Looks as if Lance Armstrong will lose it all

[SUBversive]

Originally Posted by mtrunner

Looks like Lance Armstrong is going to go to do an interview with Oprah to finally confess that he used performance enhancing drugs. From what I read he is hoping to get his lifetime ban reduced so he can continue competing in Triathlons. Should be an interesting interview if he answers the questions honestly.

Pete rose should go on Oprah with him

[JasoninDenver]

Originally Posted by Cesium133

So 3rd place racers will now go down in the record books as the winners of the Tour?

The record books will remain blank for these years as they should. Just like the blank baseball hall of fame entry for this year and hopefully until the doping losers are gone from recent memory.

Honestly, anyone that has followed cycling for the last 20 years has waited for this exact moment. From amphetamines in the 60's and 70's to steroids and boosters of recent years, cycling has been marred.

I hope that Lance sincerely apologizes to all of those whom he completely ruined over the years by the power of his denials and the force of his money behind them.

He needs to look at what kind of example he wishes to set for his kids. Anything short of admitting that he lied, slandered and destroyed the lives of people who told the truth would simply be a self-serving PR stunt.

He is ****ing scum until he comes clean. This is from a Texan, a cyclist and a fellow testicular cancer survivor.

I wish him and his family well.

[threemonkeys]

Sorry, kids, I don't see the good in this person. A liar without a conscience. But, hey, people have short attention spans and he's got 100 million.

[TheVTCGuy]

You know the REAL irony in all of this?

For the first time in my life I'm looking forward to an Oprah Winfrey interview....

[Thoreau]

From reports it looks like he has admitted guilt on the show. If this is the case then it shows him to be even mor arrogant and an even greater liar I feel. I really have no time for this fellow and hiding behind a charity to try to keep ones name clean is even worse.

But what has been even more worrying through all this has been all those who have shouted witch hunt or desperately defended him and his carefully crafted image.. It seems once one is hooked on a sports Demi-God everything includining integrity is gone.. Just look at Tiger and now this individual. Sucsses and arrogance it seems is more important than morals or integrity now.

This person is indicative of all that is wrong in this world, as long as the image and fantasy looks good it matters not the sewer under the street or lies and lack of substance behind the curtains.

[77T]

The PED use is just like the other athletes we have witnessed - bad choice and poor example for his sport. Usually the only "victim" is the person himself. But Armstrong went out of his way to victimize others.

I read an article this morning that highlighted that point.

He tried to destroy people – their finances, their businesses, their reputations, their names. Anyone who named him as a PED user in their depositions.

These are the victims of Lance Armstrong. We'll see if the mighty "O" lets Lance brush aside this aspect or the obvious questions. Why did he use his power, fame and status to shout down anyone who spoke the truth about his PED use - and attempt to ruin them in support of his avalanche of lies.

[77T]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

You know the REAL irony in all of this?

For the first time in my life I'm looking forward to an Oprah Winfrey interview....

And she's streaming it on the web for those at their desks!

[Mickey®]

Originally Posted by Dr. Robert

Lotta doping going on in bicycling.....next year in the Tour there'll be one guy pedaling through France.

LOL I laughed out loud.

I agree that he has done a lot for cancer research through the donations and awareness.

Everyone was doping. I like Lance. I still like Lance. As I don't want to argue I will unsubscribe to this topic! LOL

Still one of my favorite autographs!!!

[beetleything]

Originally Posted by Mickey®

LOL I laughed out loud.

I agree that he has done a lot for cancer research through the donations and awareness.

Everyone was doping. I like Lance. I still like Lance. As I don't want to argue I will unsubscribe to this topic! LOL

Still one of my favorite autographs!!!

Very true.

Everyone was doping - the difference is he lied longer - that's it.

He still came first - it's just a shame he could not do it without the dope etc.

[threemonkeys]

Originally Posted by Thoreau

From reports it looks like he has admitted guilt on the show. If this is the case then it shows him to be even mor arrogant and an even greater liar I feel. I really have no time for this fellow and hiding behind a charity to try to keep ones name clean is even worse.

But what has been even more worrying through all this has been all those who have shouted witch hunt or desperately defended him and his carefully crafted image.. It seems once one is hooked on a sports Demi-God everything includining integrity is gone.. Just look at Tiger and now this individual. Sucsses and arrogance it seems is more important than morals or integrity now.

This person is indicative of all that is wrong in this world, as long as the image and fantasy looks good it matters not the sewer under the street or lies and lack of substance behind the curtains.

Very well said.

[TopNotchChach]

Dont worry, Oprah is going to clear all this up.

[yessir69]

Originally Posted by Thoreau

From reports it looks like he has admitted guilt on the show. If this is the case then it shows him to be even mor arrogant and an even greater liar I feel. I really have no time for this fellow and hiding behind a charity to try to keep ones name clean is even worse.

But what has been even more worrying through all this has been all those who have shouted witch hunt or desperately defended him and his carefully crafted image.. It seems once one is hooked on a sports Demi-God everything includining integrity is gone.. Just look at Tiger and now this individual. Sucsses and arrogance it seems is more important than morals or integrity now.

This person is indicative of all that is wrong in this world, as long as the image and fantasy looks good it matters not the sewer under the street or lies and lack of substance behind the curtains.

What he said.

[Lisa]

Originally Posted by Thoreau

From reports it looks like he has admitted guilt on the show. If this is the case then it shows him to be even mor arrogant and an even greater liar I feel. I really have no time for this fellow and hiding behind a charity to try to keep ones name clean is even worse.

