I May Have Been Scammed Right Here On TRF

[dmc]

The property seems to check out....

There may be hope for resolve. This property info is not typically indicative of a person that would do something like this. Unless he just decided to start becoming a crook. If the house is still in his name, I would think that Joey should be able to put a lien against it.

http://www.richlandonline.com/servic...ssorsearch.asp

[Buschy]

I didnt read all the post, but for 12k I would have spent a couple hundred and picked up the watch in person.
and in your predicament, I would already be on a plane to his area and start doing some searching.
good luck I hope it works out, I have been scammed before , no near as much money, but it was at christmass as well and it sucked.

[Alan111]

Originally Posted by dmc

Joey I'm really sorry for what has happened to you.

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If in fact it turns out that this guy has ripped you off I truly hope that all of the disease's known to mankind attack him in unison.

x2

[1000ftSub]

Originally Posted by joeychitwood

If any of you happen to find this Submariner on ebay during your fake-hunting, it's one of two watches I sent away:

I will also keep my eyes out on ebay,and craigslist for that Submariner, but like Dr.B said he could be reading this thread right now and he will know what he's up against.

[joeychitwood]

Originally Posted by dmc

The property seems to check out....

There may be hope for resolve. This property info is not typically indicative of a person that would do something like this. Unless he just decided to start becoming a crook. If the house is still in his name, I would think that Joey should be able to put a lien against it.

http://www.richlandonline.com/servic...ssorsearch.asp

Appears to be owned by the person who signed for the watch. How hard could this be to investigate?

[joeychitwood]

Originally Posted by Buschy

I didnt read all the post, but for 12k I would have spent a couple hundred and picked up the watch in person. And in your predicament, I would already be on a plane to his area and start doing some searching.

If tomorrow weren't Christmas Eve, that's where I'd be by this afternoon.

[Nicko]

Originally Posted by joeychitwood

If tomorrow weren't Christmas Eve, that's where I'd be by this afternoon.

There has to be someone here on TRF near the guy's house, come on, I'm in Spain, but if I weren't and was close by, I'd sure lend a hand. Let's help him out!

[dmc]

Originally Posted by joeychitwood

If tomorrow weren't Christmas Eve, that's where I'd be by this afternoon.

Have you even called the local PD and explained to them what has happened?

[Nicko]

Can we revisit the rules for selling here on TRF? Maybe require the seller to become a Pledge Member so we have his/her info or something. I mean, this is awful. I understand it's buyer beware but if we can prevent this from happening again then maybe we should. We have a Sub for sale right now from a member with 17 posts! Am I saying he's crooked, no, but I wouldn't buy from him. Come on, let's stop this stuff!

[bodybump]

Wow...this is crazy...let get together and nail this guy...we have a lot of members from the Police force maybe they can help...

About buying:..
1.Dont get to excited when you see a good deal online...If its too good to be true..it is too good to be true...

2.Reference reference reference...if the seller has no reference or maybe a first time seller forget about it...Too much Risk!!!

3.Ask people who have been here for a long time..If that person have done business with the seller...And im not talking $100-1000 deal..

Remember like everyone says "BUY THE SELLER NOT THE WATCH"...saving $200-300 is not worth it if the seller has no reference at all... you will end up loosing more than that..

There are more scammers now than ever before be very very carefull...$12,000 worth of deal is serious money..i would have to take time off and fly to wear it was delivered in the US...Call the police in that area..contact fedex or even go to the drop off location where your watch came from and talk to a supervisor...Just try to do the best you can..we cannot allow this people scam more people...Let me know what i can do to help...

[bodybump]

Originally Posted by Nicko

Can we revisit the rules for selling here on TRF? Maybe require the seller to become a Pledge Member so we have his/her info or something. I mean, this is awful. I understand it's buyer beware but if we can prevent this from happening again then maybe we should. We have a Sub for sale right now from a member with 17 posts! Am I saying he's crooked, no, but I wouldn't buy from him. Come on, let's stop this stuff!

I think thats a good idea..every one that needs to sell in our forum should provide with a legit address or name...Let keep this forum a safe haven for buyers and sellers....

[CaveDiver]

Address: 3325 Platt Springs Rd
West Columbia, SC,
29170-2203
Business Activity: Exporter / Importer
Phone: 803-796-9250
Fax: 803-939-6100
Website: www.ncr.com
Contact this Company



From that IP he used at this site, it appears he must work at NCR.. Call them and ask for the names you have… If he works at NCR, it might be short lived…

[BASSETHOUNDS]

Originally Posted by RebreatherDiver

joeychitwood,

PM me all the info that you have on this guy, the internet forensics contact I have can find out personal info form posters on "anonymous" posting web sites, so if you have any info I am sure he can find out who he really is.

Great all the help you willing to provide the poor man here , however I'm pretty sure that the bas... scammer is checking what we write about him . Let's not give him any info that he can use to avoid making a mistake and hence locate him .

[joeychitwood]

Originally Posted by dmc

Have you even called the local PD and explained to them what has happened?

I'm not posting publicly about measures taken so far.

16618 watches are a dime a dozen at $12,000 on ebay. I shopped here because I had great results on a previous sale. I'd still trust TRF more than ebay for such a purpose, but I've certainly learned my lesson.

