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K3VB · 26 June 2013, 03:44 AM

My GMT 16700 is a U serial with just 'Swiss' on the dial, is that correct or is it a replacement dial?

samsmart · 5 August 2013, 03:00 PM

Great info on a great watch!!

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swisswatchguy · 12 October 2013, 01:30 PM

One of my two recent acquisitions is an 18K yellow gold GMT Master II. I had the same model in two tone with the oyster bracelet but this one feels really nice on the wrist. My photo is not as crisp as some of the excellent images I have seen on this site, but wanted to contribute. I believe the Rolex brand to be one of the strongest, most recognized brands in the world and they are a pleasure to wear.

Rock On!

jcd · 13 October 2013, 07:55 AM

I've been searching for info on the different dials available on the GMT but I can't find what I'm looking for. I'd like to know when serti dials were available and what they looked like. Were there both slate and champagne like the sub? What models were the root beer dials available on and when was that last produced? Can anyone help me?

Cortezthekiller · 3 November 2013, 07:53 AM

Great thread, as I am new to the forum and have decided my first vintage Rolex will be a Root Beer GMT. Think I'll stick to the Oyster bracelet for a more sleek look.

Originally I was looking at a DJ, but the history and functionality of the GMT has won me over.

WJGESQ · 12 April 2014, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redshirt1957

I like yours and mine.

Are the gold links solid on these two tone models?

LBHQ · 12 June 2014, 07:54 PM

Great info on my favorite. Thanks

steeldreams · 20 September 2014, 02:39 PM

My 16710 has a story that spans more than years to tell.

It was serviced in RSC Kuwait, and the technician told me he "updated" the bezel to turn only in one direction, that was in 1998. When I bought this watch in 1989, the bezel was bi-directional.

Fast forward to 2014, when through the net and forums like this one, I learned to click open the bezel. I found out the reason why by bezel rotates only in one direction. Now, after all these years, I have reason to believe, the original spring got lost during that service job in Kuwait, and my 16710 was installed a bezel spring from unidirectional model.

Here is my watch today, 2014. I am in need of a bezel insert. Anyone can please point me to the suitable replacement?

WilliamsonFL · 22 November 2014, 06:50 AM

My original SS had a black face and red 24hr hand with a ferromagnetic alloy hairspring. My new TT has a black face with a green 24hr hand and a paramagnetic alloy hairspring.

Is there any significance to the color of the 24hr hand or is it purely cosmetic?

Marrk · 22 November 2014, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamsonFL

My original SS had a black face and red 24hr hand with a ferromagnetic alloy hairspring. My new TT has a black face with a green 24hr hand and a paramagnetic alloy hairspring.

Is there any significance to the color of the 24hr hand or is it purely cosmetic?

Unless I am mistaken, the red hand is the standard, traditional color. The green hand is meant to celebrate the GMT's 50th anniversary. Green is Rolex's corporate color.

WilliamsonFL · 28 November 2014, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marrk

Unless I am mistaken, the red hand is the standard, traditional color. The green hand is meant to celebrate the GMT's 50th anniversary. Green is Rolex's corporate color.

Thanks!

cerbom · 22 December 2014, 06:13 AM

Don t think I ever posted what I found. Never been opened up, original owner. Runs and looks new. I think it was 07/09. I ve got to read thru this great post to see what I got.

cerbom · 22 December 2014, 06:30 AM

In the Northern Hemisphere the Rolex GMT-Master may also be used as a compass. Simply point the hour hand towards the sun and automatically the red 24-hour hand will point to the North! Try it

Can someone explain this?

Opalo · 19 February 2015, 04:51 AM

Thank so much for the links Larry! very instructive:)

watchabout · 3 March 2015, 02:48 AM

If the dial only says Swiss and not Swiss made then it means it's fake?

There's a GMT Master II on ebay right now which only says Swiss on the bottom of the dial. Bids are already on $4500 in it's about to finish in a few minutes.

Marrk · 3 March 2015, 12:27 PM

As far as I know, "Swiss" is correct for some vintage watches, but not for the GMT II.

Good luck.

rahible · 4 March 2015, 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cerbom

In the Northern Hemisphere the Rolex GMT-Master may also be used as a compass. Simply point the hour hand towards the sun and automatically the red 24-hour hand will point to the North! Try it

Can someone explain this?

