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Old 8 August 2019, 01:51 AM   #121
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I feel the OP will once again have a Returns Remorse as he actually kicked a very good fair deal... Good luck having your next Pepsi if ever... All I learnt from this thread is I buy my watches with my own money and not joint finances.
Yeah I agree. The real remorse is in the return.
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Old 8 August 2019, 01:51 AM   #122
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I feel the OP will once again have a Returns Remorse as he actually kicked a very good fair deal... Good luck having your next Pepsi if ever... All I learnt from this thread is I buy my watches with my own money and not joint finances.
“Very good fair deal”? Wow.
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Old 8 August 2019, 01:56 AM   #123
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I think your Pepsi will hold value. You obviously made the trade on instinct/love for watch in the first place. Just enjoy it at this point, and buy something nice for the wife.
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Old 8 August 2019, 02:03 AM   #124
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You seem to have some leverage here if indeed the AD is not honoring the terms of its agreement with Rolex. Perhaps you and the AD can come up with a creative solution that allows you to stay happily married.:)

I think this is a great example of why these prices are not sustainable. Those that got in early feel good about the watch and it’s value, those coming in late not so much.
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Old 8 August 2019, 02:04 AM   #125
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I think when you talk to the AD this morning you should thank him for working with you and selling you a very hot watch that you love. This is only going to make a situation where you are feeling, an I emphasis "feeling", some remorse, worse. The remorse is over the money, not the watch. You went home and unloaded on the wife and she can not process the deal or the watch so now you have her on you. You are an adult who knowingly made a deal for a watch, great watch also, live with it. The numbers are not crazy for your trade and the watch you got. Wear it and enjoy it. Disregard the advice of going to Rolex or other action against the AD. This is the Rolex world we live in. If you handle this well with the AD you may actually get on a list for another watch you want and get it delivered. You are now a paying customer not just a tire kicker. Stop with the silliness, check your emotions and move on. And I almost forgot, wear your watch as it is great. Just my thoughts.
Very well put. Agreed!!
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Old 8 August 2019, 02:04 AM   #126
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Not cool to renege on a deal regardless of the circumstances.
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Old 8 August 2019, 02:04 AM   #127
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OP, I have zero sympathy for your plight.

Looks like you squirmed out of your self imposed problem.

I hope there is a forum to sooth you after the next non Rolex related pickle you put yourself in.
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Old 8 August 2019, 02:08 AM   #128
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Bingo. This may not be illegal, but it is certainly unethical in my mind, and pretty much dirty pool antics. Either be a secondary market grey, or be an AD, but don't try to be both imho.
I guess I missed that part. This surprises me. I've seen ADs sell pre-owned pieces (usually on consignment), but this detail means the AD did not value his watch at 10k. Rather they valued it at 3k+ considering he gave them 6k in cash. I was under the impression that an AD selling Rolex watches above MSRP was forbidden.
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Old 8 August 2019, 02:08 AM   #129
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It’s low for a private sale but not if sold to a dealer
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Old 8 August 2019, 02:12 AM   #130
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Yea man lame post OP. You made a deal, stick to it, i can see if there was a lack of transparency on the dealers end, or something was not as described but you allowing your wife to make decisions for you shouldn't reflect on someone else's business.

The dealer probably knows you will whine online about it and possibly tarnish his rep, and also knows he can now sell it elsewhere "used" for a premium, so he is taking it back. Smart business on his part.

If he called you today and said "hey man, I have someone else willing to pay me 2k more than what you paid yesterday, you need to bring the watch back because my boss told me to" would you be bringing it back? Of course not.

I get the customer service end for the dealer has to come into play at some point, because in the end with my business (which is thankfully not watches nor is it emotional items) I want the client to be 100% satisfied with what they purchased, but with something like this, if I were you and "changed my mind" I would be selling it on my own, I wouldn't parachute my insecurities or uncertainties etc. into someone elses business.

Just my .02 since you asked.
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Old 8 August 2019, 02:15 AM   #131
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Is going to be a no for me man.


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Old 8 August 2019, 02:17 AM   #132
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Old 8 August 2019, 02:17 AM   #133
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Seems a bit shan the AD selling over and above MSRP. Alls well that ends well i suppose.

Give the wife a bunch of fives, sorry i meant flowers, only joking before somebody gets offended.

Not worth the household stress at all when the long haired OC isn't happy. Plus grief of the wife your never going to enjoy the watch. Pulls a face like a bull dog licking wee from a stinging nettle (Poison Ivy) every time you glance at the watch and she catches you.
ADs aren’t allowed to sell new above MSRP period. Rolex would not be happy about that. Report him to Rolex USA if what you say is accurate
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Old 8 August 2019, 02:20 AM   #134
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I am guessing I just got lucky on my fully linked RG SD w Rhodium dial. I paid 36K for a new unitled warranty card at a retail brick and mortar Grey. I went into the shop just to look and when he said 36K, I didnt think twice. Box'er up pal.

QUOTE=peterpl;9877591]This is the risk of buying premium.

Paying an extra $6.8k is going to take away the enjoyment because you know you overpaid. Thats almost a DJ41 or a 5 digit sub you could have added to your collection instead of giving it away to the gray dealers.

