The name “Batgirl”

[jimcameron]

How about "Batbabe" instead?

[Ihatecheese]

Originally Posted by jimcameron

How about "Batbabe" instead?

For the Batman or Batgirl version? :)

[~dadam02~]

We have woman competing against men in the world darts, we have woman commentating on men's football, why can't we have Batgirl for a men's watch? Personally I like it, but then I think the character Batgirl is pretty cool.

[Uggi]

Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

Use the model number .Thats how it should be .

Says who?

[delboylee]

Terrible nickname!!

[-Ally-]

A search of ‘Batgirl’ on the Rolex website produces no results. Searching ‘Batman’ brings up the BLNR on jubilee. The sexist swines!

[GreatScott]

Someone who got their butt hurt when they changed it because they were stuck with the old model decided to call or that because it made then fell better about their situation. That's what people with self esteem issues do.

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[TswaneNguni]

Originally Posted by Uggi

Says who?

[bezler]

Originally Posted by Mystro

I don’t accept that assumption. There was immediate push back but others found it comical so they went out of their way to use the name anywhere they could insert it. Most of us from the moderators to the long time TRF members immediately found the new name ridiculous. The haters smelled blood in the water and just fueled the fire because they could. There is nothing organic or innocent the way this particular name started. Polls questioning the name showed most hated it. It was so stupid most didn’t believe anyone really thought people would seriously use it.
The only regret now is the grownups in the room didn’t push back initially hard enough. That has changed.

I agree with this description of what happened on TRF, except that the nickname didn't originate here. It came from the much larger outside community, and we didn't have the option to veto it.

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[RTG]

For what it is worth my wife has worn a BLNR for years. Watch people or Rolex dealers always comment “oh you’re wearing a batman”. She was never offended that it was considered a man’s watch, or given a man’s name.

Now she has the new BLNR. She might’ve been the first to call it batgirl when it was released. She’s not offended regardless of what someone calls it. It’s a beautiful watch, a beautiful Rolex. If you like it, wear it with pride.

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by Mystro

I don’t accept that assumption. There was immediate push back but others found it comical so they went out of their way to use the name anywhere they could insert it. Most of us from the moderators to the long time TRF members immediately found the new name ridiculous. The haters smelled blood in the water and just fueled the fire because they could. There is nothing organic or innocent the way this particular name started. Polls questioning the name showed most hated it. It was so stupid most didn’t believe anyone really thought people would seriously use it.
The only regret now is the grownups in the room didn’t push back initially hard enough. That has changed.

[VegasMilgauss]

Nonjudgmental society, if you like the batgirl - you like the batgirl! A tad irrational to want it to be renamed though..

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by cerendigit

What surprises me is not that certain people want to use nicknames for watch models, but that other people get pissed when they do.

Does it really matter that a certain part of the watch community calls a watch model that you own superman, batman or the joker?

The nicknames don’t bother me in the slightest. Never did. I was only asking about the batgirl name because I had just first heard it, didn’t understand its origin, but it did seem like this particular nickname was meant to be derogatory. After much member involvement in this thread I do understand now. Its origin was meant to be derogatory.

Secondly it does seem a lot of people here hate the nicknames in general. Then there are the people (do you need a support puppy comes to mind) that enjoy aggravating those people that hate the nicknames. The second post after I asked the initial question some guy said people get triggered over it. I didn’t even know what he meant so I ignored him. I now know what he meant. I also learned something I never knew and that is that some people that dislike the jubilee bracelet do so passionately. Some to the point that they have personally assigned the female gender to it all while insisting the majority of humanity agree with them on that. Lol. This came as a big surprise to me because I am as masculine as you can get and the jubilee is my favorite Rolex bracelet. My wife is remarkably feminine and she only owns one Rolex and that has the oyster bracelet. So there you go. I have learned more on this thread than I have in quite some time. Thank you everyone for all your help and input. Happy New Years!!!!

[brandrea]

Not a fan. I don’t get fussed over nicknames generally, but for some reason, I find this one particularly irksome

[djgallo]

The Batgirl nickname or any other nickname doesn’t bother me at all....and never will.