You can actually do this with ANY watch with hands. Here's a brief summary and might help to explain it for you.

http://www.wikihow.com/Use-an-Analog-Watch-as-a-Compass

Tim Wells · 12 September 2015, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marrk

As far as I know, "Swiss" is correct for some vintage watches, but not for the GMT II.

Good luck.

That dial with only the word SWISS is a Luminova dial and would be correct on a GMTII made in 98 or 99. They went to Super luminova after that.

Cuyo · 1 January 2016, 04:58 PM

Hello all,
I just inherited a GMT from my grand father (He was a pilot)
I dont want to remove the bracelet to find out the serial but I think is a 16750.
So i have read a lot of good info in the forum however is a bit overwhelming for my untrained eye. Having said that this are the facts: the order of the hands are: hour, GMT, min, sec.
It doesnt have the word "date" after "perpetual"
It does have "Superlative Chronometer" and at the very bottom of the dial it says "T Swiss T" you can change the date without changing the
Hour. It wont glow in the dark and the bezel wont turn.
I wanted to know if its a 16750? What year aprox? Is it a "Bart Simpson"? Is it a "Cornino"? Is it a glossy, a matte or gilded? Does it have the "nipple" hour hand?
Do you think the dial is original or it has been changed during servicing?
Any info helps and thanks a lot!

Cuyo · 2 January 2016, 01:00 AM

Another pic

strafer_kid · 2 January 2016, 07:08 AM

Really interesting read - great thread re great watch!

rouxeny · 2 January 2016, 07:28 PM

Root beer.

Some things about it look a little unusual, but I am sure the real pros will be here soon.

lee fowler · 3 January 2016, 05:28 AM

Just picked up this Radial Dial GMT today.

Marrk · 3 January 2016, 11:28 AM

Beautiful, Lee.

alexinmontreal · 2 February 2016, 03:28 PM

This is my newest and I'm not sure what I have. I'm told it's Ref 16718. Altogether a wonderful piece, mint condition, unworn and just beautiful! The Eye of The Tiger

lee fowler · 3 February 2016, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marrk

Beautiful, Lee.

Thanks.

popular · 6 February 2016, 06:48 PM

Good post, at least I got to know something about rolex. Thank you for the post. I really like to buy this watch but I cannot afford it.
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slorollin · 13 April 2016, 02:47 AM

A question for all of you GMT experts out there.......... Can you tell which movement is in a "Z serial" GMT ll without popping the case? All I find are statements like: "early Z series had the 3185, later Z series had the 3186". Does anyone know the cutoff point of the serial numbers where after ZXXXXXX all movements are 3186?

kenang83 · 5 July 2016, 09:21 PM

hi, my rolex gmt master 2 lume have defect, it wont glow so bright and feel like dirty or drop off the lume dot. Any one have this issue before?

thanks

sheldonsmith · 5 July 2016, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slorollin

A question for all of you GMT experts out there.......... Can you tell which movement is in a "Z serial" GMT ll without popping the case? All I find are statements like: "early Z series had the 3185, later Z series had the 3186". Does anyone know the cutoff point of the serial numbers where after ZXXXXXX all movements are 3186?

I have a couple methods to discern 3185 vs 3186 posted at https://www.minus4plus6.com/paracromblu16710.php#crown

-Sheldon

22 November 2014, 06:50 AM	#99
WilliamsonFL "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 3	GMT Master II 24hr Hand My original SS had a black face and red 24hr hand with a ferromagnetic alloy hairspring. My new TT has a black face with a green 24hr hand and a paramagnetic alloy hairspring. Is there any significance to the color of the 24hr hand or is it purely cosmetic?

