TT - Why are they unwanted on the secondary market?

[Newportkrieger]

Personally, I like the TT look and own a GMT 1675/3 TT, a 1601 TT and a 16713 TT.

It is my opinion that the TT do not hold value as well as the SS over time because of the dramatic increase in bracelet stretch vs. SS over the same period of time/use.

The replacement cost of a Rolex TT bracelet from an AD is prohibitive. You will notice that most TT watches have well stretched Jubilee bracelets, oysters much less so but still way more than the SS version. Therefore, the TT watches need to be priced lower in the used market to take into account the cost of bracelet replacement or stated another way, the watches need to be discounted more to offset the decreased utility value of their stretched bracelets and/or offset the future depreciation of the faster stretching TT bracelet.

I just bought my TT 1675/3 and love it. I also bought a high quality aftermarket jubilee bracelet to wear it on and am sending the original out for refurbishment. I will not wear the original bracelet ever but it will be nice and tight and stay with the watch from a collectors standpoint.

[never2late]

Originally Posted by AJMarcus

TT is gaining popularity but the fact remains SS is usually the entry level Rolex for most people hence the popularity. Just ask any AD.

I totally disagree that TT is gaudy or ostentatious. SS can be just as ostentatious if its worn by someone with an "in your face" personality! The perfect combination IMO is to have both a SS and TT for those special occasions when a little gold shimmering under the sleave is perfect. But we all know it boils down to just getting whatever appeals to you. I just don't think it's fair or accurate to denigrate those who enjoy TT.

If anyone thinks TT is not gaining popularity in the US then they need to take a trip to Vegas!

Cheers!

I couldn't agree more.

[HORNBLOWER]

I like both, it depends on my mood and what I'm wearing.

[SALTY]

I must respectfully disagree with the comment that a TT is an advertisement to the fact that one cannot afford a full gold watch. I am in a suit and tie at work. Up until recently when i was fortunate to obtain a SS Daytona (white dial) my TT GMTIIC got just about all of the wrist time. The YG DD (bark/black dial) sat in the safe for special occasions. I'm wearing the daytona regularly but the TT GMTIIC is my favorate all-arounder. And, as someone previously posted, i can wear my TT with gold jewelry or silver.

I like SS but there is certanly nothing wrong with TT, notwithstanding the stretch of the bracelets and the high replacement cost.

Then again, I have a hairy chest and do get fairly tan in the summer.

[The Joker]

When did this topic pop up again. Mods is it possible to delete my post on the first page. You make one comment and it is set in stone for all of time.

[Oyster1982]

Originally Posted by Nimrod

I must respectfully disagree with the comment that a TT is an advertisement to the fact that one cannot afford a full gold watch. I am in a suit and tie at work. Up until recently when i was fortunate to obtain a SS Daytona (white dial) my TT GMTIIC got just about all of the wrist time. The YG DD (bark/black dial) sat in the safe for special occasions. I'm wearing the daytona regularly but the TT GMTIIC is my favorate all-arounder. And, as someone previously posted, i can wear my TT with gold jewelry or silver.

I like SS but there is certanly nothing wrong with TT, notwithstanding the stretch of the bracelets and the high replacement cost.

Then again, I have a hairy chest and do get fairly tan in the summer.

I cant agree with you more, the bracelets stretch can be avoided if you clean the band once a week and an ultrasonic cleaning one a month. I go to my dads dental lab and remove the band throw it in there for a couple of minutes comes out like new, I dont have any dirt inside the hollow jubillee links.

[zeppe19avr]

This discussion is going nowhere.... I don`t care about what is in trend or fashion or in or out of style ! I wear whatever I like and appeals to me, be it SS, TT or gold.
Remember the old saying: Whatever is old is new again ! I bet you gold will make a comeback after the trend of wearing SS wears down.. When ? Nobody knows.....

[Rolex-Girl]

TT is classic!

[mlotus95]

i like them both.

[never2late]

Originally Posted by The Joker

When did this topic pop up again. Mods is it possible to delete my post on the first page. You make one comment and it is set in stone for all of time.

