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8 August 2020, 06:23 PM | #121 |
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In life, there are things to worry about. Watches are not on that list.
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8 August 2020, 08:04 PM | #122 |
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We are watch hobbyists just like filmgoers are movie fans, yet the things we like are actually businesses which employ staff and have to make profits, so it is no wonder that ADs try to make as much as they can by selling to greys, esp if Rolex are passive, and endless safe movie sequels get made by producers over original ideas, esp if the studio head is passive. It's tough to swallow for fans that the business aspect comes first for both industries, but hey that's showbusiness.
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8 August 2020, 08:10 PM | #123 |
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8 August 2020, 08:32 PM | #124 |
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Rolex is playing a dangerous game, they limited the professional pieces which is an outstanding marketing strategy, but if they got too far, eventually ppl will just turn their heads away, yes I own an Explorer and I enjoy it a lot , I am also waiting for a GMT in the AD’s fantasy wait list. So many ppl wants a Rolex professional SS watch but seriously the finishing and the quality of the piece is not really up there (it’s good and reliable for sure, but not great)
So if you’re a true fan of watches, plenty options out there that does not require any deposit or ‘wait list’ I really don’t care if I got the GMT in the end or not, and pay premium for a mass production watch is just stupid (sorry if I offended anyone) |
8 August 2020, 08:57 PM | #125 |
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Rolex is not the only brand for watch hobbyists/enthusiasts. Saying you are going to lose interest in watches because you can't get a BLRO is a way too exaggerated response (in my opinion.)
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8 August 2020, 09:09 PM | #126 |
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They really took advantage of you. Rolex deposit is an easy way to get a free loan, or recognize revenue to inflate the books. Anyway, several lessons learnt:
Waiting lists don’t exist Down payment against nothing is just giving money away Rolex has a new distribution channel - grey The experience will kill the brand ever time Moved to Panerai and never looked back. Still have 5 Rolex I am ashamed to even wear.
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8 August 2020, 09:15 PM | #127 | |
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Did you see the new Panerai 1313? I think that watch is beautiful. I too am stepping back from Rolex. Just bought a big Pilot and have a vacheron overseas on order. Probably will add the Pam 1313 at some point. Just no interest anymore in Rolex even if they release a red text sub with slimmer lugs on sept 1st. Just too much nonsense. |
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8 August 2020, 09:27 PM | #128 |
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I wonder how many AD's drop Rolex to concentrate on other brands. They dedicate a lot of floor space to Rolex but must spend a lot of time disappointing potential customers by telling them the watch they desire from the catalogue they simply can not get.
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8 August 2020, 10:34 PM | #129 |
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8 August 2020, 10:45 PM | #130 | |
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Well the watch sure as heck is worth it . The jubilee is extremely comfortable , the build quality is very good and overall just a great piece. My wife loves it since it actually is for her . In that pic I had tried it on but haven’t worn it once since ....happy wife happy life. BUT I will say that the treatment received at that AD was noting less than pathetic. Fully aware folks have to shell out a lot , build relationships, bake cookies , bring lattes but there is NO way I would pay grey market prices for a watch , never , ever....so my only choice was to be patient and hope someone would come through and it happened . There are still good people in this world ... so there is hope for all of us non whales and non AD preferred clients . With its friends |
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8 August 2020, 10:50 PM | #131 |
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Yeah it was a frustrating moment and have not sold any watches since then I was just pissed off. First world problem I get it but I never thought in my wildest dreams that a reputable store would do that ...business is business money is money blah blah but again you want to piss off ur customer so they never buy a thing from you then mission accomplished . Since that story I added the BLRO and a Milgauss NOT from them and added a Seamaster 300M NOT from them so yeah they won big time |
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8 August 2020, 10:55 PM | #133 |
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Yep, it sucks...but such is the state of things right now.
