SD43 demanding Daytona C premiums?

[breitlings]

Originally Posted by StarryNights

The only issue I see with being impatient is that if you pay that asking price, once the price and supply normalizes, you lose that extra 7k you paid for it and can never get it back. It's a great watch and it's really growing on me, but patience is key.

Unless Red letters only last one year and there aren't many delivered (and they become sought after and appreciate).

[gregmoeck]

First SS blue skydweller price ?

[Hamish]

David is a great guy....if people don't like it then move on

[HogwldFLTR]

No thanks for the model; no thanks for the price.

[JoeG74536]

On any given day something is worth as much as another man will pay for it. He's there to sale watches for more than he paid for them.

[jonnyz1245]

Its simple supply and demand. If you don't like the price, don't buy it. Can't begrudge a businessman for selling something for market value.

[GB-man]

The moral of this story is that people are aloof to Davids clientele. They are assuming everyone who buys from him is looking for a sub c with a 15% discount. He has many more clients lmfao

[rph08]

I've got no problem with David's price on the new SD43. If someone is going to be so impatient that they are willing to part with that kind of money for an SD, then more power to them. They better be dang sure this is the watch they want, because they'll likely NEVER get anywhere close to that out of it if they decide to sell later.

[ffighter556]

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[watchwatcher]

Hasn't it been fairly normal for "hot" watches to hit the gray market with a hefty premium...at least lately?

Usually, they settle down to "normal" pricing, unless you're talking about the Daytona-C, of course.

As far as David, the man knows the market, that's for sure. What's that saying...Don't hate the playa, hate the game?

[Bigsykedaddy]

The price is crazy but more power to him if he can get it. I sell shoes for 3x 4x retail sometimes and people pay it. Some shoes are harder to get so the price is higher. Good for him I hope someone buys it, but I sure as hell won't be paying that much for a SD43

[droptopman]

No issue with David posting his price. Market will decide what it is worth. I like David and will do business with him again. I'm not in the market for this watch but if I was I would be tempted to jump the line and try to work out a deal.

Observation of the market though. The Daytona 116500 still has a lot of demand and it was an updated version of a watch that has been out for some time.
The SD50 is pretty much a totally new watch. New everything, not just a dial and bezel.

Not taking a position just an observation on the market and demand.

[JP Chestnut]

Originally Posted by droptopman

No issue with David posting his price. Market will decide what it is worth. I like David and will do business with him again. I'm not in the market for this watch but if I was I would be tempted to jump the line and try to work out a deal.

Observation of the market though. The Daytona 116500 still has a lot of demand and it was an updated version of a watch that has been out for some time.
The SD50 is pretty much a totally new watch. New everything, not just a dial and bezel.

Not taking a position just an observation on the market and demand.

It's all supply side. If they make Daytona numbers of these, the prices will be crazy. If not, it will end up another sub - pricewise.

[gregmoeck]

Lol free marketing it is..what's the price of the first SS skydweller?

[henry333]

Just the first few that can't wait other wise it will be in stock at ad.
Won't be a watch that is hard to get later on down the line

[lee fowler]

Originally Posted by henry333

Just the first few that can't wait other wise it will be in stock at ad.
Won't be a watch that is hard to get later on down the line

Sorry but I disagree, I cannot see this ever being in stock at an AD.

[speedmaster73]

Originally Posted by lee fowler

Sorry but I disagree, I cannot see this ever being in stock at an AD.

its a UK thing bro.....

NA is a much different animal

[lee fowler]

Originally Posted by speedmaster73

its a UK thing bro.....

NA is a much different animal

Indeed and how many have you seen in Canada??

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by lee fowler

Indeed and how many have you seen in Canada??

Only two that I know of at the boutique in Toronto and they were gone as soon as they became available

I happen to know the other guy who got one

I was told they will hit boutiques worldwide first, then filter down to Ads

[henry333]

Originally Posted by lee fowler

Sorry but I disagree, I cannot see this ever being in stock at an AD.

Your from uk. There always nothing there especial ss sports models. Come check out the US. Many in stock but we don't get your kind of good prices.

[gregmoeck]

Gotta pay for those court side seats and fancy sneakers

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by gregmoeck

Gotta pay for those court side seats and fancy sneakers

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by GB-man

[Old Expat Beast]

So many incomings of this model from ADs at msrp already, I'm surprised it's fetching any kind of mark up.

[Wingman244]

I am shocked, shocked to the core. Reading this forum one would think the new SD43 is the least desirable watch in the collection. The oversized case and of all things the cyclops.

Rolex should be paying people to wear this watch.

[Fleetlord]

If you want this watch specifically and have the funds, it's the best way to go...

No AD lists to contend with. All the favoritism and nonsense that go on with that...

No need to spend $$$$$ on a purchase history just to be put on this honorable list..

Want the watch? Here it is. This is the premium to avoid all that hassle and have it NOW. Take it or leave it...

