Yachtmaster 40mm

[alphadweller]

Originally Posted by Polyesterpig

Definitely a lot heavier than a submariner due to the platinum bezel. I see a lot of people wearing submariners, but have yet to see someone wearing a 40mm Yachtmaster.

My 116622 pt dial weighs 148g, about the same as the latest Sub 126610 (150g). Maybe you're comparing the YM against older 5 digit Subs with hollow links?

[Goose 104]

Originally Posted by alphadweller

Never. Your pictures are the best!

Thank you, that's really very kind

[10splaya]

Originally Posted by Wingman244

Why??? It seems to be going for 10%-15% premium grey market. If you live in a state with 10% sales tax - go grey and it will be basically be about the same price out the door and you'll get it tomorrow - plus you will support one of the businesses that help this site. Not one of those flim flam AD's.

I really dislike the whole market situation with the ADs and will never give them my money.

Isnt there an advantage to having a relationship with an AD???

[Wingman244]

Originally Posted by 10splaya

Isnt there an advantage to having a relationship with an AD???

Every AD Relationship story I see on here is what I call an "inverted relationship". Let me make "nice" with my AD so he might sell me a $15,000 watch. That's just ridiculous.

I would like to know what advantage there is to grovel in front of some salesperson to please, please sell me a watch. I don't get it.

I have purchased 7 watches (4 Rolexes) this year - unplanned - need to dial it back. LOL. And my local AD could care less - and has no clue. But my grey dealer knows me and knows me well and treats me very nicely - "What would you like, yes I can get that for you, it will be at your door tomorrow, great doing business with you." Until AD's treat me like that - I see no advantage in dealing with them.

[10splaya]

Originally Posted by Wingman244

Every AD Relationship story I see on here is what I call an "inverted relationship". Let me make "nice" with my AD so he might sell me a $15,000 watch. That's just ridiculous.

I would like to know what advantage there is to grovel in front of some salesperson to please, please sell me a watch. I don't get it.

I have purchased 7 watches (4 Rolexes) this year - unplanned - need to dial it back. LOL. And my local AD could care less - and has no clue. But my grey dealer knows me and knows me well and treats me very nicely - "What would you like, yes I can get that for you, it will be at your door tomorrow, great doing business with you." Until AD's treat me like that - I see no advantage in dealing with them.

I hear ya....I just thought it meant like you could get on 'that' list hahahaha

I just hate paying a premium :P

I have 2 grey guys and they are very appreciative of my business.

I just figured with this watch it could be obtained at retail...

[VentoGT]

The 126622 is a great choice, elegant yet sporty and it offers solid value, especially given its rarity. It’s a hard-to-find model with good resale potential, making it a smart buy if you can get one.

[Wingman244]

Originally Posted by 10splaya

I hear ya....I just thought it meant like you could get on 'that' list hahahaha

I just hate paying a premium :P

I have 2 grey guys and they are very appreciative of my business.

I just figured with this watch it could be obtained at retail...

In the market right now, the key is that depending on the Rolex reference - the premium starts to get down to 10% or so => which makes the speed and customer service of the greys worth it.

This watch - the SS 40mm Yachtmaster seems to be in that range. The GMT Root Beer, 2 Tone Daytona's, a few of the DayDate references and pretty much any of the all gold references fall into the key 10%-15% premium. Obviously this does not apply to the SS GMT's, SS Daytona, etc.

So while getting a SS Daytona at the AD is a big score. Getting the Yachtmaster at retail is not that big of a deal.

A lot of Pateks (non SS sportswatches) are trading below retail in the greys right now, as are VC, Omega, Grand Seiko, IWC... I picked up a brand new Omega Speedmaster Racing this summer for $3,000 less than the Omega Boutique would sell me. (a 33% discount)

(Everyone probably knows this already)

[melikewatches]

Originally Posted by Wingman244

Why??? It seems to be going for 10%-15% premium grey market. If you live in a state with 10% sales tax - go grey and it will be basically be about the same price out the door and you'll get it tomorrow - plus you will support one of the businesses that help this site. Not one of those flim flam AD's.

I really dislike the whole market situation with the ADs and will never give them my money.

Do you feel paying the grey premium vs. waiting the official AD route is perpetuating the market situation ? This being a lower demand watch, the wait should not be the same as a Daytona.

[Wingman244]

Originally Posted by melikewatches

Do you feel paying the grey premium vs. waiting the official AD route is perpetuating the market situation ? This being a lower demand watch, the wait should not be the same as a Daytona.

