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Old 23 August 2014, 03:10 PM   #91
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What size is your wrist? If I had to guess based on your SubC lug comments, I'd guess 6.5 or less.


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Old 23 August 2014, 04:28 PM   #92
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14060m 2 line or SD 16600 that the choice
One year later you will come back asking abt the same question and my answer will be :
5513 or SD 1665
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Old 23 August 2014, 04:28 PM   #93
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14060m 2 line or SD 16600 that the choice
One year later you will come back asking abt the same question and my answer will be :
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Old 23 August 2014, 04:45 PM   #94
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What a bunch of lugs; I'm really happy with mine.
To reiterate; my wrist is none too large but the watch feels super.

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Old 23 August 2014, 04:58 PM   #95
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Lucky for me, I started watch collection only in Dec 2013 and have no idea what the older sub lugs look like.

All I know is that the current SubC looks great.
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Old 23 August 2014, 07:37 PM   #96
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Even though I do accept and like the new wide body case, I prefer the more streamlined look of the SD 116600



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Old 26 August 2014, 01:09 AM   #97
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The lugs make it look like a tank. Modern beauty.
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Old 26 August 2014, 02:44 AM   #98
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Sell asap and get the one you believe is the best.
I agree. I also prefer the beefier look of the new cases but you clearly don't. So sell it and get one that is more appealing to your eyes.
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Old 26 August 2014, 02:49 AM   #99
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I used to be all miffed about the new proportions of the case, rant about how the SD16600 was all better but at the end, I think the new SubC design update is a successful one. I find the maxi dial and hands advantages far out-weighs any aesthetic concerns, as much so that I have a hard time enjoying my older Sub 16610 and I sold off the SD16600.

I love that watch Patrick! That will be my second when the 116710LN goes in for service.
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Old 26 August 2014, 03:32 AM   #100
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I used to be all miffed about the new proportions of the case, rant about how the SD16600 was all better but at the end, I think the new SubC design update is a successful one. I find the maxi dial and hands advantages far out-weighs any aesthetic concerns, as much so that I have a hard time enjoying my older Sub 16610 and I sold off the SD16600.


What is it about car lighting that shows off the Sub C? Yours looks fantastic. Here's mine in the morning by the Atlantic.

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Old 26 August 2014, 03:49 AM   #101
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Errr...didn't you see the watch before you bought it? Surely you would have noticed the lug size.

IMO the SubC is perfectly proportioned and far superior to the previous version.
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Old 26 August 2014, 04:03 AM   #102
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The Rolex Submariner & GMTc II lugs... ....... he new DSc is a beauty!!!
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Old 26 August 2014, 04:37 AM   #103
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While not a fan of the supercase and lugs, I must say - they're worth it when you get the new bracelet and clasp. They're worth the price of admission. I've gone back and forth with the new Sub, and a pair of new Sub Dates, then to vintage, and five-digit models. When I buy another Rolex, it'll be a newer model.
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Old 27 August 2014, 07:05 AM   #104
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I'm debating whether to keep my 116610 or switch to a 14060 or 16710, precisely because I find the case and lugs just a tad too large.

Having said that, I do really like being the only owner of my 116610, and I like the other upgrades like the ceramic bezel, maxi dial, and clasp.

It will be interesting to see what the super cases look like a few years down the line after a few services and case polishes. Look at a selection of 20 or 30 year old sports Rolexes now, and some have lost quite a lot of metal.
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Old 27 August 2014, 07:27 AM   #105
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I didn't like the SubC that much and got myself a GMT Master II and then a 14060. They were fine but not as comfortable as I thought. Once I got my SubC, it feels very comfortable IMO because it is more balance between weight of watch and clasp. The old model is more top heavy (because of lighter bracelet and clasp) and gave me a flimsy feel. New model, though heavier is actually more balanced.

Whatever you want to switch to, make sure you try them out be be comfortable with. Good luck.
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Old 27 August 2014, 07:49 AM   #106
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I would consider trading any Modern Sub for a SD an upgrade.
Have to agree with LK!
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Old 27 August 2014, 07:59 AM   #107
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I love the case on the Sub C. Superior in every way to the previous model imo.
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Old 27 August 2014, 08:01 AM   #108
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Have you considered a GMTc ?.....the lugs are not as wide....
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Old 27 August 2014, 08:51 AM   #109
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I love my SubC, dont wear it ever, but thats another thread look it up. I have turned down 3 older style subs, if I am honest i feel that I should really like the classic Subs because they are well, iconic and eveyone else likes them.

