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Old 12 June 2019, 01:50 PM   #121
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Old 12 June 2019, 04:28 PM   #122
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This watch is absolutely perfect in the sense that dial and case shape is finally in accordance with good old Rolex shapes. The only issue is the small caseback compared to the case size that potentially can make the watch unstable. This is solved by spending some time in fine tuning the bracelet length to wrist size.

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Old 12 June 2019, 05:05 PM   #123
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If your wrist can handle it, this is the perfect Rolex.
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Old 12 June 2019, 08:02 PM   #124
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dial's too small (28mm), nothing is perfect in this world
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Old 12 June 2019, 08:13 PM   #125
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dial's too small (28mm), nothing is perfect in this world
Interesting! What’s the dial size on the subc 116610?
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Old 12 June 2019, 08:15 PM   #126
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Interesting! What’s the dial size on the subc 116610?
All the same, DSSD, Sub, SD43, YM40.
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Old 12 June 2019, 08:17 PM   #127
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All the same, DSSD, Sub, SD43, YM40.
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Old 12 June 2019, 08:56 PM   #128
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All the same, DSSD, Sub, SD43, YM40.
I believe the dial of the SD43 is roughly 1 mm larger than the other three you have listed
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Old 12 June 2019, 09:51 PM   #129
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No, I personally think the clasp is too big and rubs the wrist too much. Sorry = SD43 suck due to this in my case. Otherwise a cool watch.
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Old 12 June 2019, 10:02 PM   #130
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I believe the dial of the SD43 is roughly 1 mm larger than the other three you have listed
That's what I thought but can't see it with the naked eye. I took a ruler and couldn't measure a 1mm difference either, on the visible side of the dial at least.

So probably less than 1mm. Only a caliper on a dismounted dial will show the difference if any.

Still a small dial to me compared with the case.
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Old 12 June 2019, 10:10 PM   #131
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That's what I thought but can't see it with the naked eye. I took a ruler and couldn't measure a 1mm difference either, on the visible side of the dial at least.

So probably less than 1mm. Only a caliper on a dismounted dial will show the difference if any.

Still a small dial to me compared with the case.
There's an old post that compares all the dials. That one that is really small is the DSSD with a Sub-sized dial and a 44mm case. But they put that "ring lock" steel ring around it which disguises it some.

I think the dial increase is roughly proportional to the increase in the bezel diameter. The thickness of the bezel grew a little as well, again proportionally.
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Old 12 June 2019, 10:15 PM   #132
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It's not perfect because I can't buy it
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Old 12 June 2019, 10:25 PM   #133
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All the same, DSSD, Sub, SD43, YM40.
If the SD43 bezel is the same size as the DSSD Bezel (as has been reported here) then the DSSD dial must be a good bit smaller?
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Old 12 June 2019, 11:18 PM   #134
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There's an old post that compares all the dials. That one that is really small is the DSSD with a Sub-sized dial and a 44mm case. But they put that "ring lock" steel ring around it which disguises it some.



I think the dial increase is roughly proportional to the increase in the bezel diameter. The thickness of the bezel grew a little as well, again proportionally.
The dial increase could be proportional to the bezel increase, not sure, but definitely not to the case increase. 28mm dial to 40mm case should translate into 30mm dial to 43mm case or 31mm to 44mm case.



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If the SD43 bezel is the same size as the DSSD Bezel (as has been reported here) then the DSSD dial must be a good bit smaller?
Because of the ring lock? Yes, possibly. But the rehaut in the SD43 is not perpendicular to the dial, it's tilted outwards towards the bezel, so that angle could make up for the ring lock gap. I think the dial difference is less than 1mm.

In any case, not the end of the world. I noticed it the day I tried it on at the AD (when you could do that...) and it didn't stop me from taking it home :-).

So it's close to perfect, but I find the proportions of my PO2500C 45.5 bang on perfect, with the SD43 close second.
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Old 12 June 2019, 11:32 PM   #135
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The reason for that is yo have more surface for the glass to sit. You can clearly see it if you tilt the watch at an angle. I guess this is done in orser to mantain the glass not so thick and still guarantee the depth rating

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Old 13 June 2019, 01:03 AM   #136
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Perfect? No, not imho. It's a stunning stainless steel Rolex sports model which I have considered buying, but I don't think that it's perfect

It has a cyclops, so to me - it just looks/seems like a supersized Sub

Though I love everything else about the watch - the better case shape, and especially the line of red text, I can't call it perfect

The 116600 fills that "perfect" niche' for me

Each to their own, YMMV etc
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Old 21 July 2019, 01:26 PM   #137
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Its perfect if you are over 6ft tall and over 200lbs.
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Old 21 July 2019, 01:41 PM   #138
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Nope, too big.
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Old 21 July 2019, 02:17 PM   #139
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i’m 5’8”, 175 pounds, with a 7-inch wrist unless it’s nine trillion degrees out (currently NC weather is abhorrent).

i love my SD43. it’s been on my wrist a lot in the year since i acquired it, and i’ve garnered some lovely comments on it, especially from other collectors.

