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mvmbles · 20 June 2012, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mosco

placing large orders with AD’s (and therefore obtaining goods at discount)

Greg, thank you so much for the information provided in this thread.

I'm sure it's dependent on your relationship with an AD, but my question for now is how many pieces would constitute an order large enough that one could negotiate a significant discount?

Mosco · 20 June 2012, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mvmbles

Greg, thank you so much for the information provided in this thread.

I'm sure it's dependent on your relationship with an AD, but my question for now is how many pieces would constitute an order large enough that one could negotiate a significant discount?

not so much how many pieces, but the dollar amount is what has the heaviest effect. $50k and up usually starts getting you an acceptable discount.

perpetualman88 · 20 June 2012, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mvmbles

Greg, thank you so much for the information provided in this thread.

I'm sure it's dependent on your relationship with an AD, but my question for now is how many pieces would constitute an order large enough that one could negotiate a significant discount?

Completely depends on what brand your talking about and what your relationship is with the brand or it's retailers :)

Thought id chime in greg im bored on the plane to San francisco haha

mannyv11 · 20 June 2012, 04:25 AM

This is by far one of the best threads I have read on the forums... thanks again for this

ft laud mike · 20 June 2012, 04:26 AM

Mike, my pleasure! Miami - too far in advance to tell, but knowing the weather in Ohio in November, I'll be itching to skip out to a warmer climate for a few days :)

, Let me know if you decide to & thanks for the assistance

ciscopro2000 · 20 June 2012, 05:29 AM

Love this thread and thank you for sharing your knowledge Greg.

Many of my questions have been answered already, but I have a couple. How many pieces do you normally have in inventory and are there any particular model(s) that you hoard with the expectation that they will become hugely collectible in the future? Thank you.

Mosco · 20 June 2012, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ciscopro2000

How many pieces do you normally have in inventory and are there any particular model(s) that you hoard with the expectation that they will become hugely collectible in the future? Thank you.

Number of pieces really, really varies.

If hoard, only for personal reasons, otherwise - sell if you have an opportunity.

Mosco · 20 June 2012, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by perpetualman88

Completely depends on what brand your talking about and what your relationship is with the brand or it's retailers :)

Thought id chime in greg im bored on the plane to San francisco haha

Yep, that's accurate too. Safe travels my friend and chime anytime

hdrazor251 · 20 June 2012, 12:33 PM

I guess I do have a question after all.

How did you you end up becoming a "Grey" dealer? And by that I mean:

a) You were a banker or something when your watch hobby got out of control and you realized you would be happier earning a living buying and selling

b) Worked for an AD and realized an opportunity

c) Took over you Father-in-law's business

d) Other

Again...great thread and thanks for starting it

RolexWatcher · 20 June 2012, 01:00 PM

Greg/Mosco, great thread!

One of the BEST threads of 2012! I have never brought from you yet but you are definitely one of the good TRF dealers! No questions yet but just want to say thanks for starting this thread.

By the way, I was reading the circumstances on how you joined TRF and it is just so funny when I compared to how you are posting now.

warren G. · 20 June 2012, 01:11 PM

What is the weirdest city/town you ever ship a watch to?

ex : I once ship a watch to Tightwad Missouri. According to Wiki, population less than 80.

masterserg · 20 June 2012, 01:19 PM

Thank you for this thread. A classic!

520Matt · 20 June 2012, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by EE33

I did however read recently that a couple of what I thought were long time trusted sellers got banned here on TRF. One of the banning I could sort of understand, but the other I couldn't find any history on.

Des,

who were the sellers that were banned, if you don't mind me asking? I haven't been as much recently. thx

Greg, great thread!

EE33 · 20 June 2012, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 520Matt

Des,

who were the sellers that were banned, if you don't mind me asking? I haven't been as much recently. thx

Pm sent Matt.

Mosco · 20 June 2012, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hdrazor251

I guess I do have a question after all.

