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TheVTCGuy · 18 April 2013, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Kingair

I love flying it Paul !

It just drinks a few gallons of Avgas more that I can drink beer . . .

Next ride this summer will be in a P-51 . . . dual controls

Last summer I did a few hours in the Fouga Magister . . . nice jet as well . . . easy and flies really smooth
The year before I did some hours in the L-39 Albatros.

Now I am thinking to do my Cessna Citation Type Rating . . . just thinking of it Paul . . . ;-)

I think that maybe one day I have to drive a little bit more North in Cal so that we can have some beers together

HAGOne buddie

The Beers are on me Marc

(it won't be too expensive since I don't drink

). Anytime, come on over and we'll talk flying

P.S. Hey.. wait.. maybe the beers should be on you since I 2013 pledged you...

Kingair · 19 April 2013, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

The Beers are on me Marc

(it won't be too expensive since I don't drink

). Anytime, come on over and we'll talk flying

P.S. Hey.. wait.. maybe the beers should be on you since I 2013 pledged you...

We'll Paul many thanks for the Pledge !

I'll pay the beers

See you soon !

HAGOne buddie

Kingair · 24 April 2013, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by joeychitwood

Two legendary P-51 pilots and restorers near here have died in the past few years. Bob Odegaard crashed his recently restored F2G Super Corsair last September.

Here is the report of the FAA . . . pilot error . . to low . . .

http://www.flyingmag.com/technique/a...MjE0NzY4OTYzS0

Pretty easy explanation if you ask me ?

Controls might have been stuck as well . . .

HAGOne

joeychitwood · 25 April 2013, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Kingair

Here is the report of the FAA . . . pilot error . . to low . . .

http://www.flyingmag.com/technique/a...MjE0NzY4OTYzS0

Pretty easy explanation if you ask me ?

Controls might have been stuck as well . . .

HAGOne

I read this in the local newspaper this morning. His friends, including an Air Force major general with 20,000 hours, can't believe it, but everybody makes mistakes. Most don't lead to death, but Odegaard was not immune to human error.

cajunron · 27 April 2013, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jcd

I worked this PA28 a couple weeks ago.....

VFR pilot, that's what the plane looked like in flight.

Hopefully you can see the pic since I swiped it from an FAA site.

Talk about spatial disorientation!

Angrypuppy · 27 April 2013, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jcd

I worked this PA28 a couple weeks ago.....

VFR pilot, that's what the plane looked like in flight.

Hopefully you can see the pic since I swiped it from an FAA site.

The things we do when we are young and dumb. Years ago i flew part 135 in WA state across the cascade mountains in small planes. When there was icing we would get a "cruise clearence" and start climbing. By the time we had enough ice we couldn't maintain altitude any more we were on the other side of the mountains and could descend. I only had to turn back a few times.

No way in hell I would that now. That picture reminded me of it. One trick we had was to blast the cabin heat. It blew on the lower part of the windscreen. You would end up with a 3"x5" hole in the ice you could see through to land.

Kingair · 28 April 2013, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Angrypuppy

The things we do when we are young and dumb. Years ago i flew part 135 in WA state across the cascade mountains in small planes. When there was icing we would get a "cruise clearence" and start climbing. By the time we had enough ice we couldn't maintain altitude any more we were on the other side of the mountains and could descend. I only had to turn back a few times.

No way in hell I would that now. That picture reminded me of it. One trick we had was to blast the cabin heat. It blew on the lower part of the windscreen. You would end up with a 3"x5" hole in the ice you could see through to land.

Reading this I start to sweat . . . but I did crazy things myself when I was a younger rookie pilot . . .

HAGWe

jcd · 28 April 2013, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Angrypuppy

The things we do when we are young and dumb. Years ago i flew part 135 in WA state across the cascade mountains in small planes. When there was icing we would get a "cruise clearence" and start climbing. By the time we had enough ice we couldn't maintain altitude any more we were on the other side of the mountains and could descend. I only had to turn back a few times.

No way in hell I would that now. That picture reminded me of it. One trick we had was to blast the cabin heat. It blew on the lower part of the windscreen. You would end up with a 3"x5" hole in the ice you could see through to land.

Holy crap! That's crazy. Well, you know that. We never issue cruise clearances anymore. Most pilots seem to be unaware of what they are and what you can do if issued one.

