Where is the IWC Genta Ingenieur?

[AAMC]

Originally Posted by Batmannr1

Supposedly these screenshots were taken from the IWC website or Instagram when these photos were up briefly.
Looks the case will crown guards alsoThe holes seem to be there.

And… here it is

[EEpro]

Every brand needs their "Royal oak" to get people in the door. This would be theirs. I'd buy one if the price and finish was right.

[londonpilgrim]

Looking forward to this - off to W&W with IWC so will get my name down if it's nice - think they could kill it with a classic Ingenieur in ceratanium on a full ceretanium bracelet.

[djtheot]

Originally Posted by londonpilgrim

Looking forward to this - off to W&W with IWC so will get my name down if it's nice - think they could kill it with a classic Ingenieur in ceratanium on a full ceretanium bracelet.

I’m going with them to and completely agree. Ceratanium version would be epic.


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[ILoveFerrari]

Originally Posted by djtheot

I’m going with them to and completely agree. Ceratanium version would be epic.


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sorry no precious metal or anything more than stainless steel this year, thus the price is at 12k only.

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[F131F]

Originally Posted by ilovegt

sorry no precious metal or anything more than stainless steel this year, thus the price is at 12k only.

Seriously? A "blah" 8k watch will fetch 12k? Typical Richemont!

[the dark knight]

Originally Posted by F131F

Seriously? A "blah" 8k watch will fetch 12k? Typical Richemont!

Well this being an IWC, it will be 8k street price soon enough.

[ap1]

I heard it will be tougher than an oddy

[ts3]

I am a surprised about all the excitement when y'all could have gotten an 1832 any time and for rather cheap as well (10-15k until not too long ago). Personally, I'd rather have the OG than a remake in most circumstances including, for example, the 222 even if the cost is a lot higher.

That said, and despite deciding against getting an 1832 years ago, I am also curious what they have come up with as I was a big IWC fan in the late 1990s and early 2000s. An 1832 remake at the right price that is a little less chunky than the OG might do well against the likes of the Alpine Eagle which I find just weird and Laureato which I find less interesting in terms of looks.

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by ts3

Personally, I'd rather have the OG than a remake in most circumstances including, for example, the 222 even if the cost is a lot higher.

The cost of the OG is likely a bit lower in this case and while the design is true to the original the manufacturing quality (specifically the bracelet quality) isn't going to be as good as the modern one. I'm waiting for the new one myself.

[deuxani]

The current Portugieser bracelet would perfectly fit between those lugs:



In my opinion this is a bad design as it's exactly the opposite of what every Ingenieur had (it had the middle sticking out and being the single lug).

[deuxani]

My Photoshop from over a year ago might not be far from the truth then

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by deuxani

My Photoshop from over a year ago might not be far from the truth then

Looks nice. All about the end link / integration. This rendering looks good compared to later models what were basically lugs with a fat fake integration link.

[ILoveFerrari]

I found this a good read.

https://www.iwc.com/fr/en/forum/coll...ngenieurs.html

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[charger_vital]

Looking forward to the release. I'm not a fan of the same artificial limited-access / "exclusivity" model... But the "scarcity effect" marketing tactic has worked wonders in the space for many brands, so I can't blame IWC for following suit. (though I'd note that IWC is indeed a follower in many respects).

That said, if it looks like this, with the fat un-tapering bracelet with angular curves, it would be a great success in my eyes:


If it looks like this, with sharpe angles and a steep taper, however, it would be a massive disappointment.


The above "leaked pics" appear as though it will look like the latter. I hope not.

[deuxani]

Originally Posted by charger_vital

That said, if it looks like this, with the fat un-tapering bracelet with angular curves, it would be a great success in my eyes:

An un-tapering bracelet would make me run away from this watch. To me it looks really unflattering. A mix of those models would be the best solution in my opinion. This is what I could get behind:



This would already be a bit too angular for me:



By the way, all the promo material released is pointing to the graph paper design of this dial.

[dannyp]

Originally Posted by deuxani

An un-tapering bracelet would make me run away from this watch. To me it looks really unflattering.

I can't imagine an. un-tapered bracelet if the watch is going to be 40mm. Those vintage ones were more like 36, and if that bracelet already looked too wide...

