Rolex quality

[904VT]

Originally Posted by M45

It's inexcusable for the price they're asking.

High end custom water pistols are the same way.

No one takes pride in their brand anymore.

Check out the sides and underside of the GMT hand on a Polar Exp2 under a loupe. This has been happening for years. While I agree especially on the meteorite at its price this shouldn't happen, it obviously hasn't been too big of a deal since I can count on one hand the number of posts I've seen over the last 10 years here on it

[RyanJ]

Because people are too busy living in a glass house throwing stones at other brands.

When someone posts how they love a Rokex watch, it becomes a giant lovefest.

When someone posts about a Rolex watch they think is ugly, the wagons circle..

So all that to say.. ya not shocked this is not talked about more.

[pickettt]

Originally Posted by M45

High end custom water pistols are the same way.

That’s a thing?

[Syed117]

Originally Posted by pickettt

That’s a thing?

For when a super soaker isn't enough.

[904VT]

Originally Posted by pickettt

That’s a thing?

Maybe super soakers for $150 lol. But probably just thinking being "witty". Paint application isn't on plastics.

Easy solution is to buy a Rolex model that doesn't have paint application on the hands.

[cbalster]

Originally Posted by FistFlight

Enjoy your publicly traded watch company watches lol

The CEO of Rolex was hired from Louis Vuitton so I don't think Rolex sees publicly traded companies in the same way you do. I think he previously sold Chopard, Zenith, and everyone's favorite, Hublot, before his current role running Rolex.

[M45]

Originally Posted by 904VT

Maybe super soakers for $150 lol. But probably just thinking being "witty". Paint application isn't on plastics.

Easy solution is to buy a Rolex model that doesn't have paint application on the hands.

It's a reflection of the company ethos in general.

Alongside the Presidential models and the Pearlmasters, the meteorite dials are also a flagship line. If the hand is painted halfassed, you have to wonder what else is lurking under the case.

It also makes you wonder if the watch was QC at all--or it was QC'd and the person involved didn't give a damn.

The entire justification for a mechanical/automatic watch is that it is a masterpiece handcrafted by artisans with an eye for and attention to detail. If they're phoning it in, then how can they justify a sticker price you can buy a pretty damn nice SUV for?

[cbalster]

https://www.gq.com/story/unusual-rolex-air-king-value

Does the crappy paint job increase the value though?

[M45]

Originally Posted by cbalster

https://www.gq.com/story/unusual-rolex-air-king-value

Does the crappy paint job increase the value though?

JFC...

"This Porsche is extra valuable because we left off one of the brake calipers..."

[johnjm]

Originally Posted by cbalster

https://www.gq.com/story/unusual-rolex-air-king-value

Does the crappy paint job increase the value though?

The hype over rare once offs is a symptom to the real issues out there.

This thread has been a wonderful escape compared to the drivel about investment and retaining value and blah blah.

Very enjoyable.

To put my 2c into this thread. I was exposed to Rolex from about 13 years old when I found my father's 1969 air king. It was already 25 years old and worked perfectly.

I wore that watch for a decade, through thick and thin, drunken nights, drops, swimming galas, sports, and it still ticked.

Until I cracked the Plexi glass and continues to hike and swim with it that is.

A $400 overhaul brought it back to new though, still wear it to this day. The bracelet has some stretch but it's very sentimental to me.

The experience above made my connection to the brand of something that is functional and bullet proof.



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[In-Cog-Neeto]

Originally Posted by johnjm

The hype over rare once offs is a symptom to the real issues out there.

This thread has been a wonderful escape compared to the drivel about investment and retaining value and blah blah.

Very enjoyable.

To put my 2c into this thread. I was exposed to Rolex from about 13 years old when I found my father's 1969 air king. It was already 25 years old and worked perfectly.

I wore that watch for a decade, through thick and thin, drunken nights, drops, swimming galas, sports, and it still ticked.

Until I cracked the Plexi glass and continues to hike and swim with it that is.

A $400 overhaul brought it back to new though, still wear it to this day. The bracelet has some stretch but it's very sentimental to me.

The experience above made my connection to the brand of something that is functional and bullet proof.



