Ludicrous Airline Practice???

[erhein]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

fun fact. Im tall, not fat and i couldn't get two seats because i didn't want a neighbor the one time i was considering flying economy in the past few years. Since i didn't need it, my seat would be filled with an overbooked passenger no matter if i paid or not.

I don't mean to redirect the thread, but this one of my bitches about the airlines. If someone buys a non-refundable ticket and then fails to show for the flight, obviously, the ticket is non-refundable. The airlines explain that they have to charge for that seat because it costs them just as much to fly with an empty seat as it does with an ass in that seat. However, virtually every flight, these days has stand-by passengers waiting for a flight. If the seat purchased by the no-show is sold to a stand-by passenger, the airline has been paid twice for that seat. When that happens, it seems to me the airline should nevertheless refund the non-refundable ticket less, perhaps, a service fee.

[dmash]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

thats the problem... rationalizing unhealthiness by saying its "normal" is 95% of the problem. Obesity is so normalized that people are not concerned by it. I see it whenever i go back home to montana. My old highschool friends are too big, their friends are too and so are their friends. Its an entire city of unhealthy people because its "normal" no one cares.

It’s crazy going to where I was originally from in Georgia and seeing the people, and comparing it to the beach where I grew up in Florida. It’s insane at the difference in general body shape.

We’re not speaking about a different country, it’s literally an adjacent state. It is a prime example of how this ‘obesity epidemic’ is greatly a lifestyle choice and mental. Lots of people who try to claim this is ‘not their choice’ are drinking the PC koolaid.

It also should be a literal crime against parents who feed their kids the garbage they do on a daily basis. Does irreversible damage and sets them up for a lifestyle of over indulgence.

[Grnvette65]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

thats the problem... rationalizing unhealthiness by saying its "normal" is 95% of the problem. Obesity is so normalized that people are not concerned by it. I see it whenever i go back home to montana. My old highschool friends are too big, their friends are too and so are their friends. Its an entire city of unhealthy people and because its "normal" no one cares.

Yes I agree obesity should not be the norm and we as a country should do something but... I do realize the rest of the world is leaner and prob healthier. We spend the most on health care and not necessarily live any longer.

[Grnvette65]

Dmash I did respond to you last comments but parts of it got placed w your comments

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by teqp

They are! Kids under two fly free in your lap/bassinet and 2-11 get a cheaper fare than adult full fares.

Do you get a bigger discount if the kids kick the seat in front of them and throw food around the cabin?

[dmash]

Originally Posted by Grnvette65

Dmash I did respond to you last comments but parts of it got placed w your comments

I saw, it’s all good bud, we can both have our individual opinions. Nobody wrong, everybody lives life a different way and has different outlooks

[JasoninDenver]

Simple solution....

Pop up seat dividers that force a large person’s mass to be confined within their allotted width.

If they choose to maintain that mass, let THEM suffer the inconvenience or buy another seat.

I am really peeved that people who choose an unhealthy lifestyle expect me to accomodate their needs to my detriment and I can tell you my direct experiences.

I have sciatica. Sometimes bad. Unfortunately, seating is important for me. I cannot even carry a rear pocket wallet without feeling the pain.

On one regional jet flight, I was the middle seat between two HUGE men who were coworkers. I had NO seat. You could not even SEE the seat. I literally had to sit in their laps and the flight attendant had to help the guys find my seat belt so I could get strapped in. I had to hobble off the plane while those two guys (and the flight attendant) got off laughing at what I had to endure. One guy even commented that they always book their seats like that when they had to fly because they did not want to have to sit right next to each other!

United’s response to my complaint was to say that I was okay because I had access to a seatbelt.

Fair? I dont think so.

[dmash]

Originally Posted by JasoninDenver

I have sciatica. Sometimes bad. Unfortunately, seating is important for me. I cannot even carry a rear pocket wallet without feeling the pain.

Carrier logic:

-Guy with an actual medical issue: what's the big deal, suck it up.

-Guy who eats 2 double cheese/day and grows his frame past its naturally intended limit- he should get extra space to accommodate his frame, even if it's at the expense of another individual with an actual medical condition.

How is this not preferential treatment?

Thank you for showcasing again, exactly how absolutely ridiculous this is (and sorry you have to go through something like that).

