Do you think the daytonas' had it's day???

[criggs19]

Well then you are searching a different eBay than I. I come up with 609.

[mb hawaii]

Originally Posted by criggs19

Well then you are searching a different eBay than I. I come up with 609.

Yes, your right if searching for all Daytona's including hats, end links, brochures, dials, etc, etc. After reading all posts I believe everyone is referring to the SS's premium.


Regardless, it seems anyone who owns one or wants one thinks the Daytona is still great and anyone who don't own one and never planned to own one seems to think it's over rated. Gee that's a suprise

[Veritas07]

Guys,

I read the entire tread and I will leave you with this:

Once you own ONE, you will understand.....



Bob

[improviz]

Originally Posted by criggs19

Well then you are searching a different eBay than I. I come up with 609.

How much are Omega Planet Oceans selling for on Ebay?

[criggs19]

Originally Posted by improviz

How much are Omega Planet Oceans selling for on Ebay?

For a lot less and it's a much nicer looking watch.

[improviz]

Originally Posted by improviz

How much are Omega Planet Oceans selling for on Ebay?

Sour grapes, eh? Well, I got my Planet Ocean Casino Royale (it's my beater watch) from an AD at 20% off MSRP, and this is a "limited edition" watch, so I'm sure the regular ones can be had on Ebay for much less, probably less than 1/3 the cost of the Daytona. I'm also certain that there are no wait lists for them at dealers, and that every Omega dealer in my area that I've visited has plenty of them in stock. Which, of course, brings the ol' glass houses/throwing stones thing to mind...

As to it being a much nicer looking watch, well....I'll just smile and say that's subjective, while on the other hand, which of the two watches has waitlists, sells for full MSRP at ADs and for more than full MSRP at grey market dealers, sells used for greater than its original MSRP, and is worn by more celebrities is NOT subjective.

[criggs19]

Originally Posted by improviz

Sour grapes, eh? Well, I got my Planet Ocean Casino Royale (it's my beater watch) from an AD at 20% off MSRP, and this is a "limited edition" watch, so I'm sure the regular ones can be had on Ebay for much less, probably less than 1/3 the cost of the Daytona. I'm also certain that there are no wait lists for them at dealers, and that every Omega dealer in my area that I've visited has plenty of them in stock. Which, of course, brings the ol' glass houses/throwing stones thing to mind...

As to it being a much nicer looking watch, well....I'll just smile and say that's subjective, while on the other hand, which of the two watches has waitlists, sells for full MSRP at ADs and for more than full MSRP at grey market dealers, sells used for greater than its original MSRP, and is worn by more celebrities is NOT subjective.

A beater watch, well I guess I should be in awe of your wealth and regal presence for owning that Daytona. My Planet Ocean is my every day watch too, but I haven't made the splash into pretending that I'm James Bond yet. I wear my Bluesy on days when I am in court or have to wear a suit. On very special occasions I wear my 1965 Patek Philippe, Genève, but being worth triple digits I don't like to leave the house with it very often. So we can all be pretentious if we want to. In my humble opinion, most Rolex owners are more into seen with an expensive watch and Omega owners want a nice every day watch that actually keeps good time and looks good at the same time. I believe that most Omega Chronos look much better than the Daytona.

And several ADs within 100 miles of little Pensacola, Florida have Daytonas as we speak.

[WatchSnob]

No way! The Daytona is still a great piece, the economy and market is just horrid right now. It is hard to sell anything. I never wanted a Daytona before as it did not have a date, now having the PAM 236 I realize it is very hard to pull of a date on a chrono without the date getting lost in the dial. The only Chrono I really crave that has a date and is a higher end piece would be the AP ROO for certain.

[train-time]

There are 638 Rolex Daytona related items listed on eBay right now, 102 are SS Daytonas including Zeniths. New ones are generally listed consideralby over MSRP. I believe we are talking about the SS Daytona in this thread. If you want to pay $1000 or $2000 over list, go to eBay!

[mb hawaii]

Originally Posted by train-time

There are 638 Rolex Daytona related items listed on eBay right now, 102 are SS Daytonas including Zeniths. New ones are generally listed consideralby over MSRP. I believe we are talking about the SS Daytona in this thread. If you want to pay $1000 or $2000 over list, go to eBay!

Lol, you took the time to count each SS listing. I was too lazy to do that

[ASH]

IMHO the white dial ss Daytona is the prettiest Rolex ever made.

[Czechman]

Gentlemen, please take this outside.

[Brunotheboxer]

This argument has gone on since I joined this forum. It seems like no one ever wins either.

[Czechman]

All this stuff really accomplishes is to ruin the credibility of the participants.

[Army_Doc]

ohh man, don't tell me that...I just bought one!