[schnitzerphilip]

Originally Posted by brandrea

Interesting point of view and never thought of comparing it to vintage

You may have stirred up a hornets nest

Originally Posted by AS1

well said

Originally Posted by Daytonaman799

This is a GREAT point. In the meantime if you walk into a boutique in NYC they basically laugh at you when you bring it up or you can go here and get one from DavidSw or other trusted sellers. In some ways its more satisfying to buy it here. How wants to be laughed at when they are seeking a DaytonaC or SD or any other watch fir that matter. Dignity has a price too....

Originally Posted by Fleetlord

If you want this watch specifically and have the funds, it's the best way to go...No AD lists to contend with. All the favoritism and nonsense that go on with that...No need to spend $$$$$ on a purchase history just to be put on this honorable list..This is the premium to avoid all that hassle and have it NOW. Take it or leave it...

Thank you for the support, Gents. It's not like I wanted to pay more, but it was my only option as I'm not one of these special preferred customers who buys a few luxury watches a year and has a relationship with an AD. A year ago within 24 hours of Basel I got myself on the 5th Avenue NYC AD waiting list and was number 68. I called the dealer a year later, he acted like I was bothering him with my question, as if calling him once a year was some big hardship for him. He tells me I'm now number 58.

With that reward for my patience and doing it the so-called "right way", I found a grey dealer locally through this forum, grabbed a $3,500 Datejust I never wore to make up the purchase price delta, and within a day had a Daytona Ceramic on my wrist.

So thank God for grey dealers. Whether selling us below MSRP on a more common timepiece or selling us above MSRP for something incredibly hard to obtain, they serve a meaningful function for those of us who only buy a new Rolex every 5 or 10 years.

[Goin2drt]

No name calling and I really don't care what anyone does with their money HOWEVER the difference to me between premium and vintage is this. Usually when that vintage example is obtained it is valued at that amount or could go up. When someone spends $7k over as in the Davidsw example the real value will be less when the frenzy is over therefore to me and only in my own personal opinion wasting that money if the difference between the premium and real value. End if the day I don't buy vintage and I don't pay over MSRP so just my observation.

[schnitzerphilip]

Originally Posted by Goin2drt

No name calling and I really don't care what anyone does with their money HOWEVER the difference to me between premium and vintage is this. Usually when that vintage example is obtained it is valued at that amount or could go up. When someone spends $7k over as in the Davidsw example the real value will be less when the frenzy is over therefore to me and only in my own personal opinion wasting that money if the difference between the premium and real value. End if the day I don't buy vintage and I don't pay over MSRP so just my observation.

Good post and I respect your opinion. Here's my counter to your argument:

Vintage (I own several pieces) is high-risk. We're at or near the very top of the market and these watches don't last forever, we know they have parts like bezels, dials, hands, and cases that all erode over time, and the retro craze can go out of fashion in a finger snap. So to say that they "could go up" needs to be cautioned with a very big "yeah, but they could go way down too" if finicky trendy buyers decide that old cameras or Sony Walkmen are the next must-have instead of a piece of jewelry.

As for "wasting money", how do you define that? Just last week I paid my terrible football team $4,500 for season tickets that will probably produce the enjoyment of one home victory. Over the weekend, I paid $7,000 for two of my kids to attend 7 weeks of summer camp. Just today, I paid $3,200 for 2 nights hotel in Santorini Greece for a trip in June. Tickets, camp, vacation. $14,700. Is that "wasted"? All my family is going to get are some memories, by the time October rolls around it would seem that we lit that money on fire.

So what's the big deal about overpaying $3,500 to get a Daytona that will live on my wrist for 20 years? Am I not getting more enjoyment and more "value" for my money through a watch than these other endeavors?

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by schnitzerphilip

Good post and I respect your opinion. Here's my counter to your argument:

Vintage (I own several pieces) is high-risk. We're at or near the very top of the market and these watches don't last forever, we know they have parts like bezels, dials, hands, and cases that all erode over time, and the retro craze can go out of fashion in a finger snap. So to say that they "could go up" needs to be cautioned with a very big "yeah, but they could go way down too" if finicky trendy buyers decide that old cameras or Sony Walkmen are the next must-have instead of a piece of jewelry.

As for "wasting money", how do you define that? Just last week I paid my terrible football team $4,500 for season tickets that will probably produce the enjoyment of one home victory. Over the weekend, I paid $7,000 for two of my kids to attend 7 weeks of summer camp. Just today, I paid $3,200 for 2 nights hotel in Santorini Greece for a trip in June. Tickets, camp, vacation. $14,700. Is that "wasted"? All my family is going to get are some memories, by the time October rolls around it would seem that we lit that money on fire.

So what's the big deal about overpaying $3,500 to get a Daytona that will live on my wrist for 20 years? Am I not getting more enjoyment and more "value" for my money through a watch than these other endeavors?

That's a hell of a room in Santorini I like how you roll

Carry on ...