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Old 24 August 2022, 03:16 PM   #91
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OP here. I decided to buy the Sub today and will see how it goes. Dealer has a certified watchmaker on staff so I asked him about the issue. He said it’s real and he’s experienced it first hand. However anecdotally problem has been limited to early run production and he hasn’t seen it much if at all in current year models. He offered to check it out and put it on the machine to see how it was performing out of the box. Scores all came back in line so I pulled the trigger. I guess time will tell, but for now I’m loving it!!

It is a great looking watch.

I do hope you win the movement lottery with this one.


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Old 24 August 2022, 03:52 PM   #92
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OP here. I decided to buy the Sub today and will see how it goes. Dealer has a certified watchmaker on staff so I asked him about the issue. He said it’s real and he’s experienced it first hand. However anecdotally problem has been limited to early run production and he hasn’t seen it much if at all in current year models. He offered to check it out and put it on the machine to see how it was performing out of the box. Scores all came back in line so I pulled the trigger. I guess time will tell, but for now I’m loving it!!
A very nice watch and looks great on you
Well done, with making an informed decision. You couldn't have done more and thanks for keeping us updated
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Old 24 August 2022, 03:58 PM   #93
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That would be a pain but at least it offers protection. My worry is what happens if the watch starts to fail at six years old? That's not a warranty fix. When it comes back from the RSC with a two year warranty, what happens if it develops more issues two and a half years later? I don't want a watch that needs servicing every 2-3 years. Then again, it could run for 20 years. We just don't know, but the 32 based movement appears to be gaining a poor reputation.
Yes, this exactly. I keep hearing, “I have five years.” Well, if you bought an SD43 in 2017, times up, and not convinced the fix is in yet.
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Old 24 August 2022, 05:27 PM   #94
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Your absolutely correct. Most of the ones returned are not really that far off the -2\+2 mark. I have been told they are returned (to the annoyance of the AD) 2 days after purchase claiming that it's running -3 spd. or +4 spd.

Their policy (AD)(mine) is to tell them to wear it for two weeks and don't touch it. Bring it back to them if you feel you have a problem. Most never return. Out of the ones that do and after being ran on a simulator are within spec.

Some that are slow are just not worn with enough activity to wind the mainspring to 50% or more.

Point being, Yes there are alot being returned, But at the same time a good portion that are returned is only a failure of the owner simply not understanding what effects a automatic movement. A $10k and up Rolex does not make a difference in the fundamentals of a automatic movement accuracy.

They are meant to be worn, everyday and enjoyed. Rolex has no machine to simulate part time wearers. On the wrist for a few hours, then back in the safe. Wear it for a few days then on to another. Just doesn't work that way.

And don't get me started on the timeagraphers! Great tool for someone who knows what there looking at. Think about it for just a minute. If a timegrapher was the absolute authority in regulating a watch, They would be perfect when they left the factory.

A watchmaker may use one to make sure there's nothing wrong. But when regulating a watch, all he or she does is make a correction based on what YOU tell them your watch is doing based on YOUR wearing habits. Be it fast or slow. Then makes a small adjustment accordingly. Wear it for a couple more weeks and make another even smaller adjustment if necessary. Spot on or as close as humanly possible until parts start to wear and lube dries up. This is routine if you want a excellent time keeper. But even after all this is done, It's just temporary.
Just the nature of a mechanical movement.
At last someone with common sense have to agree with you on all points, especially on the use of timegraphers and the rest of todays Rolex toys. .
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Old 25 August 2022, 01:35 AM   #95
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So putting the same question to you Scott, are you a buyer if your AD calls with a BLRO or another 32xx movement?

I think it’s a valid question by the OP

I’m honestly a bit skeptical of some of those who say they won’t touch them
Have to agree Brian.
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