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by Grnvette65

Not sure about you but I see more people that over flow their seat in the sitting potion than not when flying. Since you are in the USA, should people who are fatter pay more for same surgery since it clearly is harder and takes more time. Should people w certain conditions pay more for care since they are using more resources than healthy people. Close to 40% of the American population is considered obese therefore it is not a small percentage of the population

Yes. If you use more resources you should be charged more.

[Grnvette65]

Interesting thread, great variation of responses. Looking forward to see how the airlines will change in the future.

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by Grnvette65

Interesting thread, great variation of responses. Looking forward to see how the airlines will change in the future.

They will knock passengers out cold with sticks, then stack them like cordwood on the floor of the plane, securing them with cargo netting. When people complain of injury and concussions, the airlines will point out that the passengers arrived at their destination on time, and therefore, the airlines should be held blameless for the maladies suffered by customers in flight.

[Grnvette65]

Well at least we were not put in the overhead compartment

[JasoninDenver]

Originally Posted by Grnvette65

Well at least we were not put in the overhead compartment

We would be charged extra for this “privilege”.

[austinp]

I would rather sit next to a large person than an a-hole. Airlines should charge them more.

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[Wesley Crusher]

Originally Posted by Grnvette65

Well at least we were not put in the overhead compartment

We couldn’t fit anyway since they’re already filled with dogs that the airlines want to kill.

[SpeakWithMichael]

A bit of an aside, but having been in the Infantry, every single time I board a plane and the slow cattle take their sweet hiney time to get themselves in a seat as they waddle in the aisles or struggle with their bags for 25 minutes, I miss the highly motivated good old days.

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by SpeakWithMichael

A bit of an aside, but having been in the Infantry, every single time I board a plane and the slow cattle take their sweet hiney time to get themselves in a seat as they waddle in the aisles or struggle with their bags for 25 minutes, I miss the highly motivated good old days.

Ah yes... long nap of the earth flights punctuated by a jump into a pitch black jet wash in the middle of the night. Then long hikes in the woods, digging in, cold rain trickling down your back, no sleep, and ten million commies waiting to do you in. The good old days.

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by SpeakWithMichael

A bit of an aside, but having been in the Infantry, every single time I board a plane and the slow cattle take their sweet hiney time to get themselves in a seat as they waddle in the aisles or struggle with their bags for 25 minutes, I miss the highly motivated good old days.

Yeah, but for some reason I still don’t miss carrying rocks to simulate mortars or especially the barrel for the 50 cal.

[dmhines]

Anyone else like me ? You are sitting in your seat with an empty seat next to you ... you are watching everyone board the plane. Suddenly a 300 pounder boards the plane ... and you get this dreadful feeling that they will have the seat next to you! And then the relief when they walk by .. lol

[SpeakWithMichael]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

Ah yes... long nap of the earth flights punctuated by a jump into a pitch black jet wash in the middle of the night. Then long hikes in the woods, digging in, cold rain trickling down your back, no sleep, and ten million commies waiting to do you in. The good old days.

Every second counted.

Originally Posted by dddrees

Yeah, but for some reason I still don’t miss carrying rocks to simulate mortars or especially the barrel for the 50 cal.

Hot brass! Mmmgood.

[teqp]

Originally Posted by dmash

Choosing to eat french fries and drink cola every day is a choice.

All this talk about overweight passengers reminded me of the time Homer Simpson wanted to be over 300lb to claim disability so he could work from home.


And a funny video to go along.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUB5UQ9uLfI

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

Do you get a bigger discount if the kids kick the seat in front of them and throw food around the cabin?

No, the massage and anything over 2 packs of pretzels costs extra!

[77T]

Originally Posted by dmhines

Anyone else like me ? You are sitting in your seat with an empty seat next to you ... you are watching everyone board the plane. Suddenly a 300 pounder boards the plane ... and you get this dreadful feeling that they will have the seat next to you! And then the relief when they walk by .. lol

I do remember those days some 20 years back - but the heavies were less heavy back then. Since then I’ve only flown First - life’s too short to be miserable on a plane.


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[uscmatt99]

Originally Posted by JasoninDenver

Simple solution....

Pop up seat dividers that force a large person’s mass to be confined within their allotted width.

If they choose to maintain that mass, let THEM suffer the inconvenience or buy another seat.

