examples.

If you have to ask the question, don't take your Rolex...

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Are the Swiss Grand Seikos available on AliExpress?

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[samson66]

Originally Posted by zengineer

Are the Swiss Grand Seikos available on AliExpress?

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LOL I realized that right after I hit "send"

Here is my dedicated travel watch by the way. Love this piece and far and away the most accurate watch I own.



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[AF_Rob]

Originally Posted by Uppersouth

My rule is never wear a recognizable watch in unfamiliar territory.

That’s pretty much my opinion as well.

I frequently travel where I’ve been before. So, I wear Rolex there, generally.

As others have said, a $5k Rolex 10 years ago, is a $10k Rolex now. With a similar principle in mind, I usually take the Seiko or Oris to places where selling my watch can alter a person’s life.


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[MilgaussBe]

Be carefull, they tried rob my dad's Datejust II Wimbledon in Moraira Spain last week. A gypsy woman spoke to him at the gate of our house asking for a job and tried to steal his ring and Rolex. Luckiley he shouted my mom saw it as well and started shouting heavily and she ran off. The ring was already turned and clasped opened by the woman, he widened his hand so she couldn't slip it off.

Luckily nothing worse happend.

Tip don't speak to strangers and run away.

[Meyrin]

I´ve never been to the Spanish islands, but I have been all around Spain! Everywhere except Barcelona felt safe. There's a lot of street crime there, and I had a close call outside a tapas bar some years ago. By asking your question you're obviously a bit worried, so buy yourself and your wife G-Shocks and leave your Rolexes at home. Congrats on paying off your mortgage and enjoy a care-free, Rolex-free holiday!

[jlovda]

Originally Posted by Uppersouth

Losing a watch to theft isn’t that big of deal. With robbery, I don’t think they politely ask for the watch. Likely to be a bit of violence involved. My rule is never wear a recognizable watch in unfamiliar territory.

[scurfa]

https://youtu.be/A-XxOFbBRvg

I saw this and thought of you! I haven’t watched it yet but I thought the title was relevant


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[carwash66]

Originally Posted by Uppersouth

Losing a watch to theft isn’t that big of deal. With robbery, I don’t think they politely ask for the watch. Likely to be a bit of violence involved. My rule is never wear a recognizable watch in unfamiliar territory.

Good advice.
I’ve not ever worried about the monetary loss, however I do
not have another a** hanging up in the closet at home.

[OrangeSport]

You live in Leeds

I would be more worried abou you mugging people than you being mugged!

[Stud Screw]

The loud music might seriously challenge your watches anti-shock properties.

[Deepsea Florida]

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[Number3]

Originally Posted by OrangeSport

You live in Leeds

I would be more worried abou you mugging people than you being mugged!

[The Londonist]

Originally Posted by samson66

My advice to everyone is buy a travel watch….Tudor and Grand Seiko are two great examples.

If I’m not going to take my Rolex, I’m certainly not going to take my Tudor Black Bays as the family/(vintage) Submariner DNA is strong.

Despite being more under the radar than Rolex, others easily recognise BB’s as a luxury watch from the Rolex stable and are thus desirable.

[samson66]

Originally Posted by The Londonist

If I’m not going to take my Rolex, I’m certainly not going to take my Tudor Black Bays as the family/(vintage) Submariner DNA is strong.

Despite being more under the radar than Rolex, others easily recognise BB’s as a luxury watch from the Rolex stable and are thus desirable.

These people aren't stupid. Quite the opposite. They know what a Rolex is specifically. They aren't after watches that are similar or share DNA, they are after watches that can net them the most money as quickly as possible.

A Black Bay may share some lineage with a Submariner, but it is NOT a Submariner. A BB may net them a thousand or two. A Sub will get them $15K. They are well aware of the difference.

Wearing any expensive watch carries some risk with it. But I really don't think you have much to fear wearing a Black Bay in most places tourists travel. A Rolex is a different story.

[The Londonist]

Originally Posted by samson66

These people aren't stupid. Quite the opposite. They know what a Rolex is specifically. They aren't after watches that are similar or share DNA, they are after watches that can net them the most money as quickly as possible.

A Black Bay may share some lineage with a Submariner, but it is NOT a Submariner. A BB may net them a thousand or two. A Sub will get them $15K. They are well aware of the difference.

Wearing any expensive watch carries some risk with it. But I really don't think you have much to fear wearing a Black Bay in most places tourists travel. A Rolex is a different story.

For precious metal Rolexes, I agree that the risk is significant.

Having said that £2-£4,000 for a BB is still a substantial amount. So if it’s the only thing available, it’s at risk.

Just look at the commenters who say iPhones are at risk in Barcelona.

[samson66]

Originally Posted by The Londonist

I don’t quite agree - £2-£4,000 for a BB is still a substantial amount. So if it’s available, it’s at risk.