And this pilot was indeed disoriented. I talked him out of 2 "death spirals." This incident made the local news and the pilot was interviewed. He said he was fine and could have made it on his own. But that it was easier with my help. I too am a pilot and took that as a slap in the face.

Angrypuppy · 28 April 2013, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jcd

Holy crap! That's crazy. Well, you know that. We never issue cruise clearances anymore. Most pilots seem to be unaware of what they are and what you can do if issued one.

And this pilot was indeed disoriented. I talked him out of 2 "death spirals." This incident made the local news and the pilot was interviewed. He said he was fine and could have made it on his own. But that it was easier with my help. I too am a pilot and took that as a slap in the face.

He was dead without your help. He's an ass for not acknowledging it.

I'll buy you a beer that should be from him if I ever meet you.

mikkibarry · 29 April 2013, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Angrypuppy

He was dead without your help. He's an ass for not acknowledging it.

I'll buy you a beer that should be from him if I ever meet you.

Sounds like a "young bold" pilot to me. I can't count how many times ATC had my back. Thank you for all you do.

jcd · 29 April 2013, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Angrypuppy

He was dead without your help. He's an ass for not acknowledging it.

I'll buy you a beer that should be from him if I ever meet you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikkibarry

Sounds like a "young bold" pilot to me. I can't count how many times ATC had my back. Thank you for all you do.

Thanks guys. I appreciate that. I did my best with a crap situation and have gotten a few pats on the back within the ATC community. We help pilots, they help us, life is good

Angrypuppy · 30 April 2013, 12:56 PM

Cool video of an Airbus flying into Bhutan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsZqN-uEgQU

seand442 · 30 April 2013, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Angrypuppy

Cool video of an Airbus flying into Bhutan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsZqN-uEgQU

That'll make the crew work a bit. Cool video. Tegucigalpa and St Maarten are a couple other airports I like watching landing videos. I'm lame. I know it but its better than cat videos.

joeychitwood · 1 May 2013, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Angrypuppy

Cool video of an Airbus flying into Bhutan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsZqN-uEgQU

Landing at the old airport in Hong Kong felt like that as a passenger, only with a death dive as the pilot turned right.

Kingair · 1 May 2013, 04:49 PM

Cape Air

Still flying a large fleet on piston power !

http://www.jaunted.com/story/2013/4/...r+True+Weight+

HAGOne

Dr. Robert · 1 May 2013, 05:24 PM

IMHO, still the best airplane
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=E9CVLVevm4E

Angrypuppy · 2 May 2013, 01:03 AM

Godspeed. Hard to watch. Two days ago at bagram. Looks like a cargo shift.

http://youtu.be/vo51Be2jL8c

joe100 · 2 May 2013, 01:17 AM

I thought it was a cart shift too. I read an account of a loadmaster who watched the vid yesterday and he said it looked exactly like that's just what happened.

Look how he wallows and then flattens out. I'm sure as he the cg shifted that was the best aoa he could manage.

Kingair · 2 May 2013, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by joe100

I thought it was a cart shift too. I read an account of a loadmaster who watched the vid yesterday and he said it looked exactly like that's just what happened.

Look how he wallows and then flattens out. I'm sure as he the cg shifted that was the best aoa he could manage.

I bet you that they where working until the last second. . .

Cargo shift is possible but maybe a trim runaway . . .

HAGOne

Kingair · 9 May 2013, 05:58 PM

Apparently lots of pressure (from the politics anyway) . . .

http://www.aviationweek.com/Article...._p0-576804.xml

HAGOne

Kingair · 24 May 2013, 03:41 AM

We'll this would be just fine for me . . . the G650

http://www.bjtonline.com/business-je...nside-the-g650

HAGOne

Kingair · 1 June 2013, 04:53 AM

Read this

http://www.aviationweek.com/Article...._p0-583761.xml

Amazing . . .

HAGOne

Kingair · 12 July 2013, 12:53 AM

Great

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...anding-388153/

HAGOne

skypilot · 12 July 2013, 04:29 AM

"Gerry Beck crashed his Mustang in 2007. "

The Gerry Beck accident happened directly in front of the president of our flying club and myself. Had to think long and hard about whether to return to Oshkosh the following year.

