Ceramic Daytona vs 321 Ed White

[JohnGingerwood]

Ed White for me. I just think the speedmaster has a cooler history and I like the traditional look of it and size. Also, screw down pushers drive me nuts.

[denmanproject]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Imho there’s nothing better than a watch that is great and nobody knows. Of course omega does have some brand equity but the 321 is like having a lexus with Toyota badges.

This is one of the many things that draw me to the 321

[Enatai252]

Side by side

[7enderbender]

Between those two clearly the 321.
That said, a 321 only makes sense to me if you already have a vintage and a modern Speedy in your collection. The 321 is beautiful, but also an atypical Speedy and as a Omega and Speedy fan I think they got too much wrong with it and effectively are wasting the wonderful recreation of the 321 movement. Again, it’s pretty and if you don’t care too much about Speedy history and details or just like it the way it is no matter you’re good to go.
Daytonas are a hard pass for me in general. Busy and impractical. A piece of jewelry to go with the murse if you ask me.
All kidding aside, the Speedmaster in general is one of the most important watches ever made for obvious reasons, super reliable and practical for day to day use while it can pass for a dress-y kind of watch in a formal setting. If I could only have one watch it would be a modest 1861 or 80s 861 in good shape.

[7enderbender]

Originally Posted by Heady Topper

Love Omega, but I’m not a fan of faux vintage. I would’ve liked this watch with it’s current dial, steel bezel and hesalite, but that’s just me.

So because of that, I’d go with the Daytona. Otherwise, I might lean Speedmaster

While it’s a no (always) for any Daytona for me, I took issue with some of the neo-vintage details on the 321. I was on the list and for a call, but passed. Bought a modest 1861 instead. I was excited about the movement, but don’t like the idea of a pre-moon replica that isn’t even “correct” in most ways. Had it been in a standard Speedy case and with hesalite and non-stepped, printed logo dial, I would’ve bought it.
That said, the 321 is a clear winner over the overrated and illegible Daytona.

[7enderbender]

Originally Posted by Enatai252

Side by side

Perfect example. On the right it’s 5:26 and 54 seconds. On the left it’s almost a quarter of something.
All joking aside, on my Speedies I can read the time at any angle and any light condition - even without my glasses. My Sea Dweller requires at least some squinting and angling. A Daytona is basically useless to tell time.

[subtona]

Originally Posted by Chester01

The legibility is no joke. I use my chronographs to time things as part of my job and do need accuracy. While timing a test, I look at my daytona and there is not enough hash marks on the sub dial to be read with precision. Look closely and you will see it. Its a real problem on the 8,9, 10 minutes, then 18,19,21, 22. For me 13k+ on a watch that cannot be read accurately is a non starter. The function of a watch is to tell the time, and 13k and it cannot. I could not reconcile that and off it went.


I felt it's simply pretty jewelry, took it off and gave it to my wife that evening. That never, flat out never happened with my Speedy, ever.

[GW44]

Originally Posted by rolexperfect

Both. And at retail. :-)


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Correct answer

[Dougiebaby]

Originally Posted by Enatai252

Side by side

Left please!


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[Thomas Mudge]

It's clear, the Omega is trying to be a Rolex. But is doesn't even get close

That make the decision a no brainer.

[Lu..]

I prefer the Omega between these two. IMHO, manual wind brings the watch experience to another higher level...add the fact the historical accomplishments of the 321...how can you not pick the Ed White over a modern Daytona....

[TheWatchmen]

Originally Posted by Thomas Mudge

It's clear, the Omega is trying to be a Rolex. But is doesn't even get close

That make the decision a no brainer.

Curious, what makes it seem clear?

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by TheWatchmen

Curious, what makes it seem clear?

Ditto They are nothing alike

[subtona]

Originally Posted by Thomas Mudge

It's clear, the Omega is trying to be a Rolex. But is doesn't even get close

That make the decision a no brainer.

the speedy is closer to its original form than the modern Daytona.

the only connection I see to what you are saying is the increased price?

the speedy is using a lemania based 321 movement that hasn't been used for decades and has been desired by speedy enthusiasts for much of that time...

omega gave their customers what they wanted and set a new price for that customer satisfaction. seems fair to me.

[kwingy]

Originally Posted by brandrea

Ditto They are nothing alike

Think he is just trolling for a reaction.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by kwingy

Think he is just trolling for a reaction.

Has to be

[ml91]

Can’t even tell the time on the Daytona, dial is too busy and ugly. Only thing it has over the speedy is WR

[Agamemnon]

Despite the detractors, the poll is leaning in favor of the Daytona. :ciao:

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by Agamemnon

Despite the detractors, the poll is leaning in favor of the Daytona. :ciao:

That’s because it’s posted in the Rolex forum

I’m actually surprised the Omega is doing as well as it is.

[Driver8]

Originally Posted by Thomas Mudge

It's clear, the Omega is trying to be a Rolex. But is doesn't even get close

That make the decision a no brainer.

That's some expert level trolling right there! Have a Gold Star!

[GB-man]

Maybe one day when the speedy has ties to the wishbone family it will be competitive with everyone Daytona. Until then…

[eightball76]

I have a 116500 and if given the choice I think I would pick the 321. It looks fantastic. My only concern would be it’s practicality as a daily….. they are just so rare that you don’t get the quantity of reviews the Daytona gets.

[Santiago32]

Interesting. I thought the Omega would poll a lot lower on TRF.

Such a great speedy.

[Trog]

Collectability and brand loyalty aside, the 321 by a country mile...and this from someone who's owned both.

[zengineer]

Originally Posted by Agamemnon

The Daytona is much superior. Any Daytona outperforms any Speedmaster.
Save for the size and an old caliber, the 321 is the same as all the various Speedmasters: banal, old and with the squinting subdials.
Do you see I'm a Rolex fan?
I'm go with my Daytona Reverse Panda.

Pandas have spots. Those are doughnuts.

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[Dougiebaby]

Originally Posted by zengineer

Pandas have spots. Those are doughnuts.

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I agree, the current white dialed Daytona is not a “panda.” Using that same logic the current black dialed Daytona would be called a “reverse panda” … which it is not.

Having said that, both versions of the current Daytona are absolutely stunning in their own design.


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