Okay, so you just paid mega-bucks for a Chronograph!! What next??

[HYDROMAROC]

Originally Posted by Bisquitlips

Already have mine.

Here's mine! Where's yours?

By the way, this is a sweet watch! I bought it as a world timer and it does have some really great functions. I also love the rose gold. Nice dress watch.

So what happens when it's spring or fall..?? Only see summer and winter...

[Andad]

Originally Posted by Tombstone

JJ,
You are spot on. Sad to say any Rolex for exact time keeping is always going to fall short of the cheapest Casio at Wal Mart for $9.99. That said we are talking two different schools of watches. I have a dozen G-Shock Casio watches for my running and other timing reasons. Most buy the Daytonas for status in my view.

Status for the select few who even know what a Daytona is. 75% of the population has no clue and could care less. This same 75% might say one is foolish for paying $9,000 plus for a watch. I like the Daytona but would never buy one. I have no need for one.

Hi Richard,

So who buys a Rolex because they 'need' one of it's features? I think there would be much less expensive ways of satisfying that 'need'.
You have no 'need 'for a Daytona and it's a status thing in your opinion.
So why do you have an SD a Sub and a YM?

[AstroBoy]

Well....It's a complication of all things mechanical that makes it prestige! ?

[Jocke]

JJ don't blame us for you don't find the pushers in your hair forrest.



Jocke

[Andad]

We always seem to end up in a watch comparison contest when no two people are alike.

I time my eggs with my Daytona but always check it's accuracy with my Speedy. Can't be too carefull these days.

Anyway the Daytona is best ....no, the Omega.....

I can't make my mind up either.

Damn it......the Speedy's running fast AGAIN.

[Dom]

Dear friends - I am still brand new to this forum, but let me remind you that discussions around the accuracy of mechanical watches including complications brought the Swiss watch making industry close to extinction (I dare say as a Swiss). We all know that the digital age has started a while ago. With mechanical watches however, we are talking craftsmanship, passion COMBINED WITH precision.

As a kid I had a bunch of Casio watches that did all sorts of cool stuff. But none of them had the soul of a mechanical watch. Different people will buy a particular watch for different reasons. I time my steak or noodles with the lovely Daytona of mine - whilst realizing that a kitchen timer might have been the cheaper option.

Thanks to emotions (and a bunch of watch nuts out there), an industry that I adore and am proud of has kept the art of watch making alive to be passed on for generations to come.

[springer]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Sorry, guys......please don't flame me, but here's a very simple question:

In this day and age of high speed electronic laser-edged technology where races and finishes are timed to as low as 1/1000th of a second, what good is a mechanical chronograph movement?

It's pretty bloody useless to time any kind of race......gosh, even a toddler's crawling race over 20 feet ......and it's useless to time any of the fast races where split timing is required to as low as 3 decimal places. The inaccuracy of a mechanically timed Chrono would be simply staggering!!

Right.....so that brings me back to the original question: What the hell do you use a mechanical Chronograph for when it's so damn inaccurate and useless??

JJ

LOL...slow day at the office JJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by springer

LOL...slow day at the office JJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah........right!! Slow day and look what I've started up?!!

[Singslinger]

Originally Posted by Dom

Dear friends - I am still brand new to this forum, but let me remind you that discussions around the accuracy of mechanical watches including complications brought the Swiss watch making industry close to extinction (I dare say as a Swiss). We all know that the digital age has started a while ago. With mechanical watches however, we are talking craftsmanship, passion COMBINED WITH precision.

As a kid I had a bunch of Casio watches that did all sorts of cool stuff. But none of them had the soul of a mechanical watch. Different people will buy a particular watch for different reasons. I time my steak or noodles with the lovely Daytona of mine - whilst realizing that a kitchen timer might have been the cheaper option.

Thanks to emotions (and a bunch of watch nuts out there), an industry that I adore and am proud of has kept the art of watch making alive to be passed on for generations to come.

Well said!

[Atomant]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Sorry, guys......please don't flame me, but here's a very simple question:

In this day and age of high speed electronic laser-edged technology where races and finishes are timed to as low as 1/1000th of a second, what good is a mechanical chronograph movement?

It's pretty bloody useless to time any kind of race......gosh, even a toddler's crawling race over 20 feet ......and it's useless to time any of the fast races where split timing is required to as low as 3 decimal places. The inaccuracy of a mechanically timed Chrono would be simply staggering!!

Right.....so that brings me back to the original question: What the hell do you use a mechanical Chronograph for when it's so damn inaccurate and useless??

JJ

JJ, I think wearing a mechanical watch itself is in appreciation of the art it takes to build it and the culture behind it. It's just like wearing a piece of history you go back in time and live in that era. Who really cares if it's not accurate enough to time today's 'high tech' races? Sanctioned races are not timed with handhelds. What's a 'high tech' race? If you ask me, I think it's pretty useless wearing a mechanical watch while diving simply due to the presence of dive computers but as a diver, I wear a Rolex divewatch for the appreciation and culture of it.