How did you you end up becoming a "Grey" dealer? And by that I mean:

a) You were a banker or something when your watch hobby got out of control and you realized you would be happier earning a living buying and selling

b) Worked for an AD and realized an opportunity

c) Took over you Father-in-law's business

d) Other

Again...great thread and thanks for starting it

Thanks

The business was my start-up... "A" applies the best, I was a mortgage broker and realized that my heart was just not in it. Was making great money for a guy in the early 20's, but was absolutely miserable. With the growing usefulness of ebay, it became easier to start buying/selling/trading watches, rare books, and Hunter S. Thompson memorabilia (my 3 obsessions), so took a leap of faith and decided to do it full time.

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Originally Posted by RolexWatcher

Greg/Mosco, great thread!

One of the BEST threads of 2012! I have never brought from you yet but you are definitely one of the good TRF dealers! No questions yet but just want to say thanks for starting this thread.

By the way, I was reading the circumstances on how you joined TRF and it is just so funny when I compared to how you are posting now.

Yeah... I am glad that took place, it definitely is an example of that whole "lemon/lemonade" saying in action

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Originally Posted by warren G.

What is the weirdest city/town you ever ship a watch to?

ex : I once ship a watch to Tightwad Missouri. According to Wiki, population less than 80.

Well - it was more of an island, but when I saw "Phuket" on the shipping instructions, it made me giggle...

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Originally Posted by masterserg

Thank you for this thread. A classic!

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Originally Posted by 520Matt

Greg, great thread!

Thanks guys!

Cru Jones · 20 June 2012, 11:16 PM

hey greg,

there's another thread floating around on subjective terms like "mint", etc.

what does "LNIB" and "mint" mean to you?

and, do you think your understanding is the general understanding among reputable re-sellers?

eric23 · 21 June 2012, 12:43 AM

Great Thread Greg!

joeychitwood · 21 June 2012, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mosco

With the growing usefulness of eBay, it became easier to start buying/selling/trading watches, rare books, and Hunter S. Thompson memorabilia (my 3 obsessions).....

I have a First Edition (unsigned) copy of Hunter S. Thompson's classic Hell's Angels: A Strange and Terrible Saga with a decent dust jacket. It's a great read. I used to lend it out to friends until I found out it was worth a few bucks. Do you sell HST memorabilia on a forum site or just on eBay?

Route 66 · 21 June 2012, 02:11 AM

What a great idea for a thread Greg, thanks!

I understand that it's necessary for you sellers to hide the serial number of your watches to protect your sources. I've often wondered if there's any reason for the average joe (like me) to also block the serial number of a watch we happen to be selling on the forum.

TheVTCGuy · 21 June 2012, 02:31 AM

Great thread Greg! I wish you all the success. I must admit when I first got in to watches years ago, I was a little leery of "Greys" (Sounds like those alien movies), but since knowing people like you and Tony (Just Rolexes) and David (DavidSW) I have completely changed my mind. Everyone I've met has been a professional in every way.

I have always, and think I always will buy my watches from walking in to ADs, we can get in to those reasons another time, but anyone that chooses to purchase from you guys can do so with confidence.

I guess I only have one question...

Can I be your new assistant!?!?!?

Mosco · 21 June 2012, 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

hey greg,

there's another thread floating around on subjective terms like "mint", etc.

what does "LNIB" and "mint" mean to you?

and, do you think your understanding is the general understanding among reputable re-sellers?

They mean nothing. It is all in an eye of the beholder. That's why one should examine pictures closely and ask for clarification if something is unclear.

And of course my understanding does not represent the 'general', because there is no 'general'. Everyone has a different business structure, degrees vary. These are my experiences.

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Originally Posted by joeychitwood

I have a First Edition (unsigned) copy of Hunter S. Thompson's classic Hell's Angels: A Strange and Terrible Saga with a decent dust jacket. It's a great read. I used to lend it out to friends until I found out it was worth a few bucks. Do you sell HST memorabilia on a forum site or just on eBay?

Don't sell it at all anymore, too many fakes. Have 3 pieces myself - one of them is the last book he ever signed officially, a small print book called 'Fire in the Nuts", dated late November 2004...

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveArn

I understand that it's necessary for you sellers to hide the serial number of your watches to protect your sources. I've often wondered if there's any reason for the average joe (like me) to also block the serial number of a watch we happen to be selling on the forum.

As a rule of thumb - just do it, cover the serial. Less material out there for fakers is another reason I do it.

