Taking a look at the 3235

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by Yipper69

Mine came back about 3 weeks ago. It is now + 2 seconds a week.

That's the way to travel
You must be pleased with that

[VEK]

Amazing! Thanks for Sharing

[Gimoozaabi]

Hi Bas,

Thanks for this very informative post!
Should I be concerned to pick up SD43 126600 with 3235 which is sold with warranty card dated Sept 2017?

From your post I understand that the early 3235s may exhibit this issue while the late production ones have a solution against it. Is this correct?

I have DJ41 which I bought in June 2019 and the movement is quite accurate. It has a more rough feel when being manually wound otherwise no issues with it.

[mountainjogger]

Originally Posted by Boothroyd

Thank you for the break from Basel threads with something tangible about the Rolex mainstay movement. GREAT pics!

I second this thought. Nice to see an expert share expert thoughts about current movements. Thanks for taking the time.

[In-Cog-Neeto]

Originally Posted by mountainjogger

I second this thought. Nice to see an expert share expert thoughts about current movements. Thanks for taking the time.

What else do you expect from a man who drives a killer volvo?!

Nice work Baz. Stuff most of us will never see

[SearChart]

Originally Posted by Gimoozaabi

Hi Bas,

Thanks for this very informative post!
Should I be concerned to pick up SD43 126600 with 3235 which is sold with warranty card dated Sept 2017?

From your post I understand that the early 3235s may exhibit this issue while the late production ones have a solution against it. Is this correct?

I have DJ41 which I bought in June 2019 and the movement is quite accurate. It has a more rough feel when being manually wound otherwise no issues with it.

I wouldn't worry too much, even if you have an early one the chance of getting these problems is still very small.

[SearChart]

Originally Posted by VEK

Amazing! Thanks for Sharing

Originally Posted by mountainjogger

I second this thought. Nice to see an expert share expert thoughts about current movements. Thanks for taking the time.

Originally Posted by In-Cog-Neeto

What else do you expect from a man who drives a killer volvo?!

Nice work Baz. Stuff most of us will never see

[MikeyV]

Thought I'd keep this thread going...unfortunately.

My watch (DJ41 bought in June 2018) ran PERFECTLY (gaining a second every 3 days) when I got it and thereafter for 6 months. Ended up becoming -6 to -8 spd, very consistently, over the next 6 months.

Funny thing is that it would become slower in increments, always centered around any time I would let the watch fully stop, which was not often. I wear the watch every day, and it's fully wound always. I know this because it runs for over 70 hours any time I let it stop.

Each time I'd let it stop, it would come back running about 2 seconds slower each time.

I sent it to Dallas RSC and it came back in 4 weeks running perfectly again. It would gain a second or so in 3-4 days. Really nice, and I could get it back to zero with resting position. Just like when it was new.

Here we are 7 months later ( I got it back in June 2019) and it's doing the same crap.
It was running at about +.5 spd, adjustable by resting position. I kept it spot on for a few months without stoppage. The first time I let it stop, it came back running at -1 spd. Let it stop again a month later, and it came back at -2 or -3 spd.

I let it stop again last weekend, restarted it yesterday at 6 am, and it lost 6 seconds in 24 hours.

Can anyone explain what issue would cause it to run very consistently, when get messed up when it stops and is restarted?

I'm gonna have to send it back again. Not happy. Mostly because I worry about it not being right.

PS, it also had a low amplitude, seen by a watchmaker on a scope. It was like 220 face up fully wound. I'd bet money it has the same problem.

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by MikeyV

Thought I'd keep this thread going...unfortunately.

My watch (DJ41 bought in June 2018) ran PERFECTLY (gaining a second every 3 days) when I got it and thereafter for 6 months. Ended up becoming -6 to -8 spd, very consistently, over the next 6 months.

Funny thing is that it would become slower in increments, always centered around any time I would let the watch fully stop, which was not often. I wear the watch every day, and it's fully wound always. I know this because it runs for over 70 hours any time I let it stop.

Each time I'd let it stop, it would come back running about 2 seconds slower each time.

I sent it to Dallas RSC and it came back in 4 weeks running perfectly again. It would gain a second or so in 3-4 days. Really nice, and I could get it back to zero with resting position. Just like when it was new.

Here we are 7 months later ( I got it back in June 2019) and it's doing the same crap.
It was running at about +.5 spd, adjustable by resting position. I kept it spot on for a few months without stoppage. The first time I let it stop, it came back running at -1 spd. Let it stop again a month later, and it came back at -2 or -3 spd.

I let it stop again last weekend, restarted it yesterday at 6 am, and it lost 6 seconds in 24 hours.

Can anyone explain what issue would cause it to run very consistently, when get messed up when it stops and is restarted?

I'm gonna have to send it back again. Not happy. Mostly because I worry about it not being right.

PS, it also had a low amplitude, seen by a watchmaker on a scope. It was like 220 face up fully wound. I'd bet money it has the same problem.

