Why is VC in the holy trinity?

[Joey5622]

Originally Posted by Pongster

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I could stare at this watch for days!!!

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[Pongster]

Originally Posted by Vivalas

Well I’ve had my VC for over a month now and have to say it’s the best watch I’ve ever owned - I’ve owned most Rolex models and the 5711. It’s just superb.

Which VC is this?


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[Vivalas]

Originally Posted by Pongster

Which VC is this?


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4500 - simple 3 hander. Prefer it to my white Daytona, blro, hulk, sky.

[Ekwity]

They make only 20,000 pieces a year. Sure they’re now owned by a major conglomerate now ,even though quality hasn’t changed.
Essentially they paid their dues and some of their older complications are amazing. And they have a insanely long history similar to that of Patek. I have a fiftysix calendar and absolute adore it

[Pongster]

Originally Posted by Vivalas

4500 - simple 3 hander. Prefer it to my white Daytona, blro, hulk, sky.

Nice. I think the overseas is one of the better steel sports luxury watches in the market.

Just doesnt get the hype of the royal oak and nautilus. Maybe because not designed by genta.

But it can definitely hold its own.

The only VC in my stash is also a 4500V, a chocolate dial.


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[Nav01L]

Originally Posted by Ekwity

They make only 20,000 pieces a year. Sure they’re now owned by a major conglomerate now ,even though quality hasn’t changed.
Essentially they paid their dues and some of their older complications are amazing. And they have a insanely long history similar to that of Patek. I have a fiftysix calendar and absolute adore it

Similar to Patek? They were celebrating their 90th birthday by the time Patek got into its own... Patek is not that old. Many watch brands were founded in the mid 1800s. Actually Lange was founded the very same year as Patek, in 1845, JLC 12 years earlier and IWC about 20 years later. Really nothing too special about that, especially when you compare that with Vacheron‘s uninterrupted production since 1755.

[Ekwity]

Originally Posted by Nav01L

Similar to Patek? They were celebrating their 90th birthday by the time Patek got into its own... Patek is not that old. Many watch brands were founded in the mid 1800s. Actually Lange was founded the very same year as Patek, in 1845, JLC 12 years earlier and IWC about 20 years later. Really nothing too special about that, especially when you compare that with Vacheron‘s uninterrupted production since 1755.

I was just addressing the topic question as to why they’re in the trinity
You’re 100% right though
IMO it’s sad people don’t go as crazy for VC then AP etc... I think they have amazing stuff.
JLC is starting to get bigger, raising prices, more recognition. I have a black ultra thin and it’s in my top 3 favorites.
But digressing back I think Gerald genta making the royal oak or nautilus makes people go nuts over Patek/AP (hype) just my 2c

[munichblue]

Originally Posted by Nav01L

Similar to Patek? They were celebrating their 90th birthday by the time Patek got into its own... Patek is not that old. Many watch brands were founded in the mid 1800s. Actually Lange was founded the very same year as Patek, in 1845, JLC 12 years earlier and IWC about 20 years later. Really nothing too special about that, especially when you compare that with Vacheron‘s uninterrupted production since 1755.

Thank you very much!

[armidoro1]

Originally Posted by Cooper33

I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of owners of luxury watches couldn't care less about retail value, I know that I don't. If it appreciates, great, but who gives a shit. If you think you'll really need the money in the future and selling a few pieces will make a difference in your life, perhaps buying them in the first place wasn't a good move. They're meant to be bought with disposable income.



A brand new Ferrari also takes a hit the day it leaves the dealership, but I don't imagine owners really care about that.



But that's the current state of affairs...guess the "hot demand" created a whole new segment of "value retention enthusiasts"...

Well said! I buy watches to wear and enjoy them, I know people who keep their watches in safes and never wear them! It's crazy, it's like buying a pagani zonda and putting a car cover over it and never