Love Rolex but this is why I like Tudor even more

[Art 1]

Originally Posted by SS Oyster

To me, seems like people buy Tudor when they just can’t quite afford the comparable Rolex, which IMO is far more refined.

I could never bring myself to buy a Tudor as I would just kick myself for not buying the superior product.

It would (for me) be like buying the Hyundai Genesis instead of getting the Mercedes the Genesis was built to imitate. To me, it’s still just a Hyundai.


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This is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read on this forum.

[Rsubnodate]

Originally Posted by SS Oyster

To me, seems like people buy Tudor when they just can’t quite afford the comparable Rolex, which IMO is far more refined.

I could never bring myself to buy a Tudor as I would just kick myself for not buying the superior product.

It would (for me) be like buying the Hyundai Genesis instead of getting the Mercedes the Genesis was built to imitate. To me, it’s still just a Hyundai.


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This kind of response is what gives watch collectors a bad name.

[Jamhot]

I have several Rolex watches which I accumulated over the years and yet I bought my 1st Tudor last year which is the BB58. It's not just about what you can afford, it's what you like that counts. I have been wearing the Tudor as a daily since I got it.

[samson66]

Originally Posted by SS Oyster

To me, seems like people buy Tudor when they just can’t quite afford the comparable Rolex, which IMO is far more refined.

I could never bring myself to buy a Tudor as I would just kick myself for not buying the superior product.

It would (for me) be like buying the Hyundai Genesis instead of getting the Mercedes the Genesis was built to imitate. To me, it’s still just a Hyundai

You post some good stuff on this forum and some great photos, but my God what a terrible insulting post this is. If your only reason for buying a Roles is to say to the world, "Hey, Look at me! I'm wearing a ROLEX!!!" then I guess you should just continue to buy the same watch over and over.

Many of us here like a little variety. There are many Swiss watches of differing price points that are terrific to own. There are plenty of reasons to look into Tudor. Tudor makes the fun watches that Rolex won't produce. Tudor gives you more bang for the buck than just about any Swiss watch out there, and you don't have to ask "is it safe..." every time you leave the house.

Posts like yours are the reason so many in the public think of Rolex wearers as douche bags that are just trying to show off their wealth.

[Syed117]

Always liked the black bays, but never liked the thickness.

Then they released the 58 which is perfect and the only Tudor that I loved enough to get.

Wears better than the current ceramic submariner. Do wish it had a micro adjustment in the clasp though.

As with most Tudor threads, lots of dumb "poor man's Rolex" opinions being thrown around. It's the easiest way to spot the people who care more about the letters on the dial than the watches themselves.

[Jonesy2099]

Originally Posted by samson66

You post some good stuff on this forum and some great photos, but my God what a terrible insulting post this is. If your only reason for buying a Roles is to say to the world, "Hey, Look at me! I'm wearing a ROLEX!!!" then I guess you should just continue to buy the same watch over and over.

Many of us here like a little variety. There are many Swiss watches of differing price points that are terrific to own. There are plenty of reasons to look into Tudor. Tudor makes the fun watches that Rolex won't produce. Tudor gives you more bang for the buck than just about any Swiss watch out there, and you don't have to ask "is it safe..." every time you leave the house.

Posts like yours are the reason so many in the public think of Rolex wearers as douche bags that are just trying to show off their wealth.

Actually the person you’re criticising was just saying he preferred the superior product. I agree with them. It’s nothing to do with shouting out “I’m wearing a Rolex”. The truth is that most people don’t notice which watch you’re wearing. It sounds like you want to justify to yourself that Tudor is comparable to Rolex and this is fine. To start throwing insults around is not so fine! Chill out!

[samson66]

Originally Posted by Jonesy2099

Actually the person you’re criticising was just saying he preferred the superior product. I agree with them. It’s nothing to do with shouting out “I’m wearing a Rolex”. The truth is that most people don’t notice which watch you’re wearing. It sounds like you want to justify to yourself that Tudor is comparable to Rolex and this is fine. To start throwing insults around is not so fine! Chill out!