Just goes to show, you have to watch what you say because people will remember and judge you accordingly. Its one thing to express an opinion about your personal feelings and quite another to express an opinion that insults the personal feelings others might hold. Personally, I'm not a fan of an all gold watch . . . but I love the contrast between the stainless and gold on a TT watch. It has nothing to do with what I can or can't afford.

[Lgear080]

I practically stole my 116523 daytona and just got an amazing arabic panda face
to match.

best deal on the planet.

[Jinder]

I always liked the TT on the sub/GMT. IMO

[Jinder]

Originally Posted by The Joker

TT is a dated 80's look, and you are just advertising the fact that you can't afford the full gold

Disagree completely. IMO I always found the SS/TT/all gold to be so different from each other. The contrast of the TT v all gold is so different...making them "different". IMO anyways

[EchoBlueUK]

TT rules...but its a fashion thing.

[masterserg]

Originally Posted by The Joker
TT is a dated 80's look, and you are just advertising the fact that you can't afford the full gold

All due respect, who cares man ... As my favorite AD lady told me once ... "if you like it, buy it ... if you don't, don't".

Personally, I don't think you can beat a Black TT Sub C.

[Timber Loftis]

First, as a child of the 80's, I have avoided yellow gold of any sort for over a decade. It makes me feel like I'm either out of place or playing a supporting role in an Adam Sandler throwback movie.

Moreover, a TT datejust is, from my experience, what every non-WIS person (or more likely, their wife) ends up with when they finally have enough money to waddle into an AD and say "Hey, it's about time I bought myself/my husband a Rolex."

Without fail, if I talk to someone I meet professionally who has a DJ, most especially a TT DJ, they have no clue about anything at all related to their watch, other than it was the expensive Rolex they finally treated themselves to.

On the other hand, if I see a guy with a Coke GMT or an Expy II, you can usually expect some interesting conversation. These guys tend to have learned more and shopped more for their watch, and tend to be quite frankly more discerning owners. They got the watch that wasn't the obvious choice pushed on them by an AD or bought for them by their wives.

My 2c.

And all that being said, no one in their right mind can argue that a Bluesy Sub (the original, not the smurfmariners) isn't gorgeous.

[Jinder]

Originally Posted by bscepter

as for YG - i love the feel and heft. but i think you need to be 70 years old and very tan to pull off a YG rolex.

70? Come on. I believe is not you age, but how you wear that watch..
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Cv-0TBEhWV...600-h/Mark.jpgttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Cv-0TBEhWVE/SRG8LSFb2HI/AAAAAAAAFe4/lZciBmvR59E/s1600-h/Mark.jpg

[__ma]

They look good on Florida golf courses ;)

[Rolex Junky]

Originally Posted by Timber Loftis

First, as a child of the 80's, I have avoided yellow gold of any sort for over a decade. It makes me feel like I'm either out of place or playing a supporting role in an Adam Sandler throwback movie.

Moreover, a TT datejust is, from my experience, what every non-WIS person (or more likely, their wife) ends up with when they finally have enough money to waddle into an AD and say "Hey, it's about time I bought myself/my husband a Rolex."

Without fail, if I talk to someone I meet professionally who has a DJ, most especially a TT DJ, they have no clue about anything at all related to their watch, other than it was the expensive Rolex they finally treated themselves to.

On the other hand, if I see a guy with a Coke GMT or an Expy II, you can usually expect some interesting conversation. These guys tend to have learned more and shopped more for their watch, and tend to be quite frankly more discerning owners. They got the watch that wasn't the obvious choice pushed on them by an AD or bought for them by their wives.

My 2c.

And all that being said, no one in their right mind can argue that a Bluesy Sub (the original, not the smurfmariners) isn't gorgeous.

Or it might just be that tastes and preferences differ. Personally I find your coments to be insulting. Please try to be more considerate of others next time and avoid degrading into stereotypes.

[masterserg]

Originally Posted by Timber Loftis

Moreover, a TT datejust is, from my experience, what every non-WIS person (or more likely, their wife) ends up with when they finally have enough money to waddle into an AD and say "Hey, it's about time I bought myself/my husband a Rolex."

