ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX
19 October 2022, 04:41 PM | #61 | |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: India
Posts: 518
|
Quote:
+1 Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro |
|
19 October 2022, 04:46 PM | #62 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Nov 2019
Real Name: Jim
Location: UTC/GMT -7 hours
Posts: 1,673
|
Cut supply. Focus on quality and servicing.
__________________
instagram: santiagowatchcollector |
19 October 2022, 09:51 PM | #63 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
Real Name: Scott
Location: UK
Watch: ^^^ for now
Posts: 5,797
|
__________________
Past: 6239 (yes, I know...), 16610, 16600, 116515, 116613LN, 126600, 126711 CHNR Present: 16600, 116509, Cartier Santos Green. |
19 October 2022, 10:00 PM | #64 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: East Coast
Watch: 16610
Posts: 4,933
|
I start by addressing its association with conspicuous consumption. The history and robustness of the watch itself has all but been obscured by the symbolic representation of conspicuous consumption, privilege, and hierarchy which has been magnified by social media and the hunger games like fake scarcity that the brand allows to continue. Rolex was a watch that was always expensive but we’re attainable at least the SS models for a while, and they put function first. Somewhere in the early 80’s they began outpacing inflation by a great margin and then with the digits, started making excessively bloated, shiny, blingy caricatures of great references for no other reason than wrist presence for the insta age. They slapped a bit of shine on them and basically doubled the MSRP over about 10- 15 years.
I would start by telling the AD that the allocations will be monitored and tracked and if they don’t stop, they lose their AD, period. 2) stop the excessive bloating and blingy styling and do what tudor is doing, (what Rolex used to do) and at least cease the cost increases for a while. I mean I love Rolex and the history, but really can’t see myself buying one in this modern age. The baggage of it’s association with conspicuous consumption and run away capitalism makes me almost embarrassed to wear it these days. It’s basically become the official watch of celebs and oligarchs. I recall being on vacation recently and looking around and seeing like 20-25 and almost thinking about it feeling embarrassed. I saw one fellow with a GS and I thought that’s a fellow that loves watches. I don’t have an answer for exactly what Rolex can do, here. I mean it’s happening with PP too and they know it. The craftsmanship getting obscured by hype. Perhaps they are both victims of their own success and perhaps in a day and age where very few of us need these to tell time, perhaps the only direction they can go. |
19 October 2022, 10:07 PM | #65 | |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
Real Name: Scott
Location: UK
Watch: ^^^ for now
Posts: 5,797
|
Quote:
All that being at max capacity and being sold out indicates is that demand exceeds supply. Its no indicator of efficiency or profitability.
__________________
Past: 6239 (yes, I know...), 16610, 16600, 116515, 116613LN, 126600, 126711 CHNR Present: 16600, 116509, Cartier Santos Green. |
|
19 October 2022, 10:42 PM | #66 |
2024 Pledge Member
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Somewhere Cold
Posts: 907
|
Glad this is hypothetical, as most of these ideas would ruin the brand.
__________________
Rolex GMT Master II 116710LN Rolex Sea-Dweller 16600 Rolex Explorer 224270 Rolex Explorer II 226570 Polar Omega Moonwatch Sapphire Sandwich Panerai PAM00111 2 Factor Authentication |
20 October 2022, 01:01 AM | #67 |
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
Join Date: Oct 2019
Real Name: Ron
Location: Detroitish
Watch: GMT II/Sub/Exp II
Posts: 2,557
|
|
20 October 2022, 01:26 AM | #68 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: NJ
Watch: 224270 Exp I 40mm
Posts: 248
|
Standardize the DJ and OP models to use one case...this would...
- clean & modernize the DJ41 by using the OP41 case (thinner-domed bezel) - increase sportiness of DJs by eliminating polished center links and offering the same brushed case and bracelet as the OP. Offer an option for all models to be available with either integrated leather bands or leather bands with SELs. - offer this option at a lower price point... Offer all bracelets with the glidelock micro adjust Offer two tone GMT, Subs, etc.. models with 2 tone jubilee bracelets Update the Cellini line with a reference that is comparable in thinness as the PP Calatrava with an exhibition caseback...
__________________
♛ Explorer 224270 Ω Moonwatch 3861 Sapphire 🛡️ Black Bay Pro m79470-0001 |
20 October 2022, 01:48 AM | #69 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: MN
Watch: OP36 Blue 3-6-9
Posts: 2,195
|
Yes! For sure. First they would have to go back to the drawing board and redesign their movements used in those pieces because their finishing is subpar, at best, in appearance. There's no real remarkable difference between a $350 ETA 28xx movement and a $3,500 Rolex 31xx movement in appearance alone. Rolex would have to work on everything from screw heads and gears, to the rotor and literally anything that is visible. If they could do that with just this one line, I bet it would be worth it because they are definitely great movements and work horses and it's a perfect line to do it with. People buying the Cellini expect it. Even Omega movements with exhibition case backs are pretty to look at. It would be cool if Rolex could step up their movement finishing game to be in the league of JLC, ALS, PP, AP, and so many others.
|
20 October 2022, 02:04 AM | #70 |
2024 Pledge Member
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Somewhere Cold
Posts: 907
|
LMAO... Rolex is thankfully not Omega. They do franken watches like nobody else.