#1 I'm in no way trying to justify anything in terms of Tudor vs Rolex. I own two Rolexes, a Tudor, and an Omega. I don't need to justify anything. Very different watches and different price points. I thought I was pretty clear on that.

#2 I didn't insult the poster directly, I said that posts like that are why so many folks unfortunately see Rolex owners as douche bags. I complimented the person on his other posts, just not this one.

If you want to disagree with me, fine. But if you think I'm trying to justify my purchase as if I couldn't afford the "superior" Rolex, you are way off the mark. I could have bought three Tudors for the price of my SD43.

[Waxtactic]

So, I'm with the OP (and it seems a good portion of you other solid folks). I own a Sub no date & a polar 16570, both of which I am in complete love with. But here's the thing, I'm in the AD yesterday, ready to purchase another Rolex and was completely taken aback by the BlackBay GMT Pepsi. Tried it on and this bloody siren's call just started emanating from it. Knowning what I know about the brand, the quality of the build, the 70 hr reserve and it just became a no brainer. Picked it up and dont see myself looking back.

[Ophtheus]

The hate will always come from Tudor trying to replicate the submariner. Watches are a matter of personal taste; people think my SS ym2 is an Invicta, I couldnt care less, and I find no reason to correct them.

[Art 1]

Originally Posted by Waxtactic

So, I'm with the OP (and it seems a good portion of you other solid folks). I own a Sub no date & a polar 16570, both of which I am in complete love with. But here's the thing, I'm in the AD yesterday, ready to purchase another Rolex and was completely taken aback by the BlackBay GMT Pepsi. Tried it on and this bloody siren's call just started emanating from it. Knowning what I know about the brand, the quality of the build, the 70 hr reserve and it just became a no brainer. Picked it up and dont see myself looking back.

Congrats, it's a wonderful watch. One I'm sure to have someday. The bracelet on my chrono is very very nice, silky looking, maybe better than my Rolex stuff. Heavy links. Down fall is no comfort link. The case itself is better finished than the Rolex sports watches. The crown is wonderful and smooth. Accurate. I'm guessing that Rolex has the idea that they will be selling more Tudor. I'm not sure that there is a better buy in Swiss watches.

[michaelodonnell123]

Originally Posted by SS Oyster

To me, seems like people buy Tudor when they just can’t quite afford the comparable Rolex, which IMO is far more refined.

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Anybody who is willing and able to buy a Tudor can absolutely buy a Rolex. They can either buy a new or used Rolex if so desired. I own five Tudors, (three for me and two for my wife) precisely because we find that new Rolex watches look pretty bland and the old ones feel like Chinese knockoffs with that cheap stamped bracelet. Don't even get me started on the ugly green box....just awful.

Price was never an issue when I bought my watches, I wanted a certain look and style and only Tudor offered it.

[Overwound]

Originally Posted by FinWatch

Help me to understand:
You get the feeling here that spending at least 3k on a watch (Tudor) is a poor man’s choice... People certainly have too much money to spend!
It shouldn’t be all about money...


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I'm so happy to know others think this way! All of this meaningless "measuring" reminds me of the business card scene in American Pyscho.

[nick c]

Originally Posted by michaelodonnell123

Anybody who is willing and able to buy a Tudor can absolutely buy a Rolex. They can either buy a new or used Rolex if so desired. I own five Tudors, (three for me and two for my wife) precisely because we find that new Rolex watches look pretty bland and the old ones feel like Chinese knockoffs with that cheap stamped bracelet. Don't even get me started on the ugly green box....just awful.

Price was never an issue when I bought my watches, I wanted a certain look and style and only Tudor offered it.

Same here.

[LuminousMaximus]

Tudor is nice

[Art 1]

Originally Posted by LuminousMaximus

Tudor is nice

Wow, that was a change of heart.