[Atomant]

Originally Posted by Dom

Dear friends - I am still brand new to this forum, but let me remind you that discussions around the accuracy of mechanical watches including complications brought the Swiss watch making industry close to extinction (I dare say as a Swiss). We all know that the digital age has started a while ago. With mechanical watches however, we are talking craftsmanship, passion COMBINED WITH precision.

As a kid I had a bunch of Casio watches that did all sorts of cool stuff. But none of them had the soul of a mechanical watch. Different people will buy a particular watch for different reasons. I time my steak or noodles with the lovely Daytona of mine - whilst realizing that a kitchen timer might have been the cheaper option.

Thanks to emotions (and a bunch of watch nuts out there), an industry that I adore and am proud of has kept the art of watch making alive to be passed on for generations to come.

Exactly.

[Otto]

Originally Posted by rdrzman

Quality,, ok but no better than a speedmaster in terms of the movement and it cost's less than a third of the price.

You may not but you surely would not buy one for timing would you? If not then why buy it unless it is for the look or vanity?

Yes my third comment covers all Rolex watches, in fact any watch made because the triggering device is a human.

Tell you what, you get on your boat and get out your watch to calculate longitude and I will use my GPS, my bet is a new Daytona that you miss your mark by one mile in a trip from the UK to New York.. Come on I will put my $$$ where my mouth is.

Not bashing the quality of the watch but rather the usefulness of it. I love Jay Leno's Steamer (a steam car) but it has no use today, just as gas cars will have no place once electric is perfected or a tape is not useful because of the CD and in the future the CD will no longer be useful. Heck for that matter we are the lase or next to last that will have use for a watch at all. Just look at the wrists of 20 somethings or below.

You have a curious way of not bashing the quality of the watch.

If you read this thread, you will see I have listed the reasons why I bought my Daytonas.

I thought this thread was just pure silliness from the start, but some of the comments surprise me.

Isn't this a forum for people who appreciate fine mechanical timepieces, which are almost without exception quite expensive luxury items? Can't we just appreciate a mechanical complication for its design and manufactured quality without having to defend its practical usefulness in the humdrum, pedestrian, sometimes vulgar everyday world?

IMHO, the argument that a complication is an unnecessary extravagance because it is not useful or not as useful as a cell phone or a quartz watch is a pretty weird argument on a forum dedicated to fine timepieces.

[rdrzman]

Originally Posted by Otto

You have a curious way of not bashing the quality of the watch.

If you read this thread, you will see I have listed the reasons why I bought my Daytonas.

I thought this thread was just pure silliness from the start, but some of the comments surprise me.

Isn't this a forum for people who appreciate fine mechanical timepieces, which are almost without exception quite expensive luxury items? Can't we just appreciate a mechanical complication for its design and manufactured quality without having to defend its practical usefulness in the humdrum, pedestrian, sometimes vulgar everyday world?

IMHO, the argument that a complication is an unnecessary extravagance because it is not useful or not as useful as a cell phone or a quartz watch is a pretty weird argument on a forum dedicated to fine timepieces.

Well Otto you have an opinion that is for sure and I really feel put in my place by it...

That said, it is an unnecessary extravagance but for that matter so are watches in general now. But I still have over 2000 of the things. We were talking about the need of the chronograph but not the desire to possess a mechanical wonder. I stated it as a pure fact not as the emotional argument for purchase you seem to prefer.

I personally do not purchase expensive NEW watches and a Rolex Daytona is like a Patek, over priced and under value in MY OPINION and it is just that MY OPINION.

Funny how some guys do not want to hear a different opinion then theirs or it is deemed WEIRD... don't you think a whole site dedicated to a single brand a little weird? Look around,,, most of us are nuts to begin with, how many of your friends understand the obsession of watch collecting?

And I doubt many on this site even understand the workings of the watch or have had one open on a bench, I have and love watches from an even deeper level than the look of the case and dial but that was not the topic here. Are you feeling attacked because of your decision to buy one? I certainly did not feel I was attacked because you did at least not until now.

If you do not like my opinion that is fine too but to call it weird, well you have gull I will give you that. What country are you from? Do they allow a descending opinion there?

Sheep Bahhhhh

[JIM-]

Funniest thing is the guys who time eggs with a Daytona, LMAO, might be the silliest thing I've ever heard. Comon the Daytona is a presteige thing only, other then that it serves no practial function.

Oh I need to time that race, quick let me unscrew the buttons and hope I remembered to reset the chrono hand.

[rdrzman]

There are currently 428 of them on Ebay alone, hardly a rare watch

Oh and only 382 Omega Speedmasters... well I was suiprised but not shocked, this confirms what I am seeing at the high end Jewelry and loans, the market is over saturated with Rolex product right now.

Keeping the production artifically low is one of the smartest marketing ploys Rolex has employed but it still was not enough to keep the market from being flooded. We are still on the brink of financial melt down with Obama meeting with the credit card companies today, the next in line for failure. Keep an eye on this and WAIT to buy any new watch even Rolex cannot stem the rising tide of inventory in the market.

