Is the Batman losing popularity? Why does it seem like that?

[BroncoOne]

For all those claiming that there is a recession or that one is imminent and people will be throwing Batman and Pepsi and Daytone watches out the window before they jump, are you aware that the US stock lmarket broke yet another record yesterday? Yesterday.

Edited

If you don't like the new Batman, don't buy one. Oh wait, you still can't buy one for the new, higher MSRP a anyway. When you see the, in AD cases, then that's the evidence. When you get a discount, that's the evidence.

The grey market pricing may have eased, but the watchers are still selling at a premium.

Question: why do people call the GMT a "sports" watch? What sport is it for? Overseas conference calls? LOL Air transportation? LOL

[peterpl]

Originally Posted by WatchLurv

Just go to Hong Kong and you can get it for -10% off from DavidSW's price. You buy enough watches and you've saved yourself the planeticket.

It seems like people only rely on the sales side of this forum. I've never seen DavidSW represented at the watchfairs in Hong Kong. That's where you find the top of the industry. Even Watchtrading Co is represented there as they do cross-border business. People need to open up on their views of how and who to buy from when it comes to grey dealers.

pretty much. Thats why you never use the TS on here as benchmark. They are not present in the biggest watch fairs around the world.

The news from the big dealers is that the current watch market is soft. Big decrease in demand from only 6-12 months ago and the concensus is that its going to keep dropping in the gray market.

No-one here is saying the BLNR/BLRO or whatever is going to sell under MSRP anytime soon but those ridiculous crazy markups are long gone and ppl are just not jumping on them at listed prices from the grays on here.

There is a massive gray market world out there outside of TRF.

[Robtayham]

Originally Posted by BroncoOne

People made tons of money doing nothing.

Not quite how it works. But, that opinion does support the ‘you didn’t build it’ mantra of the left.

Gone are the days of Milton Friedman, Adam Smith, Ayn Rand, Alexis de Tocqueville, and the like.

Ibtl

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

[904VT]

Originally Posted by HarryFlashman

I wonder if the Execs at Pan Am were upset that the watch was branded “Pepsi” after they were the ones who asked for it! All the marketing they lost on to Pepsi!

I don’t get why so many folks here get triggered by the use of “girl” in a colloquial name for a watch.

Batman is just as out of place. Not sure why we all must force comic book names on Rolex watches

To answer the OP I hear Ben Affleck didn’t do too well with the film

[Dlong]

Originally Posted by watchmework

I’ve purchased a couple pieces from David. The reason I chose to go back to him time and time again is because I know what I’m getting with him. There isn’t any funny business and I’m getting a first class service when we do business. While he or many of the trusted sellers on here have pieces for sale above msrp, he’s also very fair when trading in watches. You get what you pay for but with David he’s been in this business for years...you can’t get that same type of track record with a private seller. When you’re paying over 10k on a watch is the risk/reward really worth $1000-1500 to you. To me, the answer is no way.

Thank you for your response. I just wanted to know if his inflated prices are negotiable. I mean if he’s asking 17k for the Pepsi can it be attained for say 15k? Knowing that he wants 15k all along.

[watchmework]

Originally Posted by Dlong

Thank you for your response. I just wanted to know if his inflated prices are negotiable. I mean if he’s asking 17k for the Pepsi can it be attained for say 15k? Knowing that he wants 15k all along.

It doesn't hurt to contact David and see what he can do, though I'd be surprised if he built that much margin into the website price.

[Dlong]

Originally Posted by watchmework

It doesn't hurt to contact David and see what he can do, though I'd be surprised if he built that much margin into the website price.

Just wondering. I have no intention of paying anything over MSRP. I like the Pepsi, just not willing to get caught up in the hype. Been there done that with other things. Learned my lesson. In the end, it’s just a watch. I’ve been very enamored with the Zenith El Primero, and that can be had for 20% off MSRP. I don’t care about future value.

[garyk]

Originally Posted by Dlong

Just wondering. I have no intention of paying anything over MSRP. I like the Pepsi, just not willing to get caught up in the hype. Been there done that with other things. Learned my lesson. In the end, it’s just a watch. I’ve been very enamored with the Zenith El Primero, and that can be had for 20% off MSRP. I don’t care about future value.

Agreed. MSRP always, patience for things. Time marches on no pun intended

[Rrpdc]

Hmm. Ridiculous Grey prices might be falling but good luck finding blnr at any ad for retail. They are def still popular. Any ss is popular now.

[Dlong]

Seems like lots of people have been lucky. And that is only the minute fraction of people that post about new watches online. What about the thousands that don’t post “incoming “.

[RTG]

BLRO will win the collectibility war. I doubt the number of BLNR fans has decreased, but BLRO will remain more desirable.

Personally I would rather wear black/blue than red/blue. My wife only wears her old BLNR anymore. She had no desire to switch to our BLRO.

[BigBlue1]

It must be, I don’t even know what that is referring to anymore.

[MSchu]

its a darn color way... how trivial can people be.
give me black black black any day

[LigerBelair]

Originally Posted by Nikrnic

Not to beat a dead horse on nicknames again but the batgiirl monicker didnt start here on TRF but was sure picked up quickly. Its name also stuck from the start worldwide and at this point were just going have to live with it doesn't bother me either way yet I do find myself using it and others for a quicker differentiation than spelling out model numbers.

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Agreed.

[Kiddodoc]

The BLNR has come down quicker in price than the BLRO. Most seem to love the Pepsi look more than the black and blue. I have had the BLNR on oyster, which I did like a lot but when the BLNR on jubilee came out, I was intrigued but then my AD called me on the BLRO and I became hooked on the jubilee. Now many on here prefer the oyster but in my collection, it is full of oyster bands and I really prefer the GMT on a jubilee. I traded my oyster BLNR for the BLNR on jubilee and have been wearing it the most. It goes with almost everything and the jubilee is so comfortable.