Kingair · 12 July 2013, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by skypilot

"Gerry Beck crashed his Mustang in 2007. "

The Gerry Beck accident happened directly in front of the president of our flying club and myself. Had to think long and hard about whether to return to Oshkosh the following year.

Sorry to read this sad news . . .

Take care

Kingair · 12 July 2013, 06:30 AM

Pretty close

http://www.businessinsider.com/watch...ourists-2013-7

HAGOne

SearChart · 15 July 2013, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Kingair

This one just arrived . . .

1425 HP

What a sound

HAGOne

Is that an F4F Wildcat?

Kingair · 15 July 2013, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SearChart

Is that an F4F Wildcat?

It's a T-28 North American Trojan

Wildcat is at lest 1/3 smaller

HAGOne

jcd · 26 July 2013, 11:24 AM

Saw this today at work. I'm not positive, but I believe it's the last B-29 still flying. Sorry about the pic quality, but still I thought it was cool.

skypilot · 26 July 2013, 12:08 PM

Yep, that's Fifi, the last B29. It will be at Oshkosh air show next week and so will I.

1 May 2013, 05:24 PM	#166
Dr. Robert 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Bob Location: U.S.A. Watch: 1655 Posts: 64,297	IMHO, still the best airplane http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=E9CVLVevm4E __________________ Founder & Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

2 May 2013, 01:17 AM	#168
joe100 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: New Mexico Watch: Explorer Posts: 12,840	I thought it was a cart shift too. I read an account of a loadmaster who watched the vid yesterday and he said it looked exactly like that's just what happened. Look how he wallows and then flattens out. I'm sure as he the cg shifted that was the best aoa he could manage. __________________ It's Espresso, not Expresso. Coffee is not a train in Italy. -TRF Member 6982-

9 May 2013, 05:58 PM	#170
Kingair "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA Watch: Not enough ;-) Posts: 21,232	Boeing Deamliner battery Apparently lots of pressure (from the politics anyway) . . . http://www.aviationweek.com/Article...._p0-576804.xml HAGOne

1 June 2013, 04:53 AM	#172
Kingair "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA Watch: Not enough ;-) Posts: 21,232	The F-35 story goes one step further . . . . :-( Read this http://www.aviationweek.com/Article...._p0-583761.xml Amazing . . . HAGOne

12 July 2013, 12:53 AM	#173
Kingair "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA Watch: Not enough ;-) Posts: 21,232	USN makes history with first X-47B carrier landing Great http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...anding-388153/ HAGOne

30 April 2013, 12:56 PM	#162
Angrypuppy "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Jason Location: FL390 Posts: 2,376	Cool video of an Airbus flying into Bhutan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsZqN-uEgQU

1 May 2013, 04:49 PM	#165
Kingair "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA Watch: Not enough ;-) Posts: 21,232	Cape Air Still flying a large fleet on piston power ! http://www.jaunted.com/story/2013/4/...r+True+Weight+ HAGOne

2 May 2013, 01:03 AM	#167
Angrypuppy "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Jason Location: FL390 Posts: 2,376	Godspeed. Hard to watch. Two days ago at bagram. Looks like a cargo shift. http://youtu.be/vo51Be2jL8c

24 May 2013, 03:41 AM	#171
Kingair "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA Watch: Not enough ;-) Posts: 21,232	We'll this would be just fine for me . . . the G650 http://www.bjtonline.com/business-je...nside-the-g650 HAGOne

12 July 2013, 04:29 AM	#174
skypilot "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Iowa, USA Posts: 490	"Gerry Beck crashed his Mustang in 2007. " The Gerry Beck accident happened directly in front of the president of our flying club and myself. Had to think long and hard about whether to return to Oshkosh the following year.

12 July 2013, 06:30 AM	#176
Kingair "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA Watch: Not enough ;-) Posts: 21,232	Low Approach of a Typhoon fighter Pretty close http://www.businessinsider.com/watch...ourists-2013-7 HAGOne

26 July 2013, 11:24 AM	#179
jcd "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Jack Location: Wisconsin Watch: me vector Posts: 1,152	Saw this today at work. I'm not positive, but I believe it's the last B-29 still flying. Sorry about the pic quality, but still I thought it was cool.

26 July 2013, 12:08 PM	#180
skypilot "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Iowa, USA Posts: 490	Yep, that's Fifi, the last B29. It will be at Oshkosh air show next week and so will I.

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