Rolex vs AP

[GeraldJ19]

I have huge respect for AP and their designs. I just cannot get over the fact of how much they remind me of an erector set.


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[Cru Jones]

[bio guyver]

He he he who says ferrari do the best super cars in my opinion maclaren way more better so when I compared rolex with ferrari I meant those to are will nown for the public as they are superior.

[bmwatts]

Bio guyver, no offense but I'm having a hard time following anything you say
-you first say rolex is the best because of their innovations and resale value(understandable reasons but most people in this forum discuss things without trying to demean others, how you worded it will make people not take you too seriously imo, but thats just my opinion. maybe others won't agree with me)
-then you go on to say that you wanted to say they are both in the same league and neither are better than each other but they each have their advantages and disadvantages(which i personally agree with, and i believe most do too)
-but then right after that you dare any high end watch maker to say they are better than rolex in public(which they would never do because i believe all of these watch makers have respect for the other brands). and then you say another reason why you think rolex is the best(which contradicts you last post)

as you can see, for me at least, its tough to follow because each post contradicts the previous. and i disagree with the car brands. what makes ferrari better than rolls royce? 2 completely different cars for completely different uses. they each have things the other is better than them at. but if you're buying a watch or a car because of its perceived status symbol and to get people to know what it is you bought, then you are never going to be happy. buy what you like for yourself and don't factor in how much others will know what you bought and you will enjoy the watch more :thumbs:


sorry for the lack of quotes, i don't know how to do more than 1 in a message so i just didn't do any

[bio guyver]

If you want to see it as a race between the watch high end brand rolex is leading the way in the public although they start the watch making after Ap and Pp. Is it magic or what or is that means that they are better than the others. What kind of magic they use hehehe

[bmwatts]

Originally Posted by bio guyver

If you want to see it as a race between the watch high end brand rolex is leading the way in the public although they start the watch making after Ap and Pp. Is it magic or what or is that means that they are better than the others. What kind of magic they use hehehe

so would you consider bmw better than lamborghini? bmw has more sales than lamborghini. bmw has had a dual clutch gear box for many years while lamborghini just pretty much just adopted audis for the recent huracan. i personally don't think there is a way to really compare either of the 2 watches or cars to get a definite answer

[bio guyver]

Bmwatts, thanks, hoanghung45, if you like Ap or Pp or rolex. That's mean you want to show off because if you don't want you will never think of those watchs any watch will suit your needs. These kind of watches is a way to treat your self after you achieved your goals. This is the truth so why will you pay all this cash for a watch.

[Watch This]

Originally Posted by bio guyver

Bmwatts, thanks, hoanghung45, if you like Ap or Pp or rolex. That's mean you want to show off because if you don't want you will never think of those watchs any watch will suit your needs. These kind of watches is a way to treat your self after you achieved your goals. This is the truth so why will you pay all this cash for a watch.

My goodness I hope for your sake that English is your second language.

[bmwatts]

maybe its just me but everytime i buy something cheap i end up getting what i paid for. i do like to have the best things that i can afford, but i want them because i like them. honestly, i really don't care what people think about my watches. there are many reasons to buy a high end watch over a cheap one that don't require you to buy it for perceived perception, as long as you have the money to spend on them. i will admit that i do like having the best things i can afford, but its hardly because i want people to look at them and try to show off

[bio guyver]

Compar BMW to a lexus. Lamborghini with ferrari. Try to be clear. try to understand. When I say rolex I mean in the same luxury level.

[bmwatts]

Originally Posted by bio guyver

Compar BMW to a lexus. Lamborghini with ferrari. Try to be clear. try to understand. When I say rolex I mean in the same luxury level.

i compared ferrari to a rolls royce, i said they were 2 completely different types of cars, just like rolex and AP. doesn't make one any better or worse than the other. i was just using the bmw vs ferrari comparison because you made the statement that because they sold more that they must be a superior company

[bio guyver]

Rolex level is the high end watch. If you see something else it's up to you. When I say rolex I mean high end watch level.

[superdog]

My dad can beat up your dad.

[SMD]

Originally Posted by superdog

My dad can beat up your dad.

Yale is way better than Harvard.

[Hairdude1]

Originally Posted by SMD

Yale is way better than Harvard.

[GB-man]

Can't believe I read this...

[kilyung]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Can't believe I read this...

Fortunately my Spidey sense kicked in so I haven't read it... Except your post.

[Etschell]

Originally Posted by watchlover135

So many have such different views. Some think AP is a one watch wonder (Royal oak). Some swear by AP as the very best out there, some say AP is on a much higher level than Rolex. Some say Rolex is #1 and always will be. What are your thought as to which wins out in quality, design, reliability, durability, and holding of value ?


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for me it goes like this:

1. Patek
2. Rolex
3. AP
4. everyone else.

I understand #4 is a generalization and that brands such as FP Journe of A. Lange are great in their own right. They just dont have the brand presence, among not WIS, due to what they are trying to be.