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Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

I guess I only have one question...

Can I be your new assistant!?!?!?

I don't know, submit head-shots and portfolio and I'll see what I can do...

mbuckley · 21 June 2012, 04:12 AM

Really informative

Appreciate the effort

Thanks

bodybump · 21 June 2012, 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hdrazor251

I guess I do have a question after all.

How did you you end up becoming a "Grey" dealer? And by that I mean:

a) You were a banker or something when your watch hobby got out of control and you realized you would be happier earning a living buying and selling

b) Worked for an AD and realized an opportunity

c) Took over you Father-in-law's business

d) Other

Again...great thread and thanks for starting it

Might as well Chime in...For me i work as a bartender

Yes as a bartender...and some of our members ive seen had tried to visit me while working...Bought 1 watch in the forum (from Tempoking) and tried to sell it myself...made a little bit better than what i expected...bought another and from then on it just grew..made a lot of friends who have helped me sell watches...TRUST is the main factor here...everything else is just basic selling..

Mosco · 21 June 2012, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bodybump

Might as well Chime in...For me i work as a bartender

Yes as a bartender...and some of our members ive seen had tried to visit me while working...Bought 1 watch in the forum (from Tempoking) and tried to sell it myself...made a little bit better than what i expected...bought another and from then on it just grew..made a lot of friends who have helped me sell watches...TRUST is the main factor here...everything else is just basic selling..

amen to that

DatejustRyan · 21 June 2012, 05:15 AM

Awesome thread, Greg! It gives everyone a great insight into the life of a "Grey" dealer.

emagni · 21 June 2012, 07:22 AM

I'm stealing this question from one of my watch buddies....."Why are most grey dealers from Florida?" LOL

Art 1 · 21 June 2012, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by emagni

I'm stealing this question from one of my watch buddies....."Why are most grey dealers from Florida?" LOL

Florida is a wonderful place to live.

Lmbeauleap · 21 June 2012, 08:30 AM

Thanks for your time on this. Lots of my questions answered already. Hope I didn't miss this one but...will you search for a specific watch for someone? Is this desirable for you as the sale is guaranteed or kind of a pain because you have to seek out specific models limiting your barganing power with your sources?

MortgageGuy · 21 June 2012, 11:36 AM

Great thread Greg! Thank you for taking the time to give back to TRF, what an awesome idea

I hope it comes back to you 10 fold

And this I mean with all sincerity, it is members just like yourself that make this such a great place!

bodybump · 21 June 2012, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lmbeauleap

Thanks for your time on this. Lots of my questions answered already. Hope I didn't miss this one but...will you search for a specific watch for someone? Is this desirable for you as the sale is guaranteed or kind of a pain because you have to seek out specific models limiting your barganing power with your sources?

Searching for a specific watch for a client is not easy...we try our very best to give you the best price there is or match it...If its a guaranteed sale it shouldnt be a problem...sometimes there are clients that are really not ready to pull the trigger but will let you work your ass and demand the lowest price possible and in the end even if you have met his price..you just realized he not yet ready..

20 June 2012, 12:33 PM	#159
hdrazor251 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Jeff Location: Arizona Watch: is recovered!! Posts: 4,255	I guess I do have a question after all. How did you you end up becoming a "Grey" dealer? And by that I mean: a) You were a banker or something when your watch hobby got out of control and you realized you would be happier earning a living buying and selling b) Worked for an AD and realized an opportunity c) Took over you Father-in-law's business d) Other Again...great thread and thanks for starting it __________________ 16753 GMT Master, 16613 Bluesy, 16710 GMT Master II, 16570 Polar Explorer II-Stolen & Recovered!! Card Carrying Member of the Global Assoc. of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

20 June 2012, 01:11 PM	#161
warren G. "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Duy Location: New Orleans, LA Watch: Speedmaster 3861 Posts: 1,925	What is the weirdest city/town you ever ship a watch to? ex : I once ship a watch to Tightwad Missouri. According to Wiki, population less than 80. __________________ De gustibus non est disputandum.

20 June 2012, 01:19 PM	#162
masterserg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Serg Location: US of A Watch: AP Posts: 7,437	Thank you for this thread. A classic! __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat????

