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[Zakalwe]

Originally Posted by DARK_KNIGHT

Things that really strike me about Soccer:

1. Amazing cardio. World class cardio.

2. The kicking effect placed on the ball. WTF? Major physics at play.

3. The amount of money that flows thru soccer. Do they have Salary Caps in soccer?

4. No time outs? WTF? Really? I´ve noticed one single Coach in a coaches box on the sidelines and he appears to be yelling out strategy, but with the size of the field and the amount of noise, do the players actually respond to the instructions? In american football when your coach tells you do something, the only thing coming out of your pie-hole , better be : Yes, Coach !!!!!

In american football we have coaches for everything. From what I can tell from TV, seems to be only two coaches.

5. Substitutions: 3 per game? Per game? Even the substitution system is strange to me. No surprises.

Salary caps would be league dependent, but no salary caps as far as I know in the major European leagues. The best players in the world earn $500k + dollars per week (don't ask me why by tradition football salaries are quoted weekly rather than annually). But then somebody like Ronaldo dwarfs that income through endorsements - I think he's been in the top three highest paid sportsmen in the World for a few years now, with Messi and Neymar not far behind, though the top 100 list is dominated by Floyd Mayweather, NFL and Basketball players.

Top footy teams have lots of coaches though International teams at the WC have far fewer. International players only spend a few weeks with their national team per year, so actual skill coaching happens at club level. At International level the coaching is really all tactical and comes from the head coach and his assistant. At club level there will be numerous skill coaches, a fitness coach, a defence coach, an attacking coach, a goalkeeping coach. Then there are coaches for all the youth teams. Then again there are player scouts. There's a director of football/recruitment at many clubs. A top club will have dozens involved in the playing side. Whilst the coach does shout from the sidelines, most of his instructions are communicated via hand signals. But football is in large part spontaneous and certainly not based on too many discrete plays like in NFL so the input of the coach in the middle of a game (rather than half time) is minimal, no matter how much shouting and hand waving goes on (to be honest I think a lot of that is for the camera and is why a lot of top managers dress like they're going out for a nice meal). He will sometimes get to talk to players during a natural break in play to pass on instructions. Substitutes also pass on instructions to the team when they come on.

Curious as to why three subs per game is odd, genuinely? I think it used to be 2 subs from a bench of 5, now it's 3 from 7 at the top level.

[dmash]

Originally Posted by DARK_KNIGHT

Bro, you crack me up!!!!! I swear, I´ll be doing something and then you push the envelope and I just crap up laughing out loud and I look around and people are wondering what the heck is so funny.

[DARK_KNIGHT]

Originally Posted by Zakalwe

Salary caps would be league dependent, but no salary caps as far as I know in the major European leagues. The best players in the world earn $500k + dollars per week (don't ask me why by tradition football salaries are quoted weekly rather than annually). But then somebody like Ronaldo dwarfs that income through endorsements - I think he's been in the top three highest paid sportsmen in the World for a few years now, with Messi and Neymar not far behind, though the top 100 list is dominated by Floyd Mayweather, NFL and Basketball players.

Top footy teams have lots of coaches though International teams at the WC have far fewer. International players only spend a few weeks with their national team per year, so actual skill coaching happens at club level. At International level the coaching is really all tactical and comes from the head coach and his assistant. At club level there will be numerous skill coaches, a fitness coach, a defence coach, an attacking coach, a goalkeeping coach. Then there are coaches for all the youth teams. Then again there are player scouts. There's a director of football/recruitment at many clubs. A top club will have dozens involved in the playing side. Whilst the coach does shout from the sidelines, most of his instructions are communicated via hand signals. But to be honest, football is in large part spontaneous and certainly not based on too many discrete plays like in NFL so the input of the coach in the middle of a game (rather than half time) is minimal. He will sometimes get to talk to players during a natural break in play to pass on instructions. Substitutes also pass on instructions to the team when they come on.

Curious as to why three subs per game is odd, genuinely? I think it used to be 2 subs from a bench of 5, now it's 3 from 7 at the top level.

It´s odd for me because in american football, you can substitute the entire team between each play if you want too.

Between "downs" , you can change out as many players as you want. One player gets ejected from the game? No worries, just replace him with another.


Thanks for the explanation on how a Coach communicates his strategy with the players on the soccer field.

[DARK_KNIGHT]

Originally Posted by cdmorenot

As of yesterday's press release James is out for this match. Pekerman however is a sneaky old man and likes to keep everyone on their toes and line ups secret until last minute.

I like James but I think Mateus Uribe and Juan Quintero can put in more than enough work and if Falcao joins the game, it should be interesting.

I'm obviously rooting for Colombia but what I really want to see is a good game of soccer (Like yesterday's match between Japan and Belgium) and if the game is exciting, it will have been all worth it.



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Why do Colombians call "JAMES" - "HA-MEZ"?

[dmash]

Originally Posted by DARK_KNIGHT

Why do Colombians call "JAMES" - "HA-MEZ"?

