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Old 25 November 2020, 12:37 AM   #121
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Old 25 November 2020, 12:39 AM   #122
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Top 3 STUPID myths on TRF

There is not much missing here, except the have-to-agree explanations such as how many seconds a day has, that nobody should use a loup, refrences to a WIS, and other watch fundamentals from the wise frog man
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Old 25 November 2020, 01:17 AM   #123
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So you're saying a Rolex watch is supposed to "rest" and is not built to be worn on a daily basis?

I've never heard that before.

You do realize that the essence of a clock is an instrument built with the sole purpose to continuously display accurate time?

While a watch is mechanical, it is purposely built for being used 24/7. Hence why you need to service it on a regular basis.
Which is why grandfather clocks have been used for centuries, with no 'rest' time needed. We're supposed to believe they didn't need to be rested, but a modern state of the art timepiece does?

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Old 25 November 2020, 01:18 AM   #124
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Agree with points 1 and 3 but disagree with 2. Wear and tear is real.
I disagree, like people, a mechanical object will 'rust' out before it wears out.
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Old 25 November 2020, 01:30 AM   #125
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Old 25 November 2020, 02:01 AM   #126
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Not quite. Sorry, this is not a perfect guide to care for your watch. Watch winders in particular will cause a shorter service interval, no question about it!! This is just my opinion but from observing my watches off winders equal longer service intervals compared to watches on winders needing service sooner or stopped running altogether in an astonishingly short time.
So wearing a watch on your wrist will also make it stop running in an astonishingly short time?
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Old 25 November 2020, 02:02 AM   #127
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Recently I had a Rolex watchmaker give me a lengthy lecture on the problems with winders. His point was the longer you run your on a winder the quicker you will need service. He showed me on his watch analysis machine how my 2 year old Date was showing some pinion wear and asked if I used a winder.

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Your two year old Date would have had the same wear if worn daily, correct?

We need a thread on myths told by AD personnel.
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Old 25 November 2020, 02:09 AM   #128
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Old 25 November 2020, 06:10 AM   #129
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Just did a search on TRF for ultramarathon after reading that you are an Ultra runner. Just read your 47km “failure” thread. Did you sort out your problem with overpronating btw?

I’ve done a few marathons and ultra marathons but I seem to be hit with bad luck recently. Last year I was due to run the Nobeyama 100km. I trained for 6 months then on the Wednesday before the Sunday race, I ran into the living room, accidentally kicked the door frame and broke a bone in my toe. I tried a 5km “tester” run on the Friday to see if I could run but was in pain all the way so I didn’t start the race.
Fast forward to this year and a week before I was due to run the Tokyo marathon, the organisers cancelled it due to COVID. I’d been applying for the last 6 years and finally got a place. Was in the best condition I’ve ever been in too. At least I have a place in the 2022 Tokyo marathon.

All the best, and keep on running.
The right shoes fixed that, but the cause of me dropping out of the 100km race was shin splints due to overtraining. I built up my mileage too quickly and didn't taper off enough before the race.
Have not attempted a 100km race ever since, but I will definitely do that again (have 100miles as ultimate goal). Ran a trail marathon last year and a few solo runs of marathon distance and slightly more this year. Obviously Covid19 got in the way and also cancelled a 55km race I was going to attend. Let's hope next year will be better

Sorry to hear you had that happen to your foot after training for so long, I'm sure that must have been very frustrating.
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Old 25 November 2020, 06:50 AM   #130
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Which is why grandfather clocks have been used for centuries, with no 'rest' time needed. We're supposed to believe they didn't need to be rested, but a modern state of the art timepiece does?

But a grandfather clock has a pendulum that swings back and forth once per second.
And they still need servicing once in a while.
Although I've heard from the very old timers that a small rag with a few drops of kero on it tucked up in the corner of the head will almost certainly extend the once in a lifetime intervals between services due to the vapours emanating out of the cloth.
Or is that a myth too?
Then again strictly speaking the kero will need to be refreshed, so does that constitute a degree of ongoing maintenance like checking coolant and oil levels in a car?
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Old 25 November 2020, 06:54 AM   #131
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Which is why grandfather clocks have been used for centuries, with no 'rest' time needed. We're supposed to believe they didn't need to be rested, but a modern state of the art timepiece does?


I like to get the cushion of film that the gears ride on nice and dry before firing them up again to ensure metal contact instead of letting them ride on a near frictionless cushion of lube with no direct contact.

