Any GMT BlueBerry owners here ?

[4reRlxGuy]

Originally Posted by 1675-David

there is no "if" Blueberry inserts are a hoax, they are fake and they have no connection to Rolex other than they fit into a 1675 bezel.

Talk to Eric Ku and Andrew Shear. I guess the auction houses have been selling "fakes" for all these years.

[4reRlxGuy]

Clarification - reputable auction houses.

We all know of the questionable ones.

[Dan S]

Originally Posted by 4reRlxGuy

Talk to Eric Ku and Andrew Shear. I guess the auction houses have been selling "fakes" for all these years.

The "legitimization" of watches via high-end dealers and auction houses is one of the most disturbing aspects of the collectible watch industry, and one that has been widely discredited on many, many occasions. Totally aside from the blueberry question, I really would like to see people making this "appeal to authority" argument, and making decisions for themselves based on the evidence that is available.

[Swearengen]

Ask Perezcope about auction houses and fakes

Originally Posted by 4reRlxGuy

Talk to Eric Ku and Andrew Shear. I guess the auction houses have been selling "fakes" for all these years.

[TimeLord2]

If you want a Blueberry insert you can get that right now on EBAY. They're actually quite good reproductions and come pre-faded to give it that "authentic vintage appeal". This is advertised as "New Other". Basically new. Even eWatchParts sells these.

Based on previous discussions on this topic by the much more knowledgeable people on this forum and some spirited discussions on other sites, I would have to agree that these are not a product that was ever produced by or for Rolex. I was thinking it might look good on my root beer GMT. I might call that a Root Beer Blueberry Float. You can even get them in red too. I think I might call that a Raspberry.

[Dom9]

To be fair to Crown Art; he makes it clear his Blueberry inserts are aftermarket and I believe he makes them himself. I also don't think he was around when the (un?)originals started appearing but I could be wrong!

[Kingface66]

Originally Posted by 4reRlxGuy

Talk to Eric Ku and Andrew Shear. I guess the auction houses have been selling "fakes" for all these years.

Yes. They have.

[southtexas]

Originally Posted by 4reRlxGuy

Talk to Eric Ku and Andrew Shear. I guess the auction houses have been selling "fakes" for all these years.

Not the strongest argument for authenticity.

[tekno]

The original blueberry inserts were blue with some kind of silver printing over the blue, I remember seeing photos of the numbers wearing off an insert for sale back when those things were fetching crazy amounts of $.

The original ones in question everyone was sporting had a very specific font. It didn’t look like the fat font on that one above.

That whole BS story concocted around the UAE GMT with the red hand and the blue bezel cracks me up. Wasn’t that RPM?


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[southtexas]

Originally Posted by tekno

The original blueberry inserts were blue with some kind of silver printing over the blue, I remember seeing photos of the numbers wearing off an insert for sale back when those things were fetching crazy amounts of $.

The original ones in question everyone was sporting had a very specific font. It didn’t look like the fat font on that one above.

That whole BS story concocted around the UAE GMT with the red hand and the blue bezel cracks me up. Wasn’t that RPM?


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Didn’t orchi get ahold of one and easily rub the printing off? It’s been awhile, I don’t recall…

[tekno]

Originally Posted by southtexas

Didn’t orchi get ahold of one and easily rub the printing off? It’s been awhile, I don’t recall…

I remember him talking about it, I know he didn’t think the original ones were legit.

I forgot about him, when he started pushing crazy Chinese propaganda I had to unfollow him on IG.


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[TuRo]

Originally Posted by southtexas

Didn’t orchi get ahold of one and easily rub the printing off? It’s been awhile, I don’t recall…

I miss the 'third-party-ist' Orchi if I'm honest...much maligned I felt....

[rootbeer7]

Originally Posted by TuRo

I miss the 'third-party-ist' Orchi if I'm honest...much maligned I felt....

I’m with you Buddy Paul

[1675-David]

Err buddies…

[dickbissell]

Originally Posted by 4reRlxGuy

Talk to Eric Ku and Andrew Shear. I guess the auction houses have been selling "fakes" for all these years.

I'm from the violin world and sketchy attributions backed up by big names are very common. Not nearly the money in watches, but I assume the principal is the same. Someone with a reputation makes the claim and then everyone down the line has too much interest to call it out.

[Dom9]

Who is/was Orchi? Anyone with an Instagram handle for him? Sounds right up my alley!

[TuRo]

Err, to get you started, Buddy TuRo offered this up for your esteemed delectation...

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/vint...te-t14016.html

[Kingface66]

Originally Posted by Dom9

Who is/was Orchi? Anyone with an Instagram handle for him? Sounds right up my alley!

Just don’t start referring to yourself in third person…Buddy.

[Swearengen]

Err buddies, Swearengen say why was buddy Orchi banned from this forum? Just asking

[brandrea]

I just knew we’d end up here

[rootbeer7]

Originally Posted by Swearengen

Err buddies, Swearengen say why was buddy Orchi banned from this forum? Just asking

Buddy S might find himself in the same pickle

[springer]

Originally Posted by TuRo

Err, to get you started, Buddy TuRo offered this up for your esteemed delectation...

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/vint...te-t14016.html

That Orchi thread was a good attempt at dating the GMT 16750 dials, but, as others viewed it, it was noted that the introduction or time frame for these dials was clearly out of order for several of them. While the dials are correct for the GMT 16750, one should not use it as a guide for dating the dials. As an example, the dial identified as a Mark I is not the first variation of the 16750 matte dial but, instead, is the second variation on this model.

As Turo mentioned, the Orchi thread does provide some enjoyment for its readers, like many of his old threads.

[1675-David]

Originally Posted by brandrea

I just knew we’d end up here

[Paulie 50]

Originally Posted by brandrea

I just knew we’d end up here

Me too. So sad isn't it? But there's none so blind, than those that don't want to see.

[Spark]

Originally Posted by TuRo

I miss the 'third-party-ist' Orchi if I'm honest...much maligned I felt....

Buddy Spark also misses Buddy Orchi
Legend

Sorry to hijack such a serious discussion

[Dom9]

Thanks buddy TuRo! Dom appreciates the esteemed link!

[dhknola]

Wow, didn't see this going down memory lane with ol' Orch...he is/was certainly a character with some excellent knowledge of old Rolex thrown in.

[suligeo]

Originally Posted by 4reRlxGuy

One more

This insert is fake


https://www.instagram.com/vintage_georgex/

[tekno]

I think they all are, I hope he bought it knowing it was.


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[baumare]

Buddy Baumare missing the diatribe Orchi Vs. Josè & Buckley...