[criggs19]

Sorry, had a sick baby to tend to. I have seen the light and the error in my ways improviz. I am rude, poor white trash and bow to you as a Daytona owner. I am going to trash all of my watches and strive to do better. I'm sorry for insulting your beloved Daytonas.

[DCGuy1965]

I have not read thru all 7 pages of the thread but my 2 cents is this - the thrill of the hunt got me. I managed to get a Z series back in 2006 for 7900 JUST DAYS after the price increase from 6975. I'd be willing to bet what's left in my 401K the AD was holding out before calling me. I do love the watch and the no date feature for me actually is a desirable trait. Don't get me wrong I love the cyclops date feature but every now and then I'm in the mood to go basic.

[Singslinger]

I think it's a question of degree, size of the premium, timing and economic conditions. At one time (maybe 3-4 years ago), the S/S Daytona commanded a large premium over its MRSP, perhaps as high as 50% in some countries. There could have been many reasons for this, among them perceived scarcity. But whatever it was, people were willing to pay a lot of money for the watch.

Because of the 2007-2008 economic downturn, I believe the Daytona's premium then shrank considerably - quite understandably, in my view. Rolexes are luxury items and so spending on such items would logically be cut back in hard times. The degree of shrinkage may have varied among countries but here in Singapore, a new S/S Daytona could be had from an AD for just over MRSP a year ago (around 5%).

However, because prices had fallen by so much, demand quickly emerged and so the watch now sells for around 10-15% above MRSP at ADs - perhaps not as big a premium as it was a few years ago but a premium nonetheless.

I also think it's interesting to compare the Daytona's experience these past 2-3 years with that of the Milgauss GV. When the latter was first issued, perceived scarcity (and a false rumour that it was a limited edition) drove the premium over MRSP to 100%. In the two years since, the premium has completely disappeared and the watch now sells either at MRSP or a slight discount.

I wonder - both watches commanded large premiums that shrank during the economic crisis but the Daytona's price has held up better, which to me suggests demand is relatively greater. It'll certainly be interesting to see how large that premium grows if the economy continues to recover.

[mb hawaii]

Originally Posted by Singslinger

I think it's a question of degree, size of the premium, timing and economic conditions. At one time (maybe 3-4 years ago), the S/S Daytona commanded a large premium over its MRSP, perhaps as high as 50% in some countries. There could have been many reasons for this, among them perceived scarcity. But whatever it was, people were willing to pay a lot of money for the watch.

Because of the 2007-2008 economic downturn, I believe the Daytona's premium then shrank considerably - quite understandably, in my view. Rolexes are luxury items and so spending on such items would logically be cut back in hard times. The degree of shrinkage may have varied among countries but here in Singapore, a new S/S Daytona could be had from an AD for just over MRSP a year ago (around 5%).

However, because prices had fallen by so much, demand quickly emerged and so the watch now sells for around 10-15% above MRSP at ADs - perhaps not as big a premium as it was a few years ago but a premium nonetheless.

I also think it's interesting to compare the Daytona's experience these past 2-3 years with that of the Milgauss GV. When the latter was first issued, perceived scarcity (and a false rumour that it was a limited edition) drove the premium over MRSP to 100%. In the two years since, the premium has completely disappeared and the watch now sells either at MRSP or a slight discount.

I wonder - both watches commanded large premiums that shrank during the economic crisis but the Daytona's price has held up better, which to me suggests demand is relatively greater. It'll certainly be interesting to see how large that premium grows if the economy continues to recover.

Nicely said

[train-time]

Originally Posted by Singslinger

I think it's a question of degree, size of the premium, timing and economic conditions. At one time (maybe 3-4 years ago), the S/S Daytona commanded a large premium over its MRSP, perhaps as high as 50% in some countries. There could have been many reasons for this, among them perceived scarcity. But whatever it was, people were willing to pay a lot of money for the watch.

Because of the 2007-2008 economic downturn, I believe the Daytona's premium then shrank considerably - quite understandably, in my view. Rolexes are luxury items and so spending on such items would logically be cut back in hard times. The degree of shrinkage may have varied among countries but here in Singapore, a new S/S Daytona could be had from an AD for just over MRSP a year ago (around 5%).

However, because prices had fallen by so much, demand quickly emerged and so the watch now sells for around 10-15% above MRSP at ADs - perhaps not as big a premium as it was a few years ago but a premium nonetheless.

I also think it's interesting to compare the Daytona's experience these past 2-3 years with that of the Milgauss GV. When the latter was first issued, perceived scarcity (and a false rumour that it was a limited edition) drove the premium over MRSP to 100%. In the two years since, the premium has completely disappeared and the watch now sells either at MRSP or a slight discount.