[deuxani]

Yeah I think that the bracelet being that wide on a 40mm watch with no taper would mean like the bracelet being almost 24mm all around your wrist. It’s one of the reasons why I won’t consider an Octo Finissimo, as that bracelet is huge. It almost feels like wearing a bracelet instead of a watch. It’s just not my taste.

[EEpro]

This integration and taper is pinnacle in my eye.

[charger_vital]

Certainly to each his own. I like the fat bracelet because it offers a different alternative to virtually every other integrated bracelet, except perhaps for the 222, which is rather wide.

I would hate to see the IWC make something that looks indistinct from a [fill in the name] integrated watch at a distance. Be bold I say.


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[StarChow]

They look gorgeous!! What are the diameter and thickness?

[RobHK]

Thanks for the pics! First impression watch bracelet and proportions look nice.

Not sure why the crown guard was needed and is so big and more importantly the dial feels like a miss, I don't love the dial texture/style.

[ts3]

The black one is not bad at all. I didn't need the crown guards though. They look toolish and very chunky, like 13+mm thick similar to the 1832. Curious as to the actual dimensions.

Not sure about 12k but I am not up to speed on IWC pricing these days. At the same time, and having seen the new one, I'd still rather pay up for an 1832 if only it fit me a little better.

[alllexandru]

Great! I cannot wait to see them in the displays, the green looks dope!

[Batmannr1]

Really , really nice. The grey one is titanium with a fully brushed bracelet?

[deuxani]

I am very conflicted about this design. I like the chamfers, the hands and markers, the bezel, the bracelet. But I don’t like the crown guards, the screws and the dial. Maybe some live videos will change my opinion, but it’s definitely not love at first sight.

Also the black dial has brushed center links, the green has polished center links and the white seems fully blasted titanium.

[charger_vital]

The design does not look bad... But it does look very average...

Seems very similar to the watch they discontinued a few years ago except that they've added some bolt-on looking crown guards; I don't see any other unique design language compared to other integrated watches on the market?

I will remain open minded, but at first glance I feel like they mailed it in while hoping that the recent success of the integrated bracelet market in general would do the heavy lifting. I'm disappointed. But it does make me appreciate so much more the other integrated watch entries like the 222, Laurent Ferrier Sport, Czapek, and even some of the older designs like the GP who bring a unique and interesting perspective.

[CasinoRoyale_007]

Originally Posted by charger_vital

The design does not look bad... But it does look very average...

Seems very similar to the watch they discontinued a few years ago except that they've added some bolt-on looking crown guards; I don't see any other unique design language compared to other integrated watches on the market?

I will remain open minded, but at first glance I feel like they mailed it in while hoping that the recent success of the integrated bracelet market in general would do the heavy lifting. I'm disappointed. But it does make me appreciate so much more the other integrated watch entries like the 222, Laurent Ferrier Sport, Czapek, and even some of the older designs like the GP who bring a unique and interesting perspective.

I was halfway through writing my own post - but you already said everything there is to say, from my humble perspective.

[bonovox]

Originally Posted by charger_vital

The design does not look bad... But it does look very average...

Seems very similar to the watch they discontinued a few years ago except that they've added some bolt-on looking crown guards; I don't see any other unique design language compared to other integrated watches on the market?

I will remain open minded, but at first glance I feel like they mailed it in while hoping that the recent success of the integrated bracelet market in general would do the heavy lifting. I'm disappointed. But it does make me appreciate so much more the other integrated watch entries like the 222, Laurent Ferrier Sport, Czapek, and even some of the older designs like the GP who bring a unique and interesting perspective.

[ILoveFerrari]

Originally Posted by charger_vital

The design does not look bad... But it does look very average...

Seems very similar to the watch they discontinued a few years ago except that they've added some bolt-on looking crown guards; I don't see any other unique design language compared to other integrated watches on the market?

I will remain open minded, but at first glance I feel like they mailed it in while hoping that the recent success of the integrated bracelet market in general would do the heavy lifting. I'm disappointed. But it does make me appreciate so much more the other integrated watch entries like the 222, Laurent Ferrier Sport, Czapek, and even some of the older designs like the GP who bring a unique and interesting perspective.

+1

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