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Old 17 July 2020, 09:11 AM   #91
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After suffering 21 years and counting a communist, environmentalist government (No government destroyed the Amazon more than the current socialist hypocrite), I can say that I have developed a total rejection of everything the OP has written in this thread. I apologize in advance to the moderator, Mr. Padi, but I had to say it.

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Old 17 July 2020, 09:26 AM   #92
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Interesting thread. Well done OP, you have articulated yourself well throughout.

Back to more serious business, anyone know why my AD won't sell me a SS Daytona?
Bc they're not sustainable to produce in SS. But in all seriousness Rolex watches last multiple generations, so they are some of the least disposable goods in existence. In a multi-factor review of ESG, disposability is probably the most important factor in evaluating long-term impact. And in this fashion, Rolex is probably one with least detrimental impacts in the world today.
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Old 17 July 2020, 09:31 AM   #93
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Nice question, and I've also learnt a lot from the answers. Thanks everyone.
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Old 17 July 2020, 12:55 PM   #94
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One of my companies larger client whos name I won't mention but they sell fruity computers and phones, etc. They are extremely keen on sustainability and it's not only related to material resources but in all levels of the business ranging from fairness in personnel reaching to all business dealings. This is routinely audited. One of the last times they did an audit it had nothing to do with the manufacturing portion of the business. I find that encouraging and refreshing unlike the discussion of the poor Rolex worker. One would think that Rolex would be a bit more conscientious in their dealings.
And yet they make everything in China, the world’s top polluter and one of the most corrupt and evil regimes in existence today? I suppose it never occurred to you that this whole sustainability audit thing is just smoke and mirrors?
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Old 17 July 2020, 01:02 PM   #95
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Hilarious post. Why dont you take a peek at some of the homes and lifestyles of the biggest pushers and proponents of climate theory. i would imagine youre fresh out of some super liberal indoctrina....i mean university.

another question for OP....if you found out today that your Rolex watches were being produced in high carbon emission, slave labor type factories...would you take your watch off and stop buying in the future?

Just stop with this nonsense
OP asked a fair question about the company's environmental practices, void of any political- or even ethical- implications or biases. Yet he seems to have evoked an overreaction on your part, and that's telling.

The environment doesn't care about your political stances, education level, or your ethics.

OP, you might find this report interesting:

https://www.wwf.ch/sites/default/fil..._final_e_0.pdf
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Old 17 July 2020, 01:43 PM   #96
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I've spent the bulk of my career working with and for environmental causes. I'm no expert but I do have a lot of exposure to the field.

For starters, at the level of manufacturing that Rolex does they have virtually no impact. They make teeny products out of commonly available materials. Even at million watches a year at an average weight of 150 grams, that's about 100 cars, 1000 refrigerators, etc. So nothing really.

Rolex has a history of supporting explorers. And explorers bring the world to us and help those who don't explore appreciate it. They support a number of expeditions, the Rolex Underwater Explorers program (of whom I have 2 friends who were ambassadors) in addition to the racing stuff.

Manufacturing computer products is really dirty in a number of ways. While the machinery used to create and test Rolexes is computer controlled, the products are not.

I would bet close to zero Rolexes end up in landfills. In addition, a Rolex has a conservative lifespan of 50 years. Compare that to nearly any other consumer product available today. And they are repaired, not replaced.

I think that those of us who support Rolex can be confident that we are buying a product that is both sustainable and environmentally friendly. As much as anything made of metal these days can be. As well as supporting a company that has long supported exploration and appreciation of the natural world.

OK, I'll get off my soapbox now.
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Old 17 July 2020, 06:53 PM   #97
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And yet they make everything in China, the world’s top polluter and one of the most corrupt and evil regimes in existence today? I suppose it never occurred to you that this whole sustainability audit thing is just smoke and mirrors?
Don’t believe everything you read about the PRC. It’s tainted and wrong.
Guess a common enemy is needed to hide our own problems.
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Just wondering how they might respond to this enquiry.

.....in comparison, to Rolex, that is.
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OP asked a fair question about the company's environmental practices, void of any political- or even ethical- implications or biases. Yet he seems to have evoked an overreaction on your part, and that's telling.

The environment doesn't care about your political stances, education level, or your ethics.

OP, you might find this report interesting:

https://www.wwf.ch/sites/default/fil..._final_e_0.pdf
Thank you very much!! will take a look!!
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And yet they make everything in China, the world’s top polluter and one of the most corrupt and evil regimes in existence today? I suppose it never occurred to you that this whole sustainability audit thing is just smoke and mirrors?
Or to you that they might be holding their Chinese manufacturing to the same level as the rest of their manufacturing. Or do you just dislike China.

https://www.apple.com/supplier-responsibility/
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