But those here referring to others as childish for using the Batgirl nickname ....are themselves acting juvenile....the nickname will in all likelihood stick ....no matter how many tantrums are thrown by some forum members here...even the AD’s are calling it Batgirl....don’t see it getting any better....aren’t there more important things to talk about.....

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by djgallo

The Batgirl nickname or any other nickname doesn’t bother me at all....and never will.

But those here referring to others as childish for using the Batgirl nickname ....are themselves acting juvenile....the nickname will in all likelihood stick ....no matter how many tantrums are thrown by some forum members here...even the AD’s are calling it Batgirl....don’t see it getting any better....aren’t there more important things to talk about.....

The large majority are not. Most AD’s struggle to keep up with any nicknames. Unless you see the emperor Rolex call it that, it didn’t happen. As mentioned above, only the “Batman” name is referred to with the current 126710BLNR when searching on the actual Rolex web site. They are the supreme last word as it is their watch. Most dealers will not venture beyond Rolex company protocol.

Not even DavidSW or the other top 5 trusted forum sellers are calling it that (even as a sub reference) and they are large international sellers. That alone speaks volumes as they are forum connected and know the culture significantly better than any AD does.

Since TRF is THE leading Rolex force in Rolex culture and social media and the majority of members hate the name and even polls taken hated the name, who are these knuckleheads outside these walls that have any influence or power to continue pushing this stupid nickname?? All that is left is random trolls or wannabe YouTube “experts” roaming the open social media sites.

For example: Here is DavidSW video comparing the two BLNR models. You will only hear the nickname “Batman” spoken briefly.

BLNR comparison video from DavidSW
https://youtu.be/BiOArCbEj8g

https://youtu.be/BiOArCbEj8g

[joli160]

Originally Posted by Mystro

The large majority are not. Most AD’s struggle to keep up with any nicknames. Unless you see the emperor Rolex call it that, it didn’t happen. As mentioned above, only the “Batman” name is referred to with the current 126710BLNR when searching on the actual Rolex web site. They are the supreme last word as it is their watch. Most dealers will not venture beyond Rolex company protocol.

Not even DavidSW or the other top 5 trusted forum sellers are calling it that and they are large international sellers. That alone speaks volumes as they are forum connected and know the culture significantly better than any AD does.

Since TRF is THE leading Rolex force in Rolex culture and social media and the majority of members hate the name and even polls taken hated the name, who are these knuckleheads outside these walls that have any influence or power to continue pushing this stupid nickname?? All that is left is random trolls or wannabe YouTube “experts” roaming the open social media sites.

Thank you

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by Mystro

The large majority are not. Most AD’s struggle to keep up with any nicknames. Unless you see the emperor Rolex call it that, it didn’t happen. As mentioned above, only the “Batman” name is referred to with the current 126710BLNR when searching on the actual Rolex web site. They are the supreme last word as it is their watch. Most dealers will not venture beyond Rolex company protocol.

Not even DavidSW or the other top 5 trusted forum sellers are calling it that (even as a sub reference) and they are large international sellers. That alone speaks volumes as they are forum connected and know the culture significantly better than any AD does.

Since TRF is THE leading Rolex force in Rolex culture and social media and the majority of members hate the name and even polls taken hated the name, who are these knuckleheads outside these walls that have any influence or power to continue pushing this stupid nickname?? All that is left is random trolls or wannabe YouTube “experts” roaming the open social media sites.

For example: Here is DavidSW video comparing the two BLNR models. You will only hear the nickname “Batman” spoken briefly.

BLNR comparison video from DavidSW
https://youtu.be/BiOArCbEj8g

https://youtu.be/BiOArCbEj8g

Wow excellent comment. Love the videos too. Thanks.

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by Dougiebaby

Ummmm, wrong.

A Pepsi is a Pepsi whether on jubilee or oyster. Gold, TT or stainless. A Pepsi is a Pepsi if the bezel is blue and red.

A Coke is a Coke whether on jubilee or oyster. Gold, TT our stainless. A Coke is a Coke is the bezel is red and black.