__________________
Rolex GMT Master II 116710LN Rolex Sea-Dweller 16600 Rolex Explorer 224270 Rolex Explorer II 226570 Polar Omega Moonwatch Sapphire Sandwich Panerai PAM00111 2 Factor Authentication |
20 October 2022, 02:13 AM | #71 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 805
|
Nothing, Rolex is what it is because of its management of products.
|
20 October 2022, 02:16 AM | #72 |
2024 Pledge Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: USA
Posts: 205
|
I'd create a museum (like Omega, PP have) and start curating/acknowledging their history a bit more formally.
|
20 October 2022, 03:13 AM | #73 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Dec 2016
Real Name: Luis
Location: Texas
Watch: SS Submariner Date
Posts: 1,395
|
i would think of the customers first and make available to everyone...
|
20 October 2022, 03:34 AM | #74 | |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Aug 2019
Real Name: Ian
Location: Hamburg
Watch: Sub 14060
Posts: 1,163
|
Quote:
|
|
20 October 2022, 03:42 AM | #75 | |
2024 Pledge Member
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Somewhere Cold
Posts: 907
|
Let Omega play stupid product placement games. It cheapens their brand. That NTTD watch is so ugly it can't be unseen.
Quote:
__________________
Rolex GMT Master II 116710LN Rolex Sea-Dweller 16600 Rolex Explorer 224270 Rolex Explorer II 226570 Polar Omega Moonwatch Sapphire Sandwich Panerai PAM00111 2 Factor Authentication |
|
20 October 2022, 12:38 PM | #76 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Guess.
Watch: 116610LN
Posts: 475
|
RECALL ALL YACHT-MASTER II models, immediately discontinue same and commence with plan to wipe its previous existence/memory from earth.
Ceramic coke GMT on brushed oyster bracelet like yesterday. Hire people smarter than me, like all you fine fellows! DM Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
116610LN; 126710BLRO; 126613LB; 79360N; 277200 |
20 October 2022, 12:47 PM | #77 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Nov 2018
Real Name: Teck
Location: South East Asia
Watch: Tudor Black Bay 58
Posts: 1,846
|
|
20 October 2022, 01:37 PM | #78 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: America
Posts: 715
|
I wouldn’t change a thing. Rolex is one of the most successful brands ever.
|
20 October 2022, 01:49 PM | #79 |
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
Join Date: Jul 2013
Real Name: Joe
Location: Los Angeles
Watch: Daytona + GMT BLNR
Posts: 4,852
|
Hard to argue with results. Emphasis on constant refinement of design, production and presentation. Never sit on success.
|
21 October 2022, 01:22 AM | #80 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: MD/NC
Watch: 114060
Posts: 2,591
|
I'd further increase the visibility of Rolex charity work as some of the projects they fund are pretty incredible.
|
21 October 2022, 02:39 AM | #81 |
2024 Pledge Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: USA
Watch: Daytona
Posts: 6,091
|
As they are already super successful, I would just find a way to give buyers a meaningful expectation when requesting a watch. Maybe some sort of online queue for sales as opposed to only working through AD. They can do "drops" of stock and instantly sell out.
I would also ask the R&D team to come up with some more complicated high end timepieces to go head to head with the big 3. |
21 October 2022, 02:45 AM | #82 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jun 2022
Real Name: Giuliano
Location: Italy
Watch: Rolex - Panerai
Posts: 1,979
|
I would make a new line of super complicated and precious just to prove to Patek Philippe, Audemars Piguet, Vacheron Constantin and A. Lange & Sohne that it is no less than them.
|
21 October 2022, 03:16 AM | #83 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Aug 2019
Real Name: Ian
Location: Hamburg
Watch: Sub 14060
Posts: 1,163
|
My "idea" was meant in jest! Yes, Rolex needs no product placement to boost its sales and brand. But there´s no denying that Omega got a huge boost after Pierce Brosnan started wearing a Seamaster back in the 1990s. I´ve read that Omega weren´t doing so well at the time, and it gave them the sort of world-wide publicity that many watch brands (not Rolex, who apparently weren´t interested) would have killed for! I wonder what they paid for the "privilege"? And yes, that NTTD watch is indeed pug-ugly!
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
|
|
*Banners
Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.