[bodybump]

Originally Posted by joeychitwood

I'm not posting publicly about measures taken so far.

16618 watches are a dime a dozen at $12,000 on ebay. I shopped here because I had great results on a previous sale. I'd still trust TRF more than ebay for such a purpose, but I've certainly learned my lesson.

Keep us updated joey....

[Welshwatchman]

Originally Posted by joeychitwood

I'm not posting publicly about measures taken so far.

16618 watches are a dime a dozen at $12,000 on ebay. I shopped here because I had great results on a previous sale. I'd still trust TRF more than ebay for such a purpose, but I've certainly learned my lesson.

Just bear in mind it's not about trusting TRF, it's all about trusting the seller, the man, his word (or her's of course).

Let's hope that this newbie seller has the biggest pang of guilt imaginable and makes good with Joey.

[tnt]

Wish you luck for hunting him down !

below is another site about his house

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/40...55194456_zpid/

[BASSETHOUNDS]

Originally Posted by Nicko

Can we revisit the rules for selling here on TRF? Maybe require the seller to become a Pledge Member so we have his/her info or something. I mean, this is awful. I understand it's buyer beware but if we can prevent this from happening again then maybe we should. We have a Sub for sale right now from a member with 17 posts! Am I saying he's crooked, no, but I wouldn't buy from him. Come on, let's stop this stuff!

Agree 110% with you , TRF is once again the victim of its own success : We have all read the rules and legally TRF cannot and should not be held responsible . They surely did what they could have done in this case , I presume Steve asked for more info because he must have smelt a rat .
Now I,m all for that TRF asks for more info and have means of verification of the seller ID . I have seen what my wife went through with Paypal once she hit the 1500 euro volume (we are talking 12K usd here ), her account was frozen for about a week , she had to sent photocopies of her ID , drivers license , phone bills , electric bills ,bank statements and all that after they have taken your CC and got it confirmed with the paypal 4 digit code . I mean I don't recall providing that much info to my bank to get a 400.000 euro mortgage .
Maybe the Mod's should indeed impose a payment that is linked to a CC or bank account and have them provide a matching ID .
I really feel for the man , if I can help in any way I'd be more then pleased . Hope someone gets hold of this mega bast... and beats the shit out of him before and after he has returned the goodies .

[HL65]

That stinks---Did you use a Federal Bank wire? If so that is a Federal crime and the FBI can be involved. fyi Best of luck!

[valentine]

Originally Posted by TattooedGQ

I think we're All in.....and a good number of us are

damn right!

[Defiancekofb]

http://www.zillow.com/homes/404-Wate...olumbia-SC_rb/

If you reverse address look up on 411.com

It does in FACT show, his name.

http://www.411.com/search/ReverseAdd...caltime=survey

Hayes, Curtis A

404 Waterville Dr

Columbia, SC 29229-8131

Also on peopledata it shows his address as well.

http://www.peopledata.com/results.ph...=&name_style=1

I hope he is praying to god right now. We pretty much got all the bases covered on this guy. Just make the call to the authorities and it's a done deal.

[erock]

Wow, Im sorry to hear this happened to you. Im not sure how much help I can be but Id love to help in any way I can. You didnt happen to wire the money from a TD Bank account did you? Its a longshot I know but I figured I would ask since I work for TD and have alot of contacts in the banking business, we could most likely help in getting the motion started to recover the money you had wired to him. Let me know.

[Lol-x]

I don't know the seller and I don't know that you have been scammed.

The seller failed to provide material as requested and was banned accordingly.

It is still very early days and it maybe that the seller is going to complete the transaction.

However, you should take all steps that are open to you to ensure that you can obtain performance of this transaction. This includes contacting your bank and police.

Dealing with anyone over the internet is fraught with risk. It's nothing like walking into a shop and dealing with a trader.

I hope this works out for the best, there is still a chance for this to occur.

When one enters into transactions on the internet there is no way to 100% verify the bona fides of the other party.

[spuds]

sh*t. I've just read this thread & i hope this can still be resolved amicably i really do....

[joeychitwood]

Originally Posted by CaveDiver

Address: 3325 Platt Springs Rd
West Columbia, SC,
29170-2203
Business Activity: Exporter / Importer
Phone: 803-796-9250
Fax: 803-939-6100
Website: www.ncr.com

The phone number has been disconnected or is not in service.

[Alan111]

Originally Posted by joeychitwood

The phone number has been disconnected or is not in service.

Go to their website..

http://www.ncr.com/utility/contact_us/index.jsp?lang=EN

NCR WORLD HEADQUARTERS

2651 Satellite Boulevard Duluth, Ga. 30096-5810 USA
1-800-CALL-NCR
(1-800-225-5627)


Outside the U.S.
1-937-445-1936

[Ashley]

I'm really sorry about you potentially being scammed, I really hope this all gets resolved quickly and easily

[CaveDiver]

dang, I hope they did not close shop. NCR has been there for years and sold out. Let me check

[CaveDiver]

Try their headquard in OH and find out: 937-445-5000 they should be able to help with a phone number

[Mosco]

Originally Posted by CaveDiver

Try their headquard in OH and find out: 937-445-5000 they should be able to help with a phone number

937 area code is within 30 miles of where I live. Let me know if I need to go there.