But what has been even more worrying through all this has been all those who have shouted witch hunt or desperately defended him and his carefully crafted image.. It seems once one is hooked on a sports Demi-God everything includining integrity is gone.. Just look at Tiger and now this individual. Sucsses and arrogance it seems is more important than morals or integrity now.

This person is indicative of all that is wrong in this world, as long as the image and fantasy looks good it matters not the sewer under the street or lies and lack of substance behind the curtains.

Excellent post. I'm glad to know that there are still people out there who understand right from wrong.

[Kingair]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

You know the REAL irony in all of this?

For the first time in my life I'm looking forward to an Oprah Winfrey interview....

x 2

I really want to see this interview . . . afterwards I might regret it . . .

HAGT

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by TopNotchChach

Dont worry, Oprah is going to clear all this up.

No, Oprah is going to promote herself and make some money in return Lance is going to have forum in which he can try and make his next move.

I don't think we're going to resolve much with this interview.

[dddrees]

For now it appears as the anti doping agency isn't accepting the Oprah Winfrey confession and will not lift his ban until he makes a complete statement of guilt under oath.

[bayerische]

Originally Posted by dddrees

For now it appears as the anti doping agency isn't accepting the Oprah Winfrey confession and will not lift his ban until he makes a complete statement of guilt under oath.

Makes sense.

[Rodentman]

He'll probably write a book. Then Oprah can feature it on her book club.

[dddrees]

I have to say I never really payed that much attention to some of the details that I only discovered yesterday. All indicatiors are this guy was a real bad man. Talk about ruthless and ruining peoples lives and careers this dude is a serious piece of work.

Now I can see why people were afraid of this dude and for the most part said nothing. He shut you off and ruined your career if you were a cycling reporter and said anything bad about him.

If you didn't cheat and you were on his team he fired you. If you had anything to do with cycling and said anything negative about him you were toast. He actively sought to destroy you and he actually did with some people.

I thought he was a cheater and only morally and ethically challenged.

Wow, just wow, no this dude is a bad bad man.

[Thoreau]

Yeah, the truth is now coming out as he has been exposed, for the life of me with the confession and flooding of info about him now I just cannot see how anyone can defend this individual any more. I think one of the most damming things was when I read an article by Greg LeMonds wife after this all broke, what he did to them was despicable and it seems he did it to so many others and as for the charity. Well, I really feel he used that as a diversionary tactic which is even more despicable!

[tattooedfagin]

wanted for ages to believe it was all lies & the guy was still a hero but, if he spills the beans & confesses all he deserves all that's coming to him. If you can't play fair, don't take part

[seand442]

I don't really care about cycling, but the PED stuff and lying really isn't new. Just look at baseball.

[jolimont]

this guy deserves to lose everything and go to jail

[Wacker23]

Lance might have done alot for cancer awareness, but all the times he was hurting other people and ruining their lives is what makes him a bad person. He deserves everything he gets coming to him.

[Along4theRide]

Unfortunately all professional sports are rigged in some manner. Players are not just people, they are brands, they have hundreds of people and entire companies behind them. They have so much riding on winning, that they must win at all costs. Lance Armstrong is no different than Tiger Woods, Barry Bonds, Bill Belicheck, Ben Johnson or any other sports cheat in any sport. He is a brand who's time has come and gone. As with most folks who get disgraced in sports, time tends to heal some of the discretions and in a few years when all of this dies down, there will be a book, movie of the week, and forgiveness. Unless of course you are Pete Rose ;)

[SUBversive]

Originally Posted by TopNotchChach

Dont worry, Oprah is going to clear all this up.

Thanks to lance I now know Oprah had her own tv station....


Lance comes clean and claims he's not responsible for his actions because he was on drugs

[77T]

I'm in the group that believes there are three true sports--bullfighting, mountain climbing, and motor-racing. But let's take pro cycling as a sport for the moment...

In sports, winning hinges on gaining an advantage. Some are fair and some are unfair. Every rules change is met with competitors seeking to skirt the edges - pushing the envelope to get that advantage back.

Once gained, an unfair advantage can't be disclosed. If someone accuses you; it is denied else the game is over. So lying goes hand-in-hand with cheating.

And thus starts the unending escalating cycle of more cheating, more lies, more wins...

Sorry if I burst any bubbles

[uzzi]

Motor racing....a true sport?

[bayerische]

Originally Posted by uzzi

Motor racing....a true sport?

Bullfighting?

[Kingair]

Originally Posted by dddrees

I have to say I never really payed that much attention to some of the details that I only discovered yesterday. All indicatiors are this guy was a real bad man. Talk about ruthless and ruining peoples lives and careers this dude is a serious piece of work.

Now I can see why people were afraid of this dude and for the most part said nothing. He shut you off and ruined your career if you were a cycling reporter and said anything bad about him.

If you didn't cheat and you were on his team he fired you. If you had anything to do with cycling and said anything negative about him you were toast. He actively sought to destroy you and he actually did with some people.

I thought he was a cheater and only morally and ethically challenged.

Wow, just wow, no this dude is a bad bad man.

I just saw a doc made about the team of Yellow Rubber Bracelet Man . . . .

I was really surprised about the things they mentioned how Armstrong rules his team in his way !

All the rest has to bend or move . . .

If it is all true . . . I don't know . . . but we say in Belgium . . . "Waar rook is . . . is vuur" - "Where there is smoke . . . there's fire"

Meaning that there is something that . . . might be true . . .

And now we will see how huge the impact is of an Oprah show . . . and how we'll prepared the Q & A's are . . .

Today we will have all awnsers from Mr 7 times . . .

HAGOne