[The Argonaut]

Originally Posted by dwjez14

I just don’t see anything softening or changing until the watches show up at AD and you can buy without an issue.

This, or close to this--when one can get one at an AD with a six month wait maximum. I believe this to be a few years away. Rolex don't want that to happen. This bubble is serving them well, but they know it will end.

[The Argonaut]

Originally Posted by watchmework

It doesn't hurt to contact David and see what he can do, though I'd be surprised if he built that much margin into the website price.

Except on his Nautilus, Aquanauts, and Daytona's (these seemed to have softened a little--but only a little.). Healthy margins still.

[watchmework]

Originally Posted by The Argonaut

Except on his Nautilus, Aquanauts, and Daytona's (these seemed to have softened a little--but only a little.). Healthy margins still.

We don’t know what prices the trusted sellers get these watches for, but I can guarantee you they aren’t msrp...I’m sure there is a fair amount of markup but not what most people think off the cuff.

[904VT]

Originally Posted by BroncoOne

For all those claiming that there is a recession or that one is imminent and people will be throwing Batman and Pepsi and Daytone watches out the window before they jump, are you aware that the US stock lmarket broke yet another record yesterday? Yesterday.

Edited

If you don't like the new Batman, don't buy one. Oh wait, you still can't buy one for the new, higher MSRP a anyway. When you see the, in AD cases, then that's the evidence. When you get a discount, that's the evidence.

The grey market pricing may have eased, but the watchers are still selling at a premium.

Question: why do people call the GMT a "sports" watch? What sport is it for? Overseas conference calls? LOL Air transportation? LOL

Yes, the longest bull run in recorded history lasting over 10 years and 300%+ TR. I have some Enron I’d like to sell you circa late 90’s prices. It can only go up great deal I tell you.

[WatchLurv]

Originally Posted by peterpl

pretty much. Thats why you never use the TS on here as benchmark. They are not present in the biggest watch fairs around the world.

The news from the big dealers is that the current watch market is soft. Big decrease in demand from only 6-12 months ago and the concensus is that its going to keep dropping in the gray market.

No-one here is saying the BLNR/BLRO or whatever is going to sell under MSRP anytime soon but those ridiculous crazy markups are long gone and ppl are just not jumping on them at listed prices from the grays on here.

There is a massive gray market world out there outside of TRF.

The Chinese stopped coming to Hong Kong to fry the market (as they call it). At least the normal people can now get their watches.

I love to read people's Christmas theory or Nasdaq dropped 5 points...

Originally Posted by watchmework

We don’t know what prices the trusted sellers get these watches for, but I can guarantee you they aren’t msrp...I’m sure there is a fair amount of markup but not what most people think off the cuff.

Greys work on a 5-10% margin.

[martinjames192]

You can almost see it at every turn, so why give value to a mass produced product?

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[joli160]

Originally Posted by WatchLurv

At least the normal people can now get their watches.

Do you realise what you are actually saying

[BroncoOne]

Originally Posted by Robtayham

Not quite how it works. But, that opinion does support the ‘you didn’t build it’ mantra of the left.

Gone are the days of Milton Friedman, Adam Smith, Ayn Rand, Alexis de Tocqueville, and the like.

Ibtl

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

I built and own my own businesses. I was deliberately ignoring the risk factor that the "you didn't build it" bobble heads spout.

My point was that if you just held from last year to this time, and didn't do anything on buying, selling, hedging etc, you scored by just sitting on your decent holdings.

NASDAQ over 9000 for the first time, right now.

If the Dems lose the House and Trump wins again, the economy will be flush with even more liquidity (ignoring the bank repo/Fed action for now). Luxury goods like watches will be in even more demand and demand drives price.

BTW- a film is being made about the allegedly corrupt Fall River, Massachisetts mayor shaking down businesses and recreational cannabis store applicants. One of the most widely reported bribes was a MT Batman 2.0. Knowing Rolex and its marketing prowess, that watch gets on screen in the film. I see that supporting demand and thus price.

Local media and some national had some articles like "What is a Rolex Batman," "Why is a watch named after Batman." Etc

[WatchLurv]

Originally Posted by joli160

Do you realise what you are actually saying

The amount of people coming out of the woodworks to buy a 13800 Batgirl vs one that was priced at 16600 USD pre-protest in Hong Kong is astounding. It should perhaps be corrected to "normal" people.

[franktehtank]

I think it's hilarious that people get offended by the "Batgirl" nickname. Are people honestly that insecure?

[franktehtank]

Originally Posted by BroncoOne

Question: why do people call the GMT a "sports" watch? What sport is it for? Overseas conference calls? LOL Air transportation? LOL

[jaySL350]

I believe WF have knocked off a tad over £2k on the new gmt blnr,,,,still way over priced and only available to Jan1
they have showed there hand now but I expect it will go back up after Jan 1 ??????

[AK797]

Originally Posted by franktehtank

I think it's hilarious that people get offended by the "Batgirl" nickname. Are people honestly that insecure?

Surely you've noticed that social media is turning into just one massive snowflake of mental illness, so yeah people who are trying to show off are a little bit sensitive to their prized possession being ridiculed, kind of defeats the purpose.

[exador]

Originally Posted by franktehtank

I think it's hilarious that people get offended by the "Batgirl" nickname. Are people honestly that insecure?

Batgirl rocks

[Manu74]

Originally Posted by franktehtank

I think it's hilarious that people get offended by the "Batgirl" nickname. Are people honestly that insecure?

This!

Rootbeer, Hulk, Bluesy, Smurf and BatMAN are all ok, but BatGIRL isn’t?