22 December 2014, 06:13 AM	#102
cerbom 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: mark Location: East TN Watch: rolex AK, GMT, TAG Posts: 202	Don t think I ever posted what I found. Never been opened up, original owner. Runs and looks new. I think it was 07/09. I ve got to read thru this great post to see what I got. __________________ Rolex Airking Tag Aquaracer Rolex GMT

22 December 2014, 06:30 AM	#103
cerbom 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: mark Location: East TN Watch: rolex AK, GMT, TAG Posts: 202	In the Northern Hemisphere the Rolex GMT-Master may also be used as a compass. Simply point the hour hand towards the sun and automatically the red 24-hour hand will point to the North! Try it Can someone explain this? __________________ Rolex Airking Tag Aquaracer Rolex GMT

5 July 2016, 09:21 PM	#119
kenang83 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: malaysia Posts: 5	Rolex GMT Master 2 lume have defect hi, my rolex gmt master 2 lume have defect, it wont glow so bright and feel like dirty or drop off the lume dot. Any one have this issue before? thanks

26 June 2013, 03:44 AM	#91
K3VB Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: London Watch: GMT Master Pepsi Posts: 38	My GMT 16700 is a U serial with just 'Swiss' on the dial, is that correct or is it a replacement dial?

5 August 2013, 03:00 PM	#92
samsmart "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: sam Location: Dallas, TX Watch: Me Tint Posts: 3,777	Great info on a great watch!! Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2

13 October 2013, 07:55 AM	#94
jcd "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Jack Location: Wisconsin Watch: me vector Posts: 1,152	I've been searching for info on the different dials available on the GMT but I can't find what I'm looking for. I'd like to know when serti dials were available and what they looked like. Were there both slate and champagne like the sub? What models were the root beer dials available on and when was that last produced? Can anyone help me?

3 November 2013, 07:53 AM	#95
Cortezthekiller "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: USA Posts: 234	Great thread, as I am new to the forum and have decided my first vintage Rolex will be a Root Beer GMT. Think I'll stick to the Oyster bracelet for a more sleek look. Originally I was looking at a DJ, but the history and functionality of the GMT has won me over.

12 June 2014, 07:54 PM	#97
LBHQ Member Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Ken Location: Home Watch: 116520 Posts: 134	Great info on my favorite. Thanks

20 September 2014, 02:39 PM	#98
steeldreams "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Philippines Posts: 11	My 16710 has a story that spans more than years to tell. It was serviced in RSC Kuwait, and the technician told me he "updated" the bezel to turn only in one direction, that was in 1998. When I bought this watch in 1989, the bezel was bi-directional. Fast forward to 2014, when through the net and forums like this one, I learned to click open the bezel. I found out the reason why by bezel rotates only in one direction. Now, after all these years, I have reason to believe, the original spring got lost during that service job in Kuwait, and my 16710 was installed a bezel spring from unidirectional model. Here is my watch today, 2014. I am in need of a bezel insert. Anyone can please point me to the suitable replacement?

19 February 2015, 04:51 AM	#104
Opalo "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: florida Watch: Rolex 116710LN M Posts: 60	Thank so much for the links Larry! very instructive:)

3 March 2015, 02:48 AM	#105
watchabout "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Real Name: Dave Location: miami Watch: Submariner Posts: 374	If the dial only says Swiss and not Swiss made then it means it's fake? There's a GMT Master II on ebay right now which only says Swiss on the bottom of the dial. Bids are already on $4500 in it's about to finish in a few minutes.

3 March 2015, 12:27 PM	#106
Marrk "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Mark Location: Los Angeles Watch: 5513 Posts: 2,192	As far as I know, "Swiss" is correct for some vintage watches, but not for the GMT II. Good luck.

2 January 2016, 07:08 AM	#111
strafer_kid "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Kenny Location: northern ireland Watch: SDs, Subs & GMTs Posts: 5,136	Really interesting read - great thread re great watch!

2 January 2016, 07:28 PM	#112
rouxeny "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Real Name: Andrew Location: Maui Posts: 686	Root beer. Some things about it look a little unusual, but I am sure the real pros will be here soon.

3 January 2016, 11:28 AM	#114
Marrk "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Mark Location: Los Angeles Watch: 5513 Posts: 2,192	Beautiful, Lee.

6 February 2016, 06:48 PM	#117
popular "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: india Posts: 4	Good post, at least I got to know something about rolex. Thank you for the post. I really like to buy this watch but I cannot afford it. ----------------------------- Top ten classified websites

13 April 2016, 02:47 AM	#118
slorollin "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: NC Watch: yer pints & quarts Posts: 372	A question for all of you GMT experts out there.......... Can you tell which movement is in a "Z serial" GMT ll without popping the case? All I find are statements like: "early Z series had the 3185, later Z series had the 3186". Does anyone know the cutoff point of the serial numbers where after ZXXXXXX all movements are 3186?

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