A Rootbeer is a Rootbeer if it is on oyster or Jubilee. Gold, TT, our stainless. A Rootbeer is a Rootbeer if the bezel is black/brown and gold-ish.

A Batman is a Batman whether on jubilee or oyster. Gold, TT our stainless. A Batman is a Batman if the bezel is black and blue.

A Batman is a Batgirl only in the eyes of those who are intimidated or jealous by the watch ... old Batman owners who wished their beloved watch was retired (not updates & improved), anti-Rolex guys who are frustrated by their inability to get the watch they want (so they turned on the brand and look for ways to spite it).

It’s kinda funny for those of us that have and enjoy the watch. I call it the “inner chuckle.”

Interestingly, I just got a new Daytona on Christmas Eve. One of my observations of it compared to my Batman is that I like the jubilee more than the PLC oyster on it. You can see my comments on it here...


https://youtu.be/rCMtlge7VQw


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^^^^This observation is spot on correct^^^^^
Absolutely empirical data on nicknames and why this anonymous minority push for the new BLNR nickname is non organic and hater driven.

I asked a similar question why no new nickname for the updated DSSD JC as it also had a new movement and new bracelet and revised case. This was the reason for the new BLNR nickname right?????? Silence from the haters. (I own a new DSSD JC as well)

The “Its too late, shut up and just except the nickname” isn’t going to fly and it isn’t going to happen. The real WIS have spoken and won’t accept it so.......

[familyguy]

Originally Posted by Mystro

I don’t accept that assumption. There was immediate push back but others found it comical so they went out of their way to use the name anywhere they could insert it. Most of us from the moderators to the long time TRF members immediately found the new name ridiculous. The haters smelled blood in the water and just fueled the fire because they could. There is nothing organic or innocent the way this particular name started. Polls questioning the name showed most hated it. It was so stupid most didn’t believe anyone really thought people would seriously use it.
The only regret now is the grownups in the room didn’t push back initially hard enough. That has changed.

Grownups caring about nicknames for jewelry on the internet.

[RTG]

The only haters I have noticed are from those hating the nickname batgirl. We own both 116710BLNR and 126710BLNR. Personally I hate comic book nicknames. I think they are all stupid and childish. But in-spite of that the references stick, even with my wife. As a point of separation, batman and batgirl make sense. Batgirl is faster than saying new batman, or jubilee batman.

There is no hate from my wife. She called it batgirl immediately following it’s Baselworld debut. Sticks and stones may break my bones but stupid, childish rolex names won’t hurt me. Grow up gentlemen!

[djgallo]

Originally Posted by Mystro

The large majority are not. Most AD’s struggle to keep up with any nicknames. Unless you see the emperor Rolex call it that, it didn’t happen. As mentioned above, only the “Batman” name is referred to with the current 126710BLNR when searching on the actual Rolex web site. They are the supreme last word as it is their watch. Most dealers will not venture beyond Rolex company protocol.

Not even DavidSW or the other top 5 trusted forum sellers are calling it that (even as a sub reference) and they are large international sellers. That alone speaks volumes as they are forum connected and know the culture significantly better than any AD does.

Since TRF is THE leading Rolex force in Rolex culture and social media and the majority of members hate the name and even polls taken hated the name, who are these knuckleheads outside these walls that have any influence or power to continue pushing this stupid nickname?? All that is left is random trolls or wannabe YouTube “experts” roaming the open social media sites.

For example: Here is DavidSW video comparing the two BLNR models. You will only hear the nickname “Batman” spoken briefly.

BLNR comparison video from DavidSW
https://youtu.be/BiOArCbEj8g

https://youtu.be/BiOArCbEj8g

Thanks for sharing the video.

Your points are well taken. Gotcha, Rolex currently does not refer to the Batgirl name. Did Rolex invent the other nicknames ie. Kermit, Pepsi, Coke, Fat Lady, etc.? My guess...probably not. Over time the nicknames were used so much
that Rolex adopted some....and freely advertise as they see fit. Too bad whomever started the nickname didn’t trademark it....whoa would I like to get those royalties...