Sure, and I did/do acknowledge that wearing any watch of value places the wearer at some level of risk. Even an Apple watch can make you a target in some locations. So it's all about assessing the risk where you are. But I think we can all agree that wearing a Rolex right now puts you at a significantly higher risk of assault and theft than would a Black Bay or other mid-tier watches. Rolex carries with it a brand cachet that is matched by only a few very high priced brands out there (Patek, AP, etc.). Everyone in the world knows Rolex and knows what they are worth which makes them an easy watch to steal and re-sell for significant sums of money. We all love Tudor and Grand Seiko. But to most non-WIS they are relative unknowns.

[DBCooper07]

If you wear a watch that looks anything like a Rolex from 20 feet away it's a Rolex to a criminal. People kill for a Seiko. I suggest leave it at home and post lots of travel pics to let people your are not home. Then someone can go in to your home and grab it. The only way to win this game is to buy fake Rollies and the jokes on everyone.

[DBurger]

S7gpt - I've literally just got back from Ibiza.

Stayed in a nice hotel in Santa Eulalia. Rolexes everywhere, every 5th person in the hotel, hotel staff, staff at the beach clubs. Also some seriously expensive PP and APs on the wrists of a few. Both the wife and I wore ours

If you're off clubbing and off your nut in San Antonio, maybe not. But the rest of the island was perfectly fine.

[Soultime]

Originally Posted by DBCooper07

If you wear a watch that looks anything like a Rolex from 20 feet away it's a Rolex to a criminal. People kill for a Seiko. I suggest leave it at home and post lots of travel pics to let people your are not home. Then someone can go in to your home and grab it. The only way to win this game is to buy fake Rollies and the jokes on everyone.

Why would buying a fake 'Rollie' win the game?

You still get attacked / mugged - but feel even worse after as you know that it was all for something worth Jack all.
All that grief for next to nothing.

I don't get how that's a 'win'.

[WilsdorfNDavis]

Originally Posted by DBCooper07

If you wear a watch that looks anything like a Rolex from 20 feet away it's a Rolex to a criminal. People kill for a Seiko. I suggest leave it at home and post lots of travel pics to let people your are not home. Then someone can go in to your home and grab it. The only way to win this game is to buy fake Rollies and the jokes on everyone.

That is, by far, the dumbest thing I've read on TRF today.


You say criminals will attack you for anything that "looks like a Rolex from 20 feet away" and that they will even kill for a lowly Seiko so you suggest that they go out a buy a fake watch that is imitating the exact thing you are telling people to leave at home!

[Soultime]

Originally Posted by WilsdorfNDavis

That is, by far, the dumbest thing I've read on TRF today.


You say criminals will attack you for anything that "looks like a Rolex from 20 feet away" and that they will even kill for a lowly Seiko so you suggest that they go out a buy a fake watch that is imitating the exact thing you are telling people to leave at home!

It's a very cunning plan!

With high inflation and the cost of living crisis, it allows the average working man the chance to get mugged at a very reasonable cost.

No need to splash out at Rolex prices to get turned over. Get the same result for only a fraction of the money!

Now if I could only decipher the bit about posting pictures while away on holiday to avoid getting robbed at home......??

Box and papers Bro!

[beshannon]

Originally Posted by DBCooper07

If you wear a watch that looks anything like a Rolex from 20 feet away it's a Rolex to a criminal. People kill for a Seiko. I suggest leave it at home and post lots of travel pics to let people your are not home. Then someone can go in to your home and grab it. The only way to win this game is to buy fake Rollies and the jokes on everyone.

QFT

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by beshannon

QFT

This one definitely could be mistaken by a "drive by" thug ... guess I won't wear it out of the house either



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[Soultime]

And right on cue, this story appears in my local paper about an ex Man City footballer getting mugged for his Datejust in San Antonio, Ibiza last week.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...rolex-24333723

That said, the same edition also has this story about 2 people getting mugged for their watches (1 Rolex / 1 worth £182k!) where I Iive.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...d-man-24319106

[Thuilln]

If you’re asking then it’s probably not.

[TheVTCGuy]

The only place I wear my Rolex is in my home inside a locked closet

[S7gpt]

Originally Posted by DBurger

S7gpt - I've literally just got back from Ibiza.

Stayed in a nice hotel in Santa Eulalia. Rolexes everywhere, every 5th person in the hotel, hotel staff, staff at the beach clubs. Also some seriously expensive PP and APs on the wrists of a few. Both the wife and I wore ours

If you're off clubbing and off your nut in San Antonio, maybe not. But the rest of the island was perfectly fine.

Funny, we did go last week and both took our watches. we stayed in playa d en bosa and like you saw loads wearing Rolex, some fake but lots real. we did travel to ibiza town and San Antonio and no problems at all.

thanks everyone for responses, in the end we just thought be careful but if we can't enjoy them whats the point of having them

[TNT009]

Use common sense!

[BNA/LION]

I believe you can find your answer somewhere in this thread.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=471941

[padi56]

Originally Posted by mountainjogger

Congrats on your last mortgage payment. If you are worried about (and you seem to be) don't wear it. Focus on having a good time instead.

Have to agree last thing on my mind would be any watch.