Without fail, if I talk to someone I meet professionally who has a DJ, most especially a TT DJ, they have no clue about anything at all related to their watch, other than it was the expensive Rolex they finally treated themselves to.

That's a bit of a generalization don't you think? I've seen some beautiful TTs posted on countless threads here and I bet their owners know a thing or two about them.

On the other hand, I don't see anything wrong with somebody wanting to treat themselves to something they like even if they don't know the last detail about it, free world and all.

[Oyster1982]

Originally Posted by Timber Loftis

First, as a child of the 80's, I have avoided yellow gold of any sort for over a decade. It makes me feel like I'm either out of place or playing a supporting role in an Adam Sandler throwback movie.

Moreover, a TT datejust is, from my experience, what every non-WIS person (or more likely, their wife) ends up with when they finally have enough money to waddle into an AD and say "Hey, it's about time I bought myself/my husband a Rolex."

Without fail, if I talk to someone I meet professionally who has a DJ, most especially a TT DJ, they have no clue about anything at all related to their watch, other than it was the expensive Rolex they finally treated themselves to.

On the other hand, if I see a guy with a Coke GMT or an Expy II, you can usually expect some interesting conversation. These guys tend to have learned more and shopped more for their watch, and tend to be quite frankly more discerning owners. They got the watch that wasn't the obvious choice pushed on them by an AD or bought for them by their wives.

My 2c.

And all that being said, no one in their right mind can argue that a Bluesy Sub (the original, not the smurfmariners) isn't gorgeous.

I wear a TT DJ, and I know quite a bit about Rolex history and my watch. I was never a fan of the Rolex sportwatches never had any use for them. A lot of people who buy Rolex's dont know much about them. Our group of WIS make up a very small % of the Rolex buying public. When I bought my Rolex I shopped around, and knew I wanted a 16233 DJ. I got one of the early 16233's made, a L-series early 1990 DJ 16233 with the 3135 movement and sapphire crystal.

[jizeal]

TT is for grandfathers

[Time2time]

Originally Posted by The Joker

TT is a dated 80's look, and you are just advertising the fact that you can't afford the full gold version.

And while I'm at it I think you can only pull off a full gold watch with gold bracelet if you are Tony Soprano or Elle Macpherson.

A gold watch with leather strap is hot though, not too over the top.

Stick with SS, it rules!

Unwanted? Really?
80's look? Really?

News to me. I know it's a personal opinion
but I think the TT looks better than the all gold!! IMHO of course.

[Jinder]

Originally Posted by jizeal

TT is for grandfathers

Really? That's utter rubbish my friend

Look how nice this watch is
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=190838

[oboshoe]

Personally I don't care for TT watches.

1) I just don't prefer the aesthetics. I prefer SS, yellow gold or white gold.

2) TT bracelets exhibit more "stretch", as the harder SS grinds against the softer 18k. This result is that TT stretch more than all gold or SS.

[sherwin]

Originally Posted by jizeal

TT is for grandfathers

really? for me the 16233 was love at first sight!!

damn when i got my 16233 at the age of 18 (with my first paycheque)

[Jinder]

Personally, I feel the TT models are the best of the lot. Just looks cool in my eyes....
I never visioned TT as an old man watch, I find them classy.
The Date Just II and Sub/GMT TT models are just amazing.
IMO!

[gwozhog]

Ok gold is now worth as much as platinum and that is because gold is back. I see the new bluesey selling for about 8600-9k on the second hand market now. That is up more than 10 percent from 3 months ago. Most TT watches are most likely purchased with a much more steeper discount from AD's right now so you can not go wrong.

[brkanand]

IMO SS reflects simplicity with total satisfaction. TT reflects a desire to move forward, a confused mind and an awareness of not having reached there. YG/WG confirms you are rich enough to buy an expensive watch, with an erroneous feeling of being successful but wanting more attention anyways!

[mocheen]

I like TT watches as well, but my preference is for SS. I really like the white gold sub with the blue face.