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The fact it was passed on to you, and you still wear it, and it still works. That is a quality defining moment to me

This is how a watch should live

[Juantxo]

Define quality. If quality is dependability, accuracy, longevity, toughness, reliability, then Rolex holds the crown for top quality. If quality is ornate finish, complications (even if pesky), so-so accuracy, pretty but finicky, then look somewhere else (Patek, for instance). If service counts, Rolex wins again (beats Patek by miles and then some).

[johnjm]

Originally Posted by In-Cog-Neeto

The fact it was passed on to you, and you still wear it, and it still works. That is a quality defining moment to me



This is how a watch should live

Exactly. I've had offers for some of the others, but I plan on giving them them all to the kids. I want my daughter to have the Daytona for all of her memories to be made. The boys fight over the others

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[shawn13ca]

I own two flawless Grand Seiko, was expecting that quality for every luxury watches i would buy in the future. So i bought a brand new Air King on the 8th of june. Wore it for two weeks and voila, noticed a piece of dust under the crystal. So I called my AD, and even for this 15 minutes job, it's gotta be sent back to RSC Toronto. 4 weeks later, I am told I should receive it next week. 5 weeks to remove a piece of dust! No rush service on a warranty for a brand new piece.

For me this is just disgusting service from a watch company like Rolex. Dust under a crystal is already unacceptable. But 5 weeks to correct such a mistake is even worse. My next watch could have been a bluesy and I was eyeing an everose president, but there is no way I can still trust Rolex now and spend money with them. Maybe in many years i will forget, but let's just say my next one will be a Panerai. Some people say quality control is not that good, but it can't be worse than Rolex.

[Dsmith1974]

Originally Posted by Muxi

Insofar as toughness and reliability, I cannot think of any brand that can rival Rolex except perhaps Grand Seiko but their sports watches are just so big. They are missing a huge opportunity to grab some market share. No matter how hard I try, I always almost but never get to pull the trigger on a GS.

Maybe a HiBeat will grab you one day. I’d recommend it.

[Muxi]

Originally Posted by Dsmith1974

Maybe a HiBeat will grab you one day. I’d recommend it.

Thanks. In search mode right now and will try to visit an AD. A black dial Mt. Iwate finish seems quite compelling.

[Steerpike999]

Originally Posted by pickettt

Same question...does anyone have a drawer full of busted mechanical Grand Seikos or Omegas?

Anecdotal only, of all the watches I have owned / own (20+ various brands including quite a few Rolex), the ones I have had issues with:

-OMEGA SMP, Chrono button fell off 2 weeks after its service by the Omega Service centre. Service Centre fixed it no charge.

-Tag Heuer crown fell off while diving and watch flooded. Tag Service centre replaced the whole watch at no charge!

-Seiko Chrono, in the drawer because something is rattling inside and i haven't bothered with it.

Not a big sample and not meant to be indicative of anything other than my experience but I would say in my experience, Rolex watches are damn tough and keep working.

[CNDguy]

Originally Posted by Fleetlord

I agree with this 100%

To qualify my stance I own (3) Grand Seikos, including one I just bought.

I would buy another Grand Seiko.


Are they as good overall as Rolex?

No.

Why?

While GS excels at dial work and surface finishing, there are corners cut in terms of using pins and collars in bracelets, subpar clasps and screw down crowns that just aren't all that great...especially compared to twin and triplock crowns.

When I handle a modern Rolex, I don't get a sense that there was cost cutting on any aspect of the watch.

Agree to disagree

[broham84]

Originally Posted by MSchott

Nothing wrong with loving a brand. There is something wrong with bashing the competition especially when there’s no factual basis.

So my ownership experience of these watches aren't factual basis? and yours is?

[MSchott]

Originally Posted by broham84

So my ownership experience of these watches aren't factual basis? and yours is?

I didn’t bash Rolex. You bashed Omega.

[broham84]

Originally Posted by MSchott

I didn’t bash Rolex. You bashed Omega.

Yes, because the Omegas i owned didn't work as they were intended to that's why I no longer have them and don't think the quality is on par with Rolex.

Also I'm quite close with someone in the Tourbillon corporate office, himself admit that Omega return under warranty is surprisingly high.