[MercedesHand]

Originally Posted by rootbeer7

OP your comparison between Rolex and Tudor are more valid than your other brands as Tudor was created by the same company that created Rolex, to act as a starter brand for those that couldn’t or wouldn’t spend the money on a Rolex. Nowadays, it’s a matter of choice. To the non-wis, most wouldn’t have a clue about the connection and buying a watch has more to do with how it looks or the brand ambassador. I like older Rolex and find the latest models uninteresting and certainly not worth waiting years for or paying a premium for. Tudor have some interesting pieces as do other brands. Currently my daily is a Panerai 233, a model with great complications and a nod to history for less than a Rolex Submariner, which in effect is just a 3 hand diving watch.

+1

What Rootbeer said is spot on.

95% of the fickle watch mob doesnt even know Tudor and Rolex are related.

Tudor is a great watch, some issues recently most notably went with in house movements so growing pains there, QC, and sizing. There is NO reason what so ever for a 14.7mm case height. Ever! Thats borderline Panerai. The GMT date issue was egg on face, and the sizing on their more popular watch designs overpowers most regular sized wrists. Also David Beckham and Lady Gaga? Not my first choices for representation/association

The BB 58 however should be the case size they use for the designs going forward and very close cousin of choice to the Rolex Submariner(No date) In fact one of my favorite watches of all time was the 79090 Blue Submariner which I would take hands down over recent Rolex Subs. Even with ETA movement. Tudor also missed a major opportunity this past Basel. to capitalize on their 2018 releases. Could have stole the 2019 show with Sub reissue that they hinted at on the IG feed.

Some missteps but all in all good watch manufacture. Glad you like them and glad Tudor is part of the Rolex forum.

[munichblue]

Originally Posted by samson66

You post some good stuff on this forum and some great photos, but my God what a terrible insulting post this is. If your only reason for buying a Roles is to say to the world, "Hey, Look at me! I'm wearing a ROLEX!!!" then I guess you should just continue to buy the same watch over and over.

Many of us here like a little variety. There are many Swiss watches of differing price points that are terrific to own. There are plenty of reasons to look into Tudor. Tudor makes the fun watches that Rolex won't produce. Tudor gives you more bang for the buck than just about any Swiss watch out there, and you don't have to ask "is it safe..." every time you leave the house.

Posts like yours are the reason so many in the public think of Rolex wearers as douche bags that are just trying to show off their wealth.

[sillo]

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

Tudor is not supposed to be at the same level as a Rolex.

That doesn't make Tudor a bad watch.

Tudor and Rolex are two different brands.

I like some Rolex watches and dislike others.

I like some Tudor watches and dislike others.

This applies to any watch brand.

I buy the ones I like and can afford and I don't buy the ones I don't like or can't afford.

What the hell is wrong with that?

Really, saying that a Tudor is a poor man's Rolex is pretty much like saying that a Rolex is a poor man's Patek and makes about as much sense.

Well said. Some people take this debate so personally.

[53jd]

2019 Toyota Land Cruiser...Tudor
2019 Lexus LX570...Rolex

Other than aesthetics, please tell me the difference. It sure isn't price. But, I'd bet most Toyota buyers would consider a Tudor, whereas most Rolex buyers wouldn't in a side by side comparison.

In Japan, Lexus isn't even a brand. It's all Toyota, unless that changed recently. Lexus was created by Toyota with an "upscale" business model purely for American's who wanted an upscale image. Personally, I was wearing Rolex's back in late 80's and I bought in to it. Hans Wilsdorf went the other direction and created a similar reverse model. I know, over the years, Tudor may not have always been comparable, but they sure are close today.

I say this only because an earlier post compared Toyota quality to Lexus. Furthermore, since the Toyota is the same price as the image conscious Lexus, is the Tudor priced too low, or is the Rolex priced too high?

My 2 cents from a "former Rolex snob" and owner of both brands".