I LOVE the dial; i love the tapered lugs; i life the bracelet and glidelock (which, once i had fiddled with it to get it precisely where i wanted it, fits beautifully). i love that it’s a big submariner. i love that it’s NOT a submariner. i am a fan of the cyclops even in this case (but i will admit that i hanker quietly for a late SD4K.)

it is heavy. it is a chunk of steel, that i find doesn’t fit under even tailored french cuffs designed to accommodate timepieces. it’s surprisingly shiny and catches light (at least the bezel and polished case do).

so no. it isn’t perfect, but it’s bloody effing close.
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Old 21 July 2019, 02:53 PM   #140
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i’m 5’8”, 175 pounds, with a 7-inch wrist unless it’s nine trillion degrees out (currently NC weather is abhorrent).

i love my SD43. it’s been on my wrist a lot in the year since i acquired it, and i’ve garnered some lovely comments on it, especially from other collectors.

I LOVE the dial; i love the tapered lugs; i life the bracelet and glidelock (which, once i had fiddled with it to get it precisely where i wanted it, fits beautifully). i love that it’s a big submariner. i love that it’s NOT a submariner. i am a fan of the cyclops even in this case (but i will admit that i hanker quietly for a late SD4K.)

it is heavy. it is a chunk of steel, that i find doesn’t fit under even tailored french cuffs designed to accommodate timepieces. it’s surprisingly shiny and catches light (at least the bezel and polished case do).

so no. it isn’t perfect, but it’s bloody effing close.


Please don’t buy a SD4K. It will ruin the SD43 for you (only slightly kidding) SD43 was one of my favorites and now I’m not sure it is because I bought SD4K this week. I also have 7” wrist and the SD4K just feels so right. SD43 just feels so much bigger now. Idk if I can handle it. SD43 is definitely prettier but that’s about it.
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Old 21 July 2019, 03:42 PM   #141
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Yes it's perfect and it's not a Sub on steroids, far from it.

Seeing is believing with this model. Yes it's large but its proportions make up for it.

I love Its vintage echoes. In particular i love the following: -

It's a commemorative watch (50th anniversary) - true anniversary would be a 2017 mark I dial
Red text
Matte black dial
New 22mm wider bracelet for better balance and proportions
Slightly raised crystal
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Beautiful slim, tapered lugs

This is my Mon - Fri 'beater' - on weekends i wear the ss sky-dweller
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Old 21 July 2019, 04:02 PM   #142
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Please don’t buy a SD4K. It will ruin the SD43 for you (only slightly kidding) SD43 was one of my favorites and now I’m not sure it is because I bought SD4K this week. I also have 7” wrist and the SD4K just feels so right. SD43 just feels so much bigger now. Idk if I can handle it. SD43 is definitely prettier but that’s about it.


noted!!!

i used to work with a bloke who had a five-digit Seadweller. it was brilliant.

even if i were to acquire an SD4K it will be some time before i get to that part of my wish list.

but you offer serious food for thought.
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Old 21 July 2019, 06:02 PM   #143
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Old 21 July 2019, 06:12 PM   #144
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"Perfect" for what? Certainly not for what most owners will actually use the piece.
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Old 21 July 2019, 07:15 PM   #145
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Not for my small wrists, but in terms of the watch itself quite possibly.
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Old 21 July 2019, 07:20 PM   #146
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SD43 lover here. I think the bezel is 2 mm thicker and the dial is 1 mm bigger then a SubC. I love the bracelet which is 22 mm, the helium escape and the single red line.
I sold the 116610LN because it could not compete with the 126600.
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Old 21 July 2019, 10:30 PM   #147
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I’m starting to think so. The tapered lugs are so much better. The full minute markers ad to symmetry. That single line of red text.

I’m really loving this one.

Every mom thinks their child is the best. You should feel fortunate that you're happy with your purchase and actually enjoy your watch.
For me it isn't perfect, it's nice but not enough to drop money on it. I actually prefer the Submariner no date over it.
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Old 21 July 2019, 10:33 PM   #148
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Too big; ceramic insert; cyclop; it’s definitely not perfect.
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Old 22 July 2019, 12:02 AM   #149
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That’s why I sold my Sub date and acquired the MK1 dial SD43
It’s to me the perfect size for me 7.5 flat wrist sits perfectly . Also under the radar looks like a Sub from far away to people not in the know . The only 40mm is my Platty
I understand with smaller wrist it might not wear well but look what people were saying when the DSSD came out then the D Blue .

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Old 22 July 2019, 12:07 AM   #150
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i’m 5’8”, 175 pounds, with a 7-inch wrist unless it’s nine trillion degrees out (currently NC weather is abhorrent).

i love my SD43. it’s been on my wrist a lot in the year since i acquired it, and i’ve garnered some lovely comments on it, especially from other collectors.

I LOVE the dial; i love the tapered lugs; i life the bracelet and glidelock (which, once i had fiddled with it to get it precisely where i wanted it, fits beautifully). i love that it’s a big submariner. i love that it’s NOT a submariner. i am a fan of the cyclops even in this case (but i will admit that i hanker quietly for a late SD4K.)

it is heavy. it is a chunk of steel, that i find doesn’t fit under even tailored french cuffs designed to accommodate timepieces. it’s surprisingly shiny and catches light (at least the bezel and polished case do).

so no. it isn’t perfect, but it’s bloody effing close.





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