I am really peeved that people who choose an unhealthy lifestyle expect me to accomodate their needs to my detriment and I can tell you my direct experiences.

I have sciatica. Sometimes bad. Unfortunately, seating is important for me. I cannot even carry a rear pocket wallet without feeling the pain.

On one regional jet flight, I was the middle seat between two HUGE men who were coworkers. I had NO seat. You could not even SEE the seat. I literally had to sit in their laps and the flight attendant had to help the guys find my seat belt so I could get strapped in. I had to hobble off the plane while those two guys (and the flight attendant) got off laughing at what I had to endure. One guy even commented that they always book their seats like that when they had to fly because they did not want to have to sit right next to each other!

United’s response to my complaint was to say that I was okay because I had access to a seatbelt.

Fair? I dont think so.

That is brutal, and goes to show that obese people can be a-holes too!

It reminds me of the flip-side when flying with my family. It's my wife and I and our two boys, 9 and 5 years old. In the old days when they were younger it was a curse to draw the short straw and sit with them in the 3-3 configuration planes as it was constant needs, occasional crying, and other joys of flying with kids. So we'd draw straws or take turns. Now it's the golden seat because they take up no space and quietly occupy themselves the whole time.

If you're ever on a flight with us Jason, you can take the seat next to my kids and stretch out a bit

[SpeakWithMichael]

Originally Posted by uscmatt99

That is brutal, and goes to show that obese people can be a-holes too!

Oh definitely.

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by teqp

All this talk about overweight passengers reminded me of the time Homer Simpson wanted to be over 300lb to claim disability so he could work from home.


And a funny video to go along.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUB5UQ9uLfI


No, the massage and anything over 2 packs of pretzels costs extra!

This reminds me of what my father in law told me a few years back. He rode busses in Florida as a part time job when he moved down to Florida. He said obese teenagers collected disability checks for being obese.

[ArtNouveau]

Originally Posted by dmhines

Anyone else like me ? You are sitting in your seat with an empty seat next to you ... you are watching everyone board the plane. Suddenly a 300 pounder boards the plane ... and you get this dreadful feeling that they will have the seat next to you! And then the relief when they walk by .. lol

I have those exact thoughts every time I’m the first to arrive to my seat.

[Gentleman8]

https://stateofobesity.org/adult-obesity/

Adult Obesity in the United States

1 West Virginia 37.7%
2 Mississippi 37.3%
3 Alabama 35.7%
3 Arkansas 35.7%
5 Louisiana 35.5%
6 Tennessee 34.8%
7 Kentucky 34.2%
8 Texas 33.7%
...
47 California 25.0%
48 Hawaii 23.8%
49 Massachusetts 23.6%
50 D. of Columbia 22.6%
51 Colorado 22.3%

[dmash]

Originally Posted by Gentleman8

https://stateofobesity.org/adult-obesity/

Adult Obesity in the United States

1 West Virginia 37.7%
2 Mississippi 37.3%
3 Alabama 35.7%
3 Arkansas 35.7%
5 Louisiana 35.5%
6 Tennessee 34.8%
7 Kentucky 34.2%
8 Texas 33.7%
...
47 California 25.0%
48 Hawaii 23.8%
49 Massachusetts 23.6%
50 D. of Columbia 22.6%
51 Colorado 22.3%

‘Rice will make you fat’

‘3.2% obesity in Japan’

[Rock]

Obesity is the curse of all the affluent Western countries, not just the US.
Too much money to spend on unhealthy food and too many irresponsible providers supersizing everything to flog to people with no willpower.
I am built like any member of the Rolling Stones and I am aware that people look at me like I am a Cancer victim. I'm the one eating the healthy stuff in the Cafe whilst all my obese friends are tucking into the big unhealthy meals.

[Gentleman8]

Originally Posted by Rock

Obesity is the curse of all the affluent Western countries, not just the US.
Too much money to spend on unhealthy food and too many irresponsible providers supersizing everything to flog to people with no willpower.
I am built like any member of the Rolling Stones and I am aware that people look at me like I am a Cancer victim. I'm the one eating the healthy stuff in the Cafe whilst all my obese friends are tucking into the big unhealthy meals.

Not just Western countries. I have lived in the Middle East, it is much worse there than in Europe.