How do you pronounce Jalapeño? They speak Spanish there

[DARK_KNIGHT]

Originally Posted by dmash

How do you pronounce Jalapeño? They speak Spanish there

Got it. But - if that was the pronunciation sought, wouldn´t "Jaime" (Hi-May) represent?

[cdmorenot]

Originally Posted by DARK_KNIGHT

Why do Colombians call "JAMES" - "HA-MEZ"?

J is pronounced differently in Spanish.

HAHAHA! Would be JAJAJA! Down here.

No I - So no Jaime

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[cdmorenot]

Originally Posted by dmash

How do you pronounce Jalapeño? They speak Spanish there

"How do you pronounce Jalapeño"

LAUGH MY ... OFF !!!

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[GerardoG]

Originally Posted by dmash

How do you pronounce Jalapeño? They speak Spanish there

Thank you. There is coffee all over the place!!

[dmash]

Originally Posted by cdmorenot

"How do you pronounce Jalapeño"

LAUGH MY ... OFF !!!

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Originally Posted by GerardoG

Thank you. There is coffee all over the place!!

I’m here all night gentleman



Less than 30 mins away, I hope we get a good game!

[cdmorenot]

Game Day from Medellín !!

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[SpeakWithMichael]

Got some grading to do, but I'm watching. I hadn't decided who I was rooting for, but it's always fun to watch the Brits turn into a hot legless mess when they get on the piss, so let's see the lads give good reason for the fans to get on the lash, yeah?

[cdmorenot]

The energy is crazy.

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[tudorbaja27]

Originally Posted by cdmorenot

The energy is crazy.

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looks great! Reminds me of the Euro2016 summer I spent in Vienna and Paris.

[Zakalwe]

Originally Posted by SpeakWithMichael

Got some grading to do, but I'm watching. I hadn't decided who I was rooting for, but it's always fun to watch the Brits turn into a hot legless mess when they get on the piss, so let's see the lads give good reason for the fans to get on the lash, yeah?

The Scots, Welsh and Norn Irish might take issue with that. There’ll be a lot of Columbia fans in the U.K. tonight.

It sounds like this match is being played in Bogotá. I’m starting to brick it now.

[AK797]

Come on England! Getting very nervous now...

[GerardoG]

Ready for this!!!!!!

...so ajiaco or fish and chips???

[SpeakWithMichael]

Originally Posted by GerardoG

Ready for this!!!!!!

...so ajiaco or fish and chips???

Either, but a tall cider, please.

[GerardoG]

Originally Posted by SpeakWithMichael

Either, but a tall cider, please.

Noted

[cdmorenot]

That Neymar junk is rubbing off on everyone.

Bunch of cry babies on both sides.

England looks strong - Colombia is going to need a mistake.

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[Abdullah71601]

Just saw the worst flop ever.

[Wesley Crusher]

This is awesome. Total class acts.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cne...hank-you-note/

[Zakalwe]

I don’t remember seeing a game reffed by an American. He’s been pretty good.

The “headbutt” incident though was a classic case of the ref bottling a decision. Nothing in the Laws makes that a yellow. It’s either deemed a bit of handbags and nothing is given at all, or it’s violent conduct and a straight red.

[cdmorenot]

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

This is awesome. Total class acts.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cne...hank-you-note/

I worked for a Japanese company for a few years. Their discipline is a thing of awe.

Pure class.

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[SpeakWithMichael]

Originally Posted by cdmorenot

I worked for a Japanese company for a few years. Their discipline is a thing of awe.

Pure class.

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Puuuure class. May they never lose their amazing culture. I hope to visit soon.

[longimanus88]

What a game yesterday! We can be happy, but no reason to brag. Japan fans can be proud of their team, even though they were too naive.
My opinion: Kompany is the shadow of his name, I would go for Boyata, he performed well during the first 3 games. Please put Chadli on the field and forget about Carrasco.
Wait and see what we do against Brazil, but I know one thing for sure: everything can happen. I'd love a semi-final against our French friends.

[KBM]

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

This is awesome. Total class acts.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cne...hank-you-note/

I was in awe when I saw this. We (speaking for my country) have so much to learn from them from a cultural maturity standpoint. Amazing.

[FTX I]

Painful first half. Hope it gets better now but terrible game so far.

[KBM]

Originally Posted by Zakalwe

I don’t remember seeing a game reffed by an American. He’s been pretty good.

The “headbutt” incident though was a classic case of the ref bottling a decision. Nothing in the Laws makes that a yellow. It’s either deemed a bit of handbags and nothing is given at all, or it’s violent conduct and a straight red.

Agreed. A commentator (former ref) just mentioned on TV that FIFA needs to clearly define what an agression is. As you said, there are no half measures in the game's rules: an agression means a direct red.

There is no way that headbutt wasn't intentional, just as the stomp on the ankle of yesterday's game. In both cases, there is no such thing as a "light" agression. Should be a straight red and that's it.

[OmegaJJH]

Unbelievable time wasting!


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