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Old 25 November 2020, 07:19 AM   #132
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So wearing a watch on your wrist will also make it stop running in an astonishingly short time?
On a winder, needs service more often. This has been my experience...
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Old 25 November 2020, 07:25 AM   #133
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Great post and much needed on TRF.
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Old 25 November 2020, 09:08 AM   #134
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Fact: All mechanical devices incur wear from use. Sorry, some things are just the way they are. With watches most of the parts which incur the most wear from use are replaced in a full service. So use of a winder really has little effect on the long term health and longevity of a watch, if it is serviced as needed. It is never necessary to put a simple time/date only watch on a winder where it can be easily set and wound when needed for wear. Winders are advised for perpetual calendars because the modules are so thin with small parts, they are better to keep in motion to keep the oils working well and setting some PCs is actually stressful on the movement and correctors.
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Old 25 November 2020, 09:12 AM   #135
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Old 25 November 2020, 09:16 AM   #136
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On a winder, needs service more often. This has been my experience...
How does a winder, which moves less than human movement, wear it more than a human wearing it?
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Old 25 November 2020, 09:18 AM   #137
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But a grandfather clock has a pendulum that swings back and forth once per second.
Sounds like the Oyster Perpetual movement.

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And they still need servicing once in a while.
A different question, I'm all for periodic service, my question is how could grandfather clocks from centuries ago run constantly with no rest but a modern state of the art watch can't?

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Although I've heard from the very old timers that a small rag with a few drops of kero on it tucked up in the corner of the head will almost certainly extend the once in a lifetime intervals between services due to the vapours emanating out of the cloth.
Or is that a myth too?
Then again strictly speaking the kero will need to be refreshed, so does that constitute a degree of ongoing maintenance like checking coolant and oil levels in a car?
Not sure, but it is off topic.
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Old 25 November 2020, 09:20 AM   #138
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How does a winder, which moves less than human movement, wear it more than a human wearing it?
I think the idea is that a winder wears it more than no movement. It also does a repetitive unnatural tipping motion. I have no personal experience. Those are my thoughts.
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Old 25 November 2020, 09:32 AM   #139
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Old 25 November 2020, 09:46 AM   #140
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The actual three myths on TRF are:

1. Rolex is a "tool watch".

2. TRF members don't care about prestige and showing off (unlike every other Rolex owner in the world).

3. James Bond is a real person.
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Old 25 November 2020, 09:48 AM   #141
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The actual three myths on TRF are:

1. Rolex is a "tool watch".

2. TRF members don't care about prestige and showing off (unlike every other Rolex owner in the world).

3. James Bond is a real person.
Hahaha. Youve outdone yourself with this post.
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Old 25 November 2020, 09:50 AM   #142
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Old 25 November 2020, 09:52 AM   #143
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The actual three myths on TRF are:

1. Rolex is a "tool watch".

2. TRF members don't care about prestige and showing off (unlike every other Rolex owner in the world).

3. James Bond is a real person.




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Old 25 November 2020, 10:53 AM   #144
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Ya you wrong! I have a date just that wasn’t worn in 20+ years and I wear it 3-4 times a year for the last 18 months with no issues.

My AD specifically said don’t touch it
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Old 25 November 2020, 11:54 AM   #145
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How does a winder, which moves less than human movement, wear it more than a human wearing it?
All I can tell you, one of my watches absolutely wore out in half the time before and since being on a winder 24/7. I can only tell you what I’ve experienced.
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Old 25 November 2020, 12:03 PM   #146
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Rolex watches can get wet. Come on guys, we all know they belong in the safe never to be worn or enjoyed
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Old 25 November 2020, 12:53 PM   #147
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That last point is what I’ve been feeling about the Sub actually. It seems like a lot of new purchasers have been able to buy this year with only a few weeks wait, makes it seem like not such a hot commodity anymore since it’s so available.

Still doesn’t change the fact that a lot of people see it as a classic and are happy to get their hands on one I suppose.
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Old 25 November 2020, 12:54 PM   #148
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The actual three myths on TRF are:

1. Rolex is a "tool watch".

2. TRF members don't care about prestige and showing off (unlike every other Rolex owner in the world).

3. James Bond is a real person.

Agree on 2 outta those three. James concurs as well.
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Old 25 November 2020, 01:07 PM   #149
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The actual three myths on TRF are:

1. Rolex is a "tool watch".

2. TRF members don't care about prestige and showing off (unlike every other Rolex owner in the world).

3. James Bond is a real person.
Addressing your #2, some people in this world appreciate quality and craftsmanship and not what anyone thinks about them. #3. Wasn’t Ian Fleming the real James Bond?
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Unless your watchwinder vibrates more than a Sybian


This one!!!! Why has no one mentioned this in the comments?

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