I wonder - both watches commanded large premiums that shrank during the economic crisis but the Daytona's price has held up better, which to me suggests demand is relatively greater. It'll certainly be interesting to see how large that premium grows if the economy continues to recover.

Your observations and comparison are right on point. As I have continued to read this thread, the GV also came into mind, as well as the GMTIIc. I also believe that the current SS Daytona situation is merely a result of supply and demand. Years ago the supply was short and the demand brisk driving up prices. The supply has increased because the demand has decreased, IMO because the the economy. It's that simple. I don't believe Rolex has increased production, it's just there are fewed people ready to drop $10K on a watch today. Compared to other models, the Daytona has and continues to do OK in my book. What the future will bring, nobody can tell.

[JG99]

In the UK there are still big waiting lists.

I spoke to one AD the other day and they had a customer who met a customer wearing a SS Daytona who was offered a big premium on the spot to sell it! No everyone is aware of these forums, and right now the economy is screwed.

It's a great watch, but I must admit I'd have to let it go before my GMTIIc...

[mike]

Originally Posted by Singslinger

I think it's a question of degree, size of the premium, timing and economic conditions. At one time (maybe 3-4 years ago), the S/S Daytona commanded a large premium over its MRSP, perhaps as high as 50% in some countries. There could have been many reasons for this, among them perceived scarcity. But whatever it was, people were willing to pay a lot of money for the watch.

Because of the 2007-2008 economic downturn, I believe the Daytona's premium then shrank considerably - quite understandably, in my view. Rolexes are luxury items and so spending on such items would logically be cut back in hard times. The degree of shrinkage may have varied among countries but here in Singapore, a new S/S Daytona could be had from an AD for just over MRSP a year ago (around 5%).

However, because prices had fallen by so much, demand quickly emerged and so the watch now sells for around 10-15% above MRSP at ADs - perhaps not as big a premium as it was a few years ago but a premium nonetheless.

I also think it's interesting to compare the Daytona's experience these past 2-3 years with that of the Milgauss GV. When the latter was first issued, perceived scarcity (and a false rumour that it was a limited edition) drove the premium over MRSP to 100%. In the two years since, the premium has completely disappeared and the watch now sells either at MRSP or a slight discount.

I wonder - both watches commanded large premiums that shrank during the economic crisis but the Daytona's price has held up better, which to me suggests demand is relatively greater. It'll certainly be interesting to see how large that premium grows if the economy continues to recover.

Well put.

[sea-dweller]

No, the Daytona is still a beautiful Rolex.

[ronintt]

I saw, i liked, i bought.

End of.

[Rolex997]

It's funny to see how many well informed "intelligent" responses you get versus the opposite when a subjective question like this is asked. In my humble opinion, the economic downturn has reduced the available money in the market for all goods. The luxury items are the ones to be hardest hit at these times. I think that those statements are a given. The number of people that would like to spend $12500 for a SS Daytona have probably not decreased. However, the number of people that are now able to spend that or even $10000 on one has decreased. Despite recent price increases, AD's are still selling their stock of SS Daytona's at MSRP. I think I would be safe in saying that there are a very limited number of luxury items in the market that the same can be said for. My wife and I recently shopped for and purchased a "luxury" vehicle for a price that would have been unheard of a few years ago. Each luxury brand that we looked at were offering similar discounts and incentives. Does that mean that Porsche, BMW, Mercedez Benz and Lexus have all become less desirable or just less easily attained financially by less people?

[JG99]

I was chatting to the guy in the Rolex store at Amsterdam Airport yesterday. He told me that the demand is huge for the stainless Daytona there, and his record for selling one that arrived is 22 seconds!

Obviously it's at an airport with a lot of people with money traveling through, but still.... They had a Milgauss GV in the case that hadn't flown out yet!

In the US is seems they are far more available than in europe.

[janc]

Robert,
Like a few other members I was very tempted by your watch.
One of the reasons I just couldnt pull the trigger was just the fact that it is a fact that there is good competition now out there at that kind of price level-both rolex and other brands imho.
Price was the biggest factor for sure.
Having previously owned a ss white daytona and loved it I have long craved another and I just think it is a such a beauitiful time piece(havent entirely said no).However price levels are getting silly imho when the economy is like it is.
Hope you got a good price anyway for what was an A1 example.

[BillA]

I think the SS Datona is dead.
Please email me your SS Daytona details, I am buying for 50% off list. LOL

[Mathemagician]

Just a single data point FWIW... if not for the fact that I LOVED the IIc when I handled it in person I would have bought a Daytona. Still might at some point (and still casually look at Daytonas for sale), but I genuinely believe I prefer the IIc and I'm not sure a Daytona would get much wrist time.

[harvey]

wish someone here could help me get a white dialled one for rrp!