[rdrzman]

If you really want to spend money try this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-OMEGA-SPEED...3A1%7C294%3A50

You could time a whold lot of eggs with this set

[Otto]

Originally Posted by rdrzman

Well Otto you have an opinion that is for sure and I really feel put in my place by it...

That said, it is an unnecessary extravagance but for that matter so are watches in general now. But I still have over 2000 of the things. We were talking about the need of the chronograph but not the desire to possess a mechanical wonder. I stated it as a pure fact not as the emotional argument for purchase you seem to prefer.

I personally do not purchase expensive NEW watches and a Rolex Daytona is like a Patek, over priced and under value in MY OPINION and it is just that MY OPINION.

Funny how some guys do not want to hear a different opinion then theirs or it is deemed WEIRD... don't you think a whole site dedicated to a single brand a little weird? Look around,,, most of us are nuts to begin with, how many of your friends understand the obsession of watch collecting?

And I doubt many on this site even understand the workings of the watch or have had one open on a bench, I have and love watches from an even deeper level than the look of the case and dial but that was not the topic here. Are you feeling attacked because of your decision to buy one? I certainly did not feel I was attacked because you did at least not until now.

If you do not like my opinion that is fine too but to call it weird, well you have gull I will give you that. What country are you from? Do they allow a descending opinion there?

Sheep Bahhhhh

Calm down, friend. Take a breath and reflect. I called the argument weird, not you. You're not the only one to make the argument. That's my opinion; like it or not. And don't worry about me. I'm comfortable with my Daytonas, my other watches, and my nationality (what's that comment about anyway???).

[Tony-GB]

JJ, go to the revamped Tudor website & look at the new chrono. But be warned- it's porn!

[rdrzman]

Otto,

The arguement is not weird at all, where better than a watch site to discuss ... umm watches???

You said:

"IMHO, the argument that a complication is an unnecessary extravagance because it is not useful or not as useful as a cell phone or a quartz watch is a pretty weird argument on a forum dedicated to fine timepieces."

It was my post and my argument you called weird, now you say it was a general comment.... back tracking will not help Otto.

Farel

[Atomant]

Originally Posted by Otto

You have a curious way of not bashing the quality of the watch.

If you read this thread, you will see I have listed the reasons why I bought my Daytonas.

I thought this thread was just pure silliness from the start, but some of the comments surprise me.

Isn't this a forum for people who appreciate fine mechanical timepieces, which are almost without exception quite expensive luxury items? Can't we just appreciate a mechanical complication for its design and manufactured quality without having to defend its practical usefulness in the humdrum, pedestrian, sometimes vulgar everyday world?

IMHO, the argument that a complication is an unnecessary extravagance because it is not useful or not as useful as a cell phone or a quartz watch is a pretty weird argument on a forum dedicated to fine timepieces.

Couldn't agree more with you. This thread don't make any sense at all.

[rdrzman]

Are you an engineer Otto? Just courious.

[Otto]

Originally Posted by rdrzman

Otto,

The arguement is not weird at all, where better than a watch site to discuss ... umm watches???

Farel

OK. I confess!!! I can't keep up the charade any longer!!! I could care less about quality, complications, horological history, the differences between the Zenith and the Rolex in-house movements, whatever!! I bought my Daytonas for one reason; to attract this woman and others like her since they obviously prefer the Daytona; and at this stage of my life, I need all the help I can get. Of course, the cruel joke is she is alas(pardon the pun) a CGI creation, a sort of flawless quartz version of a real woman.

[Otto]

Originally Posted by rdrzman

Are you an engineer Otto? Just courious.

No; I'm a lawyer who often works with engineers.

[Mosco]

I think JJ was just trying to stir up and it worked! You silly fools!

[JIM-]

Originally Posted by rdrzman

If you really want to spend money try this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-OMEGA-SPEED...3A1%7C294%3A50

You could time a whold lot of eggs with this set

Think of how much he must of spent and all on basically the same watch, what a dope. Nice collection by comon seriously that a waste.

[Tony-GB]

Originally Posted by rdrzman

If you really want to spend money try this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-OMEGA-SPEED...3A1%7C294%3A50

You could time a whold lot of eggs with this set

But which one gets the most wrist time?

[Prince]

Originally Posted by Otto

OK. I confess!!! ...I bought my Daytonas for one reason; to attract this woman and others like her...

Way to go, Otto!!!

[JJ Irani]

I'm not saying another word on this thread!!

[SUB4Me]

Originally Posted by Singslinger

It's a good question, especially since for the Daytona, there's the inconvenience of unscrewing/screwing the two crowns before activating/resetting the chrono.

I've hardly ever used the Daytona for timing anything because of this, though I do use my other chronos (Omega Speedmaster and Sinn U1000) for timing durations of various activities such as a 5km or 10km run. So why did I buy the Daytona? Because it looks cool of course!

I never really used the timers on my Daytona when I had one.

[PalmSpringsCaVault]

Apperciating the complexity of the movement all ran buy a springs is pretty amazing.