21 June 2012, 07:22 AM	#176
emagni "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: on Earth Watch: ing TRF Posts: 1,284	I'm stealing this question from one of my watch buddies....."Why are most grey dealers from Florida?" LOL __________________ Watches: More than my fingers can count

21 June 2012, 11:36 AM	#179
MortgageGuy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Adam Location: Orlando, Florida Watch: Me Posts: 9,935	Great thread Greg! Thank you for taking the time to give back to TRF, what an awesome idea I hope it comes back to you 10 fold And this I mean with all sincerity, it is members just like yourself that make this such a great place! __________________ The richest people in the world look for and build NETWORKS, Everyone else looks for work... Robert Kiyosaki

20 June 2012, 04:25 AM	#154
mannyv11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Manny Location: MA Watch: DD,Sub,GMT,Daytona Posts: 4,512	This is by far one of the best threads I have read on the forums... thanks again for this

20 June 2012, 04:26 AM	#155
ft laud mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: ft lauderdale Posts: 250	Mike, my pleasure! Miami - too far in advance to tell, but knowing the weather in Ohio in November, I'll be itching to skip out to a warmer climate for a few days :) , Let me know if you decide to & thanks for the assistance

20 June 2012, 05:29 AM	#156
ciscopro2000 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mark Location: San Diego Watch: 116500 Posts: 255	Love this thread and thank you for sharing your knowledge Greg. Many of my questions have been answered already, but I have a couple. How many pieces do you normally have in inventory and are there any particular model(s) that you hoard with the expectation that they will become hugely collectible in the future? Thank you.

20 June 2012, 01:00 PM	#160
RolexWatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Vincent Location: LON HKG SYD Posts: 1,236	Greg/Mosco, great thread! One of the BEST threads of 2012! I have never brought from you yet but you are definitely one of the good TRF dealers! No questions yet but just want to say thanks for starting this thread. By the way, I was reading the circumstances on how you joined TRF and it is just so funny when I compared to how you are posting now.

20 June 2012, 11:16 PM	#166
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,307	hey greg, there's another thread floating around on subjective terms like "mint", etc. what does "LNIB" and "mint" mean to you? and, do you think your understanding is the general understanding among reputable re-sellers?

21 June 2012, 12:43 AM	#167
eric23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Calgary Posts: 9,595	Great Thread Greg!

21 June 2012, 02:11 AM	#169
Route 66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Steve Location: Burbank, CA Watch: 214270 Mark II Posts: 4,121	What a great idea for a thread Greg, thanks! I understand that it's necessary for you sellers to hide the serial number of your watches to protect your sources. I've often wondered if there's any reason for the average joe (like me) to also block the serial number of a watch we happen to be selling on the forum.

21 June 2012, 02:31 AM	#170
TheVTCGuy Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Paul Location: San Diego Watch: 126619LB Posts: 21,540	Great thread Greg! I wish you all the success. I must admit when I first got in to watches years ago, I was a little leery of "Greys" (Sounds like those alien movies), but since knowing people like you and Tony (Just Rolexes) and David (DavidSW) I have completely changed my mind. Everyone I've met has been a professional in every way. I have always, and think I always will buy my watches from walking in to ADs, we can get in to those reasons another time, but anyone that chooses to purchase from you guys can do so with confidence. I guess I only have one question... Can I be your new assistant!?!?!?

21 June 2012, 04:12 AM	#172
mbuckley "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Michael Location: Norman, Oklahoma Watch: Exp II Posts: 616	Really informative Appreciate the effort Thanks

21 June 2012, 05:15 AM	#175
DatejustRyan "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Ryan Location: Boston, NYC Watch: PP5712R Posts: 476	Awesome thread, Greg! It gives everyone a great insight into the life of a "Grey" dealer.

21 June 2012, 08:30 AM	#178
Lmbeauleap "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Wisconsin Watch: Franken Posts: 437	Thanks for your time on this. Lots of my questions answered already. Hope I didn't miss this one but...will you search for a specific watch for someone? Is this desirable for you as the sale is guaranteed or kind of a pain because you have to seek out specific models limiting your barganing power with your sources?

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