In reality everytime I handle one it feels too cheap and ordinary to be a real Rolex. Dont get me wrong I really want to like them, but dont. Side by side there is no comparison.

The subC to me feels like a real Rolex should and in my opinion an update was long overdue. Thankfully Rolex agreed, Hopefully they are working to bring the steel Daytona in to the 21st century. Well overdue an update that one as well
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Old 27 August 2014, 10:30 AM   #110
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I'm debating whether to keep my 116610 or switch to a 14060 or 16710, precisely because I find the case and lugs just a tad too large.

Having said that, I do really like being the only owner of my 116610, and I like the other upgrades like the ceramic bezel, maxi dial, and clasp.

It will be interesting to see what the super cases look like a few years down the line after a few services and case polishes. Look at a selection of 20 or 30 year old sports Rolexes now, and some have lost quite a lot of metal.
SDc would be best of both worlds for you but you gotta pay up for that.
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Old 27 August 2014, 04:37 PM   #111
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SDc would be best of both worlds for you but you gotta pay up for that.
Completely agree. If I was choosing whether to get the SubC or SDC from scratch the SDC would win, but flipping the SubC for the SDC is a bigger hit.
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Old 27 August 2014, 04:48 PM   #112
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Old 27 August 2014, 04:48 PM   #113
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Old 28 August 2014, 12:44 PM   #114
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Gotta have faith in the changes / improvements Rolex has done. They did so for a reason, the thicker lugs are no exception.
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Old 28 August 2014, 01:15 PM   #115
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Not only can't you say that the wider lugs are new, but one could argument that this style is, in fact, the original sub design.

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Old 28 August 2014, 01:59 PM   #116
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I got to compare a SubC next to the new SD at an AD today and I have to say that the slimmer lugs look much better than the bigger lugs IMHO.
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Old 28 August 2014, 08:09 PM   #117
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I struggle to classify my SubC as a "big watch"

DSSD yes, YMII yes, even DJII, but not the SubC, GMT2, Daytona or even SD.

Just IMO
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Old 28 August 2014, 09:14 PM   #118
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Old 28 August 2014, 09:28 PM   #119
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I know many will disagree but here is my take on my Sub C....

Just before the New Year I picked up a new Sub C. Inconic piece to me and I had always wanted a Rolex Submariner. I went for new at my AD and it was a great experience and I love the watch. It is exceptional with the dial, bezel etc.

I love the look, the dial, the bezel everything apart from one thing that I cannot get my mind around...those lugs just look plain stupid and have ruined the design of a truly inconic piece for me.

Each time I look, which is pretty often I have to say my eyes are drawn to the fat Breitling inspired case that Rolex jumped on the big watch bandwagon and copied right at the height of the overseized watch fad.

Why could they not just make the lugs a little smaller, keep the design closer to the original?

I have a choice now whether to trade the Sub C for the previous model Sub or a SD. A local shop has a BNIB SD with the stickers etc so I may do a deal, other than that I am thinking of flipping for a previous model (and to me a proper Sub!).

Apologies to those who have been offended but to me Rolex have messed up big style. The Sub C is just fantastic in everyway...apart from those lugs!
The lugs are a bit distracting when compared to the previous model, but Rolex isn't even close to any big watch bandwagon. The diameter is still 40mm, the case is just a bit more squared off at the lugs. The glidelock bracelet is a night and day difference from the 16610 produced before 2004 and the ceramic bezel also makes a huge difference in my opinion. The opinion on the 116610 is very polarized. Most either love it or hate it. The upside is if you are going to trade for the previous model there should be some extra cash heading your way also.
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Old 28 August 2014, 09:34 PM   #120
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I love my SubC, dont wear it ever, but thats another thread look it up. I have turned down 3 older style subs, if I am honest i feel that I should really like the classic Subs because they are well, iconic and eveyone else likes them.

In reality everytime I handle one it feels too cheap and ordinary to be a real Rolex. Dont get me wrong I really want to like them, but dont. Side by side there is no comparison.

The subC to me feels like a real Rolex should and in my opinion an update was long overdue. Thankfully Rolex agreed, Hopefully they are working to bring the steel Daytona in to the 21st century. Well overdue an update that one as well
I held a late 90's Sea Dweller and couldn't get my Sub C back on my wrist fast enough. The bracelet and clasp felt light and cheaply made compared to the newer models. It is truly amazing the improvements that were made since then.
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