However, we Rolex owners are sometimes our own worst enemies. We tend to want things when we want them, and then turn around and expect top dollar when we sell. Sadly, it doesn't go both ways. |
8 August 2020, 10:58 PM | #134 |
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8 August 2020, 11:02 PM | #135 |
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Work with all and any AD, someone will come through. I picked up my pieces through 2 AD’s worked with 3.
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8 August 2020, 11:13 PM | #136 |
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I could not disagree more. Rolex was freely available for years and had a steady following through out the years. The quality and styling was unmistakable. They depreciated like any personal goods purchase but folks back then bought them to wear and most had only one watch which they wore their entire life with pleasure.
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9 August 2020, 12:30 AM | #137 |
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Frustrated to no end
Years ago you could get anything you wanted, even a Daytona after a short wait. When I got into the hobby it was a fun experience to try on watches at the AD and eventually buy one at a discount. Things have changed a lot in the last years. Wanting and getting the model you want has become frustrating. Yes, many seem to get the watches they want but many also don’t. The best way to still enjoy the Rolex experience is to purchase what they have and not get into the list thing... there are plenty of awesome models still available.
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9 August 2020, 01:18 AM | #139 |
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Truth here and the reason for why we all go through what we go through with this brand.
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9 August 2020, 01:20 AM | #140 |
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I think the important thing to remember is something the OP himself mentioned; it’s not a kidney.
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9 August 2020, 01:27 AM | #141 | |
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9 August 2020, 01:33 AM | #142 |
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Personally, I just consider the "market price" as the one charged by resellers. If I believe a watch that I want is worth that amount (obviously subjective), fine. If not, I move on.
I don't expect an AD to sell something to me below market price, unless I make it worthwhile to them by purchasing high margin items that are not in short supply. Life is too short to wait around for something that may never materialize, let alone put a deposit down with a dealer that may go out of business. |
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If I were a Rolex dealer, I'd do the same thing that many of them do. I'd sell the watch for what I could get for it. That would mean gray dealers. Why should I give away money by selling it for less than current market value. That's why DavidSW has these watches today. BNABOD, if you don't want to throw away your money, don't buy Rolex. I would argue that anything other than an Oyster Perpetual is essentially throwing away money since you can get a more or less equivalent watch for much less. Tudor comes to mind, as well as others. For me personally, my Oyster Perpetual watches both cost me around $5000 each. I did't throw away my money since I got what I desired and purchased them at market value. I don't think there an alternative, CNC machined, three hand, no caseback engraving, high quality bracelet, solid watch that is 34 to 36mm with a long history. |
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9 August 2020, 02:17 AM | #145 |
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Nice collection and cool your wife is wearing that beautiful BLRO
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9 August 2020, 02:34 AM | #146 | |
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Not sure if he got anywhere, but I've had multiple dealers in different states tell this same story. The drama is actually turning into one of my favorite parts. I'm not chasing hot models, so this is now my gossip column. |
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9 August 2020, 02:44 AM | #147 |
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damn that is a serious bummer. i'm glad that i am not even interested in most of the hot s/s rolex models. otherwise i'd be feeling just like you.
but i am definitely one to give the finger to anyone/thing that isn't interested in me or my money. i'd simply start loving another brand. vc, iwc, and omega are very worthy substitutes and by no means a step down. |
9 August 2020, 02:47 AM | #148 |
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nevermind, i guess you found one. and are pretty dedicated to rolex.
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9 August 2020, 02:52 AM | #149 |
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I can see where you are frustrated but I personally would never put a deposit down on any watch unless I had something in writing. I’m not someone who loans an established business 5k plus (or whatever amount) and not even make any extra money in return if the deal is never completed.
I understand where you say “your throwing money out the door” by spending Grey Market price but retail obviously is not market price. I have paid over retail for several pieces ( BLRO, BLNR, Daytona c) and I have honestly always made money even after wearing it for several months. Then again I generally flip stainless steel watches bc I get bored by them quickly. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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The OP could have put that $5000 in Amazon stock back then and made some money to cover the grey market premium by now.
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