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Old 5 January 2024, 09:31 AM   #151
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Well, after reading this thread, I am amazed that you would wire money to a different person’s account, other than the Seller’s. That, in and of itself, is a huge red flag. I’m going to assume that a person whose screen name is JeromeL is actually named Jerome, and you wired money to some woman’s account. Sorry, OP, but you really exercised poor judgement here. I do hope you can at least seek legal action against the perpetrators.

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Old 5 January 2024, 09:39 AM   #152
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Hello. A colleague from the forum just contacted me. Same user JeromeL, different bank. In This case in Texas. We have already, with the other one mentioned above three different accounts for the same seller. This is crazy


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Old 5 January 2024, 09:43 AM   #153
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Old 5 January 2024, 09:43 AM   #154
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Paid 9.5k for an IWC to this scammer . Money to
Bank name: Capital one, N.A.
Account number: 36235701153
Routing number: 031176110
Account Name: Carol Vickers
Bank address: 6161 Retail Rd, Dallas, TX 75231, USA.
Address: 816 E 49th St, Austin, TX 78751, USA.
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Old 5 January 2024, 09:45 AM   #155
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He told me he was lindell van vickers. Acoount was his wife. I have pictures of his face with his passaport and watch . Also I have a video of him telling my name next to the watch and setting the date and time .
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Old 5 January 2024, 09:50 AM   #156
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The user @outkast has no privileges yet to write in the thread and ask me to paste this:

“Also got scammed by JeromeL . He used a differnt name and a differnt account.
Bank name: Capital one, N.A.
Account number: 36235701153
Routing number: 031176110
Account Name: Carol Vickers
Bank address: 6161 Retail Rd, Dallas, TX 75231, USA.
Address: 816 E 49th St, Austin, TX 78751, USA.

He said it was his wife account . He also gave me video of the watch and passport and his face(I thought). He actually said my name on video , and set the time and date and everything. Please help.to track down Lindell von Vickers or Caroll Vickers. As they have the money”

In my case (Thanks TRF) I could contact the lady that owns the bank account where I wired the funds to, and inform the Spanish police about that.

How could we find more data from This guy “Carol Vickers” with the address above? I do not know how you managed to know where was working the lady of my case (Dawn)


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Old 5 January 2024, 10:16 AM   #157
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I browse the forum very often, rarely post anything but I find myself checking this thread multiple times a day. Situation gets more wild by the day.
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Old 5 January 2024, 10:16 AM   #158
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Please help about locating and contacting the Vickers

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Old 5 January 2024, 10:17 AM   #159
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Carol Vickers and Lindell Jan Vickers

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Old 5 January 2024, 10:17 AM   #160
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Just let me.get to 10 posts and I ll upload the passaport. And pics

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Old 5 January 2024, 10:18 AM   #161
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Passaport and guy pics

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Old 5 January 2024, 10:21 AM   #162
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Look he even sent a video saying my name(Florin) and the time then and date.https://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/65974b9a...qfrPeZCV-7.mp4

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Old 5 January 2024, 10:28 AM   #163
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Old 5 January 2024, 10:34 AM   #164
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Old 5 January 2024, 10:35 AM   #165
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Old 5 January 2024, 10:41 AM   #166
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Old 5 January 2024, 10:48 AM   #167
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whats the point in asking for a passport if you get a picture where you can't even see anything in it and it's not american? meanwhile the bank account is in america

not to mention how easily they can be faked to scam people online who don't know what they're looking at
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Old 5 January 2024, 10:52 AM   #168
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Look he even sent a video saying my name(Florin) and the time then and date.https://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/65974b9a...qfrPeZCV-7.mp4

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what were you looking to achieve with this? all it does is prove he's an actual person and not much else
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Old 5 January 2024, 10:53 AM   #169
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He is not American, This is why he has some mules in the US I guess


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Old 5 January 2024, 11:02 AM   #170
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Wow. This is super interesting and hopefully doesn’t get locked. A lot of learnings will come out from this. Curious how this plays out


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Old 5 January 2024, 11:03 AM   #171
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This just gets weirder and weirder. That passport did not say Jerome on it. The gentleman looks Eastern European, and that is not an American passport, yet you sent money to an American bank. I’m sorry, but none of this makes any sense. If someone showed me those photos to prove he was legit, I’d run away screaming….

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Old 5 January 2024, 11:05 AM   #172
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He is not American, This is why he has some mules in the US I guess


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yeah which would be red flag #1, and a giant red flag at that
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Old 5 January 2024, 11:09 AM   #173
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This is the nuttiest thread.
Depressing because I have sold many watches on here and also bought plenty with no issues at all. I hope this can continue without scamming. Hopefully whatever is going on could have been avoided with moderate due diligence.
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Old 5 January 2024, 11:36 AM   #174
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Fact is that all this happened and lesson learnt. Now can any of you guys from USA help me track down the Vickers ? Maybe there s a little chance for me to get my money back. Thank you in advance .

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Old 5 January 2024, 11:46 AM   #175
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what were you looking to achieve with this? all it does is prove he's an actual person and not much else
I think this was to show that he had in his possessions the actual watch no?

I think one of the common suggestions when buying second hand is to "Facetime" the buyer to make sure he/she actually owns the watch.

Not that there aren't a billion other "run like hell" clues in the whole thing.

I'm just curious how big this whole thing is, if it is even actually a thing.
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Old 5 January 2024, 11:50 AM   #176
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As someone who sells watches on here from time to time I am gutted by these events. I provide so much information to those looking to buy from me to ensure they feel at ease. I also try to do my due diligence on the buyer. You just never know!

We need to stay vigilant and walk away if there is even a tiny doubt. Read the post, interactions with other members, feedback, make sure wire information is correct. We live in a dangerous world. Be cautious, always.
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Old 5 January 2024, 11:53 AM   #177
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not a US passport...not a valid zip code in Fort Wayne...bank is over 200 miles from home address

sometimes its hard to see a red flag in a sea of red flags
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Old 5 January 2024, 11:58 AM   #178
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You seem to ignore the best advice so far which I said before.
You don't need to be a US Citizen or in the US to utilize both of these resources and are the best option you have....

This is who you need to reach out to

https://www.ic3.gov

FBI Internet Crimes Division

Id also reach out to the local PD in the city the bank account you wired the money is located and the cities District Atty office.

No offense but it just sounds like you want to complain here and not actually do anything about it. Posting here is not going to solve your problem.

Why anyone would send to a bank account that is not in the sellers name, not get photo ID matching the name and address matching ID and bank info for starters is beyond me....
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Old 5 January 2024, 12:02 PM   #179
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Old 5 January 2024, 01:55 PM   #180
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This is who you need to reach out to

https://www.ic3.gov

FBI Internet Crimes Division

Id also reach out to the local PD there and the cities District Atty office.

Hilarious! The FBI is going to care about an international fraud case worth $14k? Bigger to


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