This is why I never ever pay over retail for any watch. Because I know it will just bug me every time knowing I paid more than I should have. Thats why I've been holding off buying a precious metal SkyD with Rhodium dial. I cant fathom paying more than $40k for that watch.

I dont see you enjoying the watch + your wife is gonna bust your balls alot so if the gray dealer will take it back without you losing more money then just do it and take it as a lesson learnt.[/QUOTE]
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Old 8 August 2019, 02:28 AM   #135
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I'll never pay over retail for anything.
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Old 8 August 2019, 02:29 AM   #136
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Old 8 August 2019, 02:33 AM   #137
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I know its late in this thread and you have already decided to return the watch, but if you'd decided to keep it I think you could have gotten through the wife's disapproval. All you had to do was walk her into her closet and I'll guarantee you that that its full of stuff you had no idea you bought. Math would be your friend in this particular situation......
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Old 8 August 2019, 02:36 AM   #138
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Sounds like you had no issues with the transaction while at the AD, and things went south when you got home.
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Old 8 August 2019, 02:39 AM   #139
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I know its late in this thread and you have already decided to return the watch, but if you'd decided to keep it I think you could have gotten through the wife's disapproval. All you had to do was walk her into her closet and I'll guarantee you that that its full of stuff you had no idea you bought. Math would be your friend in this particular situation......
I’m guessing you are not married (or newlywed)? Win that battle, lose the war.
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Old 8 August 2019, 02:45 AM   #140
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Lesson number 1. Never tell your wife how much the true cost is. Just refer to the retail value.

I wouldn't get too fussy about not receiving the receipt (although the method of acquiring is un-AD-like). Based on what I can see your main objection is your wife being pissed off... which translates to you getting fixated on an item like a receipt... less so the fact that you paid above retail for a watch in your name.

Overall, of course, keep you partner happy. But ironically enough it might not make you happy. I do suggest you think it over or consultant your partner next time in advance. And based on reading other comments, the "issue" might have been solved, but I have to say you are now creating excuses for this buyer's remorse i.e. never pay above retail, lesson learned regarding deals like this... the true reason: your wife spooked you too much. Which is fine, just admit it ;).
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Old 8 August 2019, 02:45 AM   #141
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Glad to hear everything worked out. Thanks for sharing your experience.
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Old 8 August 2019, 02:50 AM   #142
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Dealer took the stickers off the watch in the store before I left and he had a machine which printed my name on the warranty card so now it would technically be considered a used watch . Any suggestions of how to return this ?
Don’t know about your particular state laws but some states allow for a grace period (normally 3-5 days) in which you can return merchandise to a vendor. Personally, I would never have considered that deal. Let’s say that the appraisal sheet they give you appraises the watch at near retail? Not only have you lost a couple thousand on the transaction but also your two-tone GMT.
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Old 8 August 2019, 02:56 AM   #143
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Old 8 August 2019, 02:57 AM   #144
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I feel the OP will once again have a Returns Remorse as he actually kicked a very good fair deal... Good luck having your next Pepsi if ever... All I learnt from this thread is I buy my watches with my own money and not joint finances.
Been married for 36 years, together 42 and what I have learned is that “my money” and “your money” has never existed for us. It’s been “our money”.
I attribute a great part of my happiness in marriage to that concept.
OP is a smart man listening to an upset wife, if he wants to live a happy life.
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Old 8 August 2019, 03:04 AM   #145
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I think it is admirable of OP to start this thread and discourage everybody from making a deal with him
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Old 8 August 2019, 03:07 AM   #146
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Problem solved, dealer texted me to just bring the watch back.
Glad that it worked out for you. Would never want to be in this situation myself.
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Old 8 August 2019, 03:12 AM   #147
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I think it is embarrassing to return it. A man does not go back on his word where I come from, with all due respect.
We all subscribe to different sets of values. “Where I come from, honesty is the best practice.”
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Old 8 August 2019, 03:13 AM   #148
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OH I am very married

Far from a newley wed. Married 10 years on wife number 2. I got it right the second time and found one who understands my obsessions, quirks, habits and hangups.......of which there are plenty. Even with that I know full well I sponsor a significant amount of offline purchases and her closet is full of them......I was simply suggesting that he could have weathered the storm. I fully understand the battle versus war anology but also know that the more battles you win, raises the chances of winning the war. My first wife taught me that. Just gotta have a little scene control

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I’m guessing you are not married (or newlywed)? Win that battle, lose the war.
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Old 8 August 2019, 03:15 AM   #149
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I think it is admirable of OP to start this thread and discourage everybody from making a deal with him



Can’t imagine the amount of old tires sitting around in his front yard
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Old 8 August 2019, 03:30 AM   #150
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Been married for 36 years, together 42 and what I have learned is that “my money” and “your money” has never existed for us. It’s been “our money”.
I attribute a great part of my happiness in marriage to that concept.
OP is a smart man listening to an upset wife, if he wants to live a happy life.
A very true and i feel a correct statement. Had friends that did the your money, my money, thing. All divorced now.

We believe in what ever is mine is yours and what ever is hers is hers. Only kidding.

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