[Le Chef]

Originally Posted by Etschell

brands such as FP Journe of A. Lange are great in their own right. They just dont have the brand presence, among not WIS, due to what they are trying to be.

Non-WIS are not by their very nature interested in what goes on inside a watch - they buy for the brand name and perceived status.

I'd always assumed that the people who visited this forum were WIS or wanted at least to learn about Rolex and other watch manufacturers from people with first hand experience of those brands.

To say that FP Journe and Lange are in some way inferior to Rolex because they lack brand awareness is to exclude a huge piece of knowledge about what makes those manufacturers highly respected and to whom, and to instead just focus on brand awareness. If brand awareness is the most important thing to you then might I suggest taking a second look at Swatch or TAG...

[bio guyver]

I think he talking about expensive watches not swatch or tag. By the way it's good we all have this conversation it was fun.

[Etschell]

Originally Posted by Le Chef

Non-WIS are not by their very nature interested in what goes on inside a watch - they buy for the brand name and perceived status.

I'd always assumed that the people who visited this forum were WIS or wanted at least to learn about Rolex and other watch manufacturers from people with first hand experience of those brands.

To say that FP Journe and Lange are in some way inferior to Rolex because they lack brand awareness is to exclude a huge piece of knowledge about what makes those manufacturers highly respected and to whom, and to instead just focus on brand awareness. If brand awareness is the most important thing to you then might I suggest taking a second look at Swatch or TAG...

Perhaps I was not clear. If I were to have a complication dress watch, which is what Patek, Journe and Lange do best, it sure would be a Patek. The history behind Patek is stronger in my opinion. There is no right or wrong. You are misconstruing my personal brand ranking list - take it for what it is.

[capote]

Originally Posted by Etschell

for me it goes like this:

1. Patek
2. Rolex
3. AP
4. everyone else.

I understand #4 is a generalization and that brands such as FP Journe of A. Lange are great in their own right. They just dont have the brand presence, among not WIS, due to what they are trying to be.

Interesting list. Why is Patek number one?

[Etschell]

Originally Posted by capote

Interesting list. Why is Patek number one?

Because I perceive it to be.

[Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by watchlover135

So many have such different views. Some think Seiko is a one watch wonder (Monster). Some swear by Citizen as the very best out there, some say Citizen is on a much higher level than Seiko. Some say Seiko is #1 and always will be. What are your thought as to which wins out in quality, design, reliability, durability, and holding of value ?


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(is it April 1st?)

[Sumitaro]

Rolex is the Best!
1.Rolex
2. PP, AP, VC
3. Etc, who cares.

ROLLIE ON A DAILY BABY PLEASE!

[KarlS]

I was hoping this was an April Fools joke but it's not!! I vote for Tudor

[Baco Noir]

AP puts a lot of hand finishing work into their watches - a nice mix of modern manufacturing and old school artistry.

https://youtu.be/K0uW37FnCLM

https://youtu.be/Bh1Xww576Yc

[singe89]

So much of horology is history and tradition. AP still makes and restores watches in the same room that Jules Audemars and Edward Piguet did in 1875. They will service and restore any watch that they have ever made. AP will even service watches from other manufactures from the Vallee de Joux that are no longer in business. They do this to help preserve the history and tradition of haute horology in the pinnacle area of watchmaking in Switzerland. AP also blends old world watch making with modern materials and movements. Some of the movements coming out of APRP are nothing short of amazing.

http://youtu.be/v-s0esDbLS0

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/in...et-renaud-papi


I love Rolex and AP but they really shouldn't be compared on who's "better"? They have a completely different approach to watch making and only have overlap on a few watch models/price levels. Both brands belong in a collection.

I read an article from a famous watch collector saying that you don't have to like the RO/ROO but you have to respect AP for their history, tradition and complicated movements. I agree the RO isn't for everyone but after my visit to Le Brassus I can say AP has earned their respect.

[Baco Noir]

One other thing that AP will do that Rolex will not is service any age AP. If they do not have parts for it, they will make them again if needed. From their website:

Q. How can I restore a vintage Audemars Piguet timepiece?
A. We invite you to drop off your timepiece to an Audemars Piguet boutique, repair center or authorized retailer. We will then send it to our restoration workshop in Le Brassus.

[capote]

Originally Posted by Baco Noir

One other thing that AP will do that Rolex will not is service any age AP. If they do not have parts for it, they will make them again if needed. From their website:

Q. How can I restore a vintage Audemars Piguet timepiece?
A. We invite you to drop off your timepiece to an Audemars Piguet boutique, repair center or authorized retailer. We will then send it to our restoration workshop in Le Brassus.

That is what VC, PP and AP all say. I wonder what they would say if you told them you wanted a new case or bracelet for a vintage Nautilus, Royal Oak or 222. I really don't think they will make a one off for a customer. Or maybe they say:"Fine, this will cost 150K and take 5 years".