[pickettt]

Originally Posted by shawn13ca

I own two flawless Grand Seiko, was expecting that quality for every luxury watches i would buy in the future. So i bought a brand new Air King on the 8th of june. Wore it for two weeks and voila, noticed a piece of dust under the crystal. So I called my AD, and even for this 15 minutes job, it's gotta be sent back to RSC Toronto. 4 weeks later, I am told I should receive it next week. 5 weeks to remove a piece of dust! No rush service on a warranty for a brand new piece.

For me this is just disgusting service from a watch company like Rolex. Dust under a crystal is already unacceptable. But 5 weeks to correct such a mistake is even worse. My next watch could have been a bluesy and I was eyeing an everose president, but there is no way I can still trust Rolex now and spend money with them. Maybe in many years i will forget, but let's just say my next one will be a Panerai. Some people say quality control is not that good, but it can't be worse than Rolex.

Now to be fair, I wouldn’t swear off Rolex over that. INCIDENTALLY, I found a piece of lint migrate to right under the cyclops. RSC took care of it in a week, no questions asked. Not what I’d expect for the money spent (or the reputation they laud ), but not a deal breaker. I’d buy another if there were any to buy (at MSRP). Like yours, my Grand Seikos have been flawless (so far), for thousands less.

[Etschell]

Rolex is far better than most will give it credit for. Lot of false opinions here

[pickettt]

Originally Posted by Steerpike999

Anecdotal only, of all the watches I have owned / own (20+ various brands including quite a few Rolex), the ones I have had issues with:

-OMEGA SMP, Chrono button fell off 2 weeks after its service by the Omega Service centre. Service Centre fixed it no charge.

-Tag Heuer crown fell off while diving and watch flooded. Tag Service centre replaced the whole watch at no charge!

-Seiko Chrono, in the drawer because something is rattling inside and i haven't bothered with it.

Not a big sample and not meant to be indicative of anything other than my experience but I would say in my experience, Rolex watches are damn tough and keep working.

I can’t argue with your experience. Go with what has worked for you. One things for sure; I wouldn’t be spending my hard earned cash on watches whose parts are falling off

[pickettt]

Originally Posted by Etschell

Rolex is far better than most will give it credit for. Lot of false opinions here

What is a “false opinion”? I assure you, all of my opinions are real

[MSchott]

Originally Posted by broham84

Yes, because the Omegas i owned didn't work as they were intended to that's why I no longer have them and don't think the quality is on par with Rolex.

Also I'm quite close with someone in the Tourbillon corporate office, himself admit that Omega return under warranty is surprisingly high.

Fine. Every Omega I’ve owned save one that needed regulation (covered under warranty) ran and operated perfectly. There’s probably been 8-10 Omega’s in my collection over the years.

The truth is that every watch company makes watches that have issues. We read about that with Rolex in this thread. All of our experiences are anecdotal.

[Etschell]

Originally Posted by pickettt

What is a “false opinion”? I assure you, all of my opinions are real

That it is inferior. Pretty simple.

[broham84]

Originally Posted by MSchott

Fine. Every Omega I’ve owned save one that needed regulation (covered under warranty) ran and operated perfectly. There’s probably been 8-10 Omega’s in my collection over the years.

The truth is that every watch company makes watches that have issues. We read about that with Rolex in this thread. All of our experiences are anecdotal.

That's great. I'm glad you enjoy Omega way more than I do. I'm not trying to change your opinion but do let me know when one of your Omega goes on 10 years without a service and still runs less than 10 sec deviance per month that goes through daily workout and driving range

[MSchott]

Originally Posted by broham84

That's great. I'm glad you enjoy Omega way more than I do. I'm not trying to change your opinion but do let me know when one of your Omega goes on 10 years without a service and still runs less than 10 sec deviance per month that goes through daily workout and driving range

Rolex makes watches with reliable movements. They can be very accurate. By the way my 2 year old Milgauss did not run as well as you describe. You’re a fanboy which is fine but you are far from objective.

[broham84]

Originally Posted by MSchott

Rolex makes watches with reliable movements. They can be very accurate. By the way my 2 year old Milgauss did not run as well as you describe. You’re a fanboy which is fine but you are far from objective.

ah right, I'm a fanboy, and you're unbiased. Whatever helps you sleep at night lol. Enjoy your watches.