No, the market situation is what it is. Demand > Supply today. I believe the greys are providing a service for those of us willing to pay to get the watch. I purchased a Daytona and GMT Batgirl at the considerable grey premium because - life is short and I don't believe I need to wait for something as useless as a mechanical watch. Now if we were talking about a life saving medicine then a moral argument or how my actions impact the world would be overriding and important - but watches? No. I'm an independent actor seeking to optimize my current situation in the market as it is today.

At the end of the day, this is just a hobby, an expensive one, but just a hobby... Actually not that bad, my wife's best friend's husband collects cars, built a 6 car garage. Now that's an expensive hobby. My other neighbor races sports cars - owns a big F-350 to tow the cars around, spends $3,000 on a weekend just in tires. My brother bought a F-350 and camper to travel around to different dog shows. Lots of ways to waste money I guess. Watches seem nice and not a lot of hassle - I owned a series of boats... Hahaaha never again.

[melikewatches]

Originally Posted by Wingman244

No, the market situation is what it is. Demand > Supply today. I believe the greys are providing a service for those of us willing to pay to get the watch. I purchased a Daytona and GMT Batgirl at the considerable grey premium because - life is short and I don't believe I need to wait for something as useless as a mechanical watch. Now if we were talking about a life saving medicine then a moral argument or how my actions impact the world would be overriding and important - but watches? No. I'm an independent actor seeking to optimize my current situation in the market as it is today.

Understood.

I just have an issue paying above msrp. Especially for a watch and one that is lower demand. I do not want any watch enough to do so.

I am on a "wait" list at 3 different AD's for a Yachmaster. Has only been a month. 1 place I have purchase history, others I do not. I went in dressed well, wearing my AP. Will be interesting to see how it goes.

My wait times and buying experiences for other luxury items and brands like AP and Cartier were straight forward and professional. Hopefully it will be the same with Rolex. I will do my normal polite monthly emails as have with other brands.

[Ukkanhifi]

I've been on the 'waitlist' for a Sub (no date) for 1 yr 9 months, and a slate YM40 for about 7 months. In the meanwhile I have bought a DJ41 and Exp 1 from grey without any fuss. I think I'm also done with this waiting game crap.

[melikewatches]

Originally Posted by Ukkanhifi

I've been on the 'waitlist' for a Sub (no date) for 1 yr 9 months, and a slate YM40 for about 7 months. In the meanwhile I have bought a DJ41 and Exp 1 from grey without any fuss. I think I'm also done with this waiting game crap.

I am only 1 month in. I will not go gray and pay above msrp, but I will buy a non Rolex I like just as much if the wait goes too long. Soi many nice watches out there. I like the YM, but I am not hungry to own a Rolex.

I waited 3 months for my RO. 3 months is acceptable to me for a YM. Beyond 6 will feel odd.

Curious, were the DJ and Exp new from the grey dealer ?

[DAGMoney]

About six months into my wait for this one - really love that blue second hand against the slate dial. My AD tells me they've only seen three of them in 2024. Not a big demand item when compared to several other references, so I'm hoping to one comes my way in early 2023. If not, i will likely go gray...

[beebox]

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[Phlippe]

37mm Rhodium YM vs 40mm Blue YM - on 165mm wrist. Both are amazing, the 37mm is the size of the original Rolex Submariner. The Rhodium probably gets more wrist time.


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[10splaya]

Originally Posted by Phlippe

37mm Rhodium YM vs 40mm Blue YM - on 165mm wrist. Both are amazing, the 37mm is the size of the original Rolex Submariner. The Rhodium probably gets more wrist time.


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Why does the Rhodium get more wrist time????

Super nice piece!!!

[Polyesterpig]

Originally Posted by Wingman244

Every AD Relationship story I see on here is what I call an "inverted relationship". Let me make "nice" with my AD so he might sell me a $15,000 watch. That's just ridiculous.

I would like to know what advantage there is to grovel in front of some salesperson to please, please sell me a watch. I don't get it.

Kinda reminds me of having to pay to shop at a store. (Costco membership)!

[Wingman244]

Originally Posted by Polyesterpig

Kinda reminds me of having to pay to shop at a store. (Costco membership)!

I work at Costco…. LOL. Great company - stock getting close to a $1,000 a share. Whooo hooo!


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[Wahlberg]

Originally Posted by GST15

Only the upgraded movement with increased power reserve. They changed the name of dial from Rhodium to Slate (but its the same color)

If I remember correctly they also trimmed down the lugs.

[Polyesterpig]

Originally Posted by Wingman244

I work at Costco…. LOL. Great company - stock getting close to a $1,000 a share. Whooo hooo!


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I have a Rolex and a Costco card, so I shouldn’t be complaining