Precisely
You're onto it, and it's a known issue with these new 32xx movements. However, I think this is the first feedback we have seen here of it occurring in such quick succession.
Take it back to RSC

[MikeyV]

What in the world would cause it to jump to running slower when it's allowed to stop?

So weird.

And frustrating. I'm sure they knew what the actual problem was when they fixed it the first time right? I'm sure they've addressed this problem so it doesn't happen on new production or on a watch coming in for service....right?

:(

[datejustrms]

Bas, thanks for taking the time to post the pictures and share the information on the 3235. My DJ41 is my most accurate watch and and the power reserve of 70 hours is almost spot on.

[MikeyV]

Originally Posted by datejustrms

Bas, thanks for taking the time to post the pictures and share the information on the 3235. My DJ41 is my most accurate watch and and the power reserve of 70 hours is almost spot on.

Totally, this too.

You can't really find exploded photos like that, especially of the new 3235. I really enjoy your photos and posts, Bas. The play - by - play makes them even better. Thanks!

Mine is insanely spot on usually. After I got it back, I let it run over two months, staying within 1 second of the NIST time. It ran a touch fast in the day, and I rested it crown up to lose a tad at night. It's amazing really. When it jumps to being slow, It's really noticeable, and I know something's up like right away.

You know what Padi says...there's so many ticks in a second, etc... It makes it even more amazing how well they work. And you know what else he says...maybe you should get a quartz watch, etc. I know these can run spot on. There's no reason to expect less from a modern Rolex.

Mine's just gotta get sorted, I know Rolex will take care of it.

[nevergiveup]

For the money Rolex short changes us on a movement that looks nor runs any better than a top grade eta movement other than a longer power reserve which means nothing if worn daily. Patek might cost more but at least you can see why!!

[Tridor]

Great photos. This begs the question ... why or how did Rolex allow the first generation of these movements to go unlubricated in one or more spots? Since this does not appear to be an isolated incident, is it a design defect or is it negligence on the part of Rolex? Thoughts?

[Rashid.bk]

I think I missed this thread and not sure how. Beautiful photos. One things for sure, the 3235 has some beautiful finishing, it actually looks beautiful. Thanks for posting.

[Rashid.bk]

Originally Posted by Tridor

Great photos. This begs the question ... why or how did Rolex allow the first generation of these movements to go unlubricated in one or more spots? Since this does not appear to be an isolated incident, is it a design defect or is it negligence on the part of Rolex? Thoughts?

My second gen D-Blue bought in June 2018 with a 3235 must have these issues. It’s loosing about seven seconds a day. Unfortunately, I’m unable to drop it in for service for a few more months. It’s a real debbie downer on an otherwise amazing watch.

[MikeyV]

Did it slowly drift that slow? Was it accurate when you got it? How old is it?

[hgbayoud]

Mine is from 2018 ... grey market with stickers ... in nov 2019. I am doing a test using watch tracker and my SD43 is running slow as in 5.3 days -4.3spd. Don’t know if I should be concerned or not but will keep taking reads and see how it goes ...

On the other hand my gmt pepsi from 2018 and bought in July 2019 is running 4.8 days -0.9 spd ...

[Rori]

Mine is late 2019 model. Does the inaccuracy issue manifest itself immediately or randomly. How long should I be monitoring it before I can say movement is OK.

[eonflux]

Originally Posted by SearChart

Servicing this 3235 from a DateJust 41 under warranty, seconds wheel pivot is dry on the dial side... Causing extra friction and wear which lowers amplitude and causes timekeeping issues.

Thanks for the pics!

And all the responses to questions.
Very informative.

[brnalkn]

I have a 3235 DJ 41 brandnew 2020,its more clinking while manuel winding to my DSSD 3135 but its power reserve of 70hours is much much more useful.

[RomanH]

Great pictures. Thanks

[scooba]

Thank you for sharing

[samuel019]

No big deal here but something I've noticed about the 3235 in my new 41 Sub is it takes almost nothing to get it back running after the power reserve is done.

Yesterday I went to show someone how the date function worked while it had been unworn for like 3 weeks, so not running at all and all I did was loosen the crown just enough to get it popped out where I could change the date and it started running.

So we are talking about like maybe maybe 3-4 turns max in the "wrong" direction and it started running. None in my entire signature line do that except the 126610

[samuel019]

Something I would love to hear about from other owners. Will yours do that?

[TswaneNguni]

Talk about a dust free environment ,I guess Bas do not work with the windows open ..

[Jpccarguy]

Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

Talk about a dust free environment ,I guess Bas do not work with the windows open ..

[sheldonsmith]

There is another thread on 3235’s here as well: https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=699001

[tudk]

Very educational.

Thanks for sharing

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by tudk

Very educational.

Thanks for sharing

Bas’s signature says “expert” for a reason, I trust his word more then anyone else.