I do understand many people do not like the Batgirl nickname, and hence the kickback....I also understand your struggle with trying to stop it ...before it becomes so commonplace that even Rolex may accept it.....or will they ever??

I understand both sides of the issue, can I sympathize with each? Hope so. It will be interesting to see how it all unfolds overtime.

[AK797]

This forum used to use BLNR and LVc but with the wave of newbies and flippers here the silly nicknames have taken over so Batman and Hulk are now used most of the time, I would have it as BLNR-J and BLNR-O to distinguish.

Don't forget when the BLNR first came out we had alot of newbies trying to call it Bruiser but we managed to stamp those lunatics down and keep hold of this asylum.

[mailman]

Originally Posted by exador

And you’ve just disrespected intellectually disabled people everywhere

I agree and it didn't go unnoticed.

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by RTG

The only haters I have noticed are from those hating the nickname batgirl. We own both 116710BLNR and 126710BLNR. Personally I hate comic book nicknames. I think they are all stupid and childish. But in-spite of that the references stick, even with my wife. As a point of separation, batman and batgirl make sense. Batgirl is faster than saying new batman, or jubilee batman.

There is no hate from my wife. She called it batgirl immediately following it’s Baselworld debut. Sticks and stones may break my bones but stupid, childish rolex names won’t hurt me. Grow up gentlemen!

Ah yes

Childish haters = a people or person that disagree with RTG (you)

Noted

[RTG]

Originally Posted by Patton250

Ah yes

Childish haters = a people or person that disagree with RTG (you)

Noted

LOL liking or disliking a nickname isn’t enough for me to hate anyone. Noticed your Patton quote. I’m pretty sure the General would tell us to focus on something more important.

[D.P.G.]

After all that has been said doesn't it make sense to separate the GMT Master ll from the dive watches. Having the jubilee bracelet on both the Pepsi and Batman leaves only a bezel color difference. I thing it was a brilliant decision by Rolex, if people insist on naming that watch if Pepsi has remained when Batman should also. Seems pretty simple to me.

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by RTG

LOL liking or disliking a nickname isn’t enough for me to hate anyone. Noticed your Patton quote. I’m pretty sure the General would tell us to focus on something more important.

It seems to me you were accusing people that dislike the name batgirl of hating and being childish. If you read this thread or at least some of my posts you would see I don’t care either way about nicknames but I was wondering where the name batgirl came from because it did seem a little derisive.

[BroncoOne]

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

Both bracelets are for MEN's watches. They are both masculine. The Jubilee has been on men's Date Just models for decades. Your rationale holds absolutely no weight.

Agreed. I actually own 2 of what I call "Better Batman," because it is superior to the old watch. I'd still love the old Batman on the oyster bracelet. Both are beautiful and highly desired pieces.

I see both as beautiful bracelets without gender. It's curious how someone calls a watch with POLISHED CENTER LINKS more masculine LOL. It's a dash of bling to differentiate it from sports Rolex watched like the Sub or Explorer.

BTW- they are both BRACELETS LOL. And I see plenty of posts of people with a Batman on an oyster wearing actual bracelets next to their watch LOL. I don't think it's feminine that some men wear bracelets. It's just a fashion trend. Not for me, but I don't care what other men wear.

GMTs aren't sports watches, unless you consider conferences calls across time zones a sport or air transportation a sport.

Trust me, if you walk into a room with a watch on a jubilee bracelet wearing a $2000 tailored suit not one lady in the room is going to think its feminine.

If you prefer oyster, put it on an oyster. If you prefer jubilee, keep it on a jubilee.

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by D.P.G.

After all that has been said doesn't it make sense to separate the GMT Master ll from the dive watches. Having the jubilee bracelet on both the Pepsi and Batman leaves only a bezel color difference. I thing it was a brilliant decision by Rolex, if people insist on naming that watch if Pepsi has remained when Batman should also. Seems pretty simple to me.

^^This has always been the bottom line and how most all view the current Rolex direction^^^^

Remember the Daytona also once came on the jubilee so the updated Daytona may also get a historic update to its bracelet........