[Iowa 73]

I like my Tudor BB dark, and I'm also looking forward to the arrival of my Daytona. I'm not too hung up on this vs that.

[Cesium137]

Originally Posted by Gunnersaurus

Each to their own but no way would I choose a Tudor over a Rolex.

Agreed

[911NBK]

Originally Posted by 53jd

2019 Toyota Land Cruiser...Tudor
2019 Lexus LX570...Rolex

Other than aesthetics, please tell me the difference. It sure isn't price. But, I'd bet most Toyota buyers would consider a Tudor, whereas most Rolex buyers wouldn't in a side by side comparison.

In Japan, Lexus isn't even a brand. It's all Toyota, unless that changed recently. Lexus was created by Toyota with an "upscale" business model purely for American's who wanted an upscale image. Personally, I was wearing Rolex's back in late 80's and I bought in to it. Hans Wilsdorf went the other direction and created a similar reverse model. I know, over the years, Tudor may not have always been comparable, but they sure are close today.

I say this only because an earlier post compared Toyota quality to Lexus. Furthermore, since the Toyota is the same price as the image conscious Lexus, is the Tudor priced too low, or is the Rolex priced too high?

My 2 cents from a "former Rolex snob" and owner of both brands".

You make an excellent point. I've only owned Rolex and just can't bring myself to even entertain a Tudor purchase. I don't know why that is other than the fact that it rings the "cheap" bell in my head, loud.

I'm a materialistic bastard I think that's the problem. I won't even take the time to educate myself on anything Tudor.

One time though, on this forum, a memeber posted a thread about how a little square marker at 10 o'clock was just a little off on his Tudor, and that solidified it in my head that the quality is subpar. I can't shake it now.

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[FinWatch]

Originally Posted by Overwound

I'm so happy to know others think this way! All of this meaningless "measuring" reminds me of the business card scene in American Pyscho.

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[sillo]

[Bluside]

I like what I likes, and I love my Tudor GMT. I wear it more than my BLNR these days.

[FinWatch]

Originally Posted by Bluside

I like what I likes, and I love my Tudor GMT. I wear it more than my BLNR these days.

Such a great watch!!!



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[Dan Pierce]

Originally Posted by 911NBK

You make an excellent point. I've only owned Rolex and just can't bring myself to even entertain a Tudor purchase. I don't know why that is other than the fact that it rings the "cheap" bell in my head, loud.

I'm a materialistic bastard I think that's the problem. I won't even take the time to educate myself on anything Tudor.

One time though, on this forum, a memeber posted a thread about how a little square marker at 10 o'clock was just a little off on his Tudor, and that solidified it in my head that the quality is subpar. I can't shake it now.

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I think you're on to something there.
dP

[chazadams]

Originally Posted by SS Oyster

To me, seems like people buy Tudor when they just can’t quite afford the comparable Rolex, which IMO is far more refined.

I could never bring myself to buy a Tudor as I would just kick myself for not buying the superior product.

It would (for me) be like buying the Hyundai Genesis instead of getting the Mercedes the Genesis was built to imitate. To me, it’s still just a Hyundai.


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Not the way I have ever looked at purchasing a watch. Many Rolex SS models before pulling the trigger on a Tudor.......nothing to do with affordability more like likability.

[cbalster]

Originally Posted by SS Oyster

To me, seems like people buy Tudor when they just can’t quite afford the comparable Rolex, which IMO is far more refined.

I could never bring myself to buy a Tudor as I would just kick myself for not buying the superior product.

It would (for me) be like buying the Hyundai Genesis instead of getting the Mercedes the Genesis was built to imitate. To me, it’s still just a Hyundai.


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[amh]

Tudor is nice but I think they've milked the "snowflake" theme to death. The variety OP speaks of is not really there. Look at the three pics posted - it's the same watch! Different color bezel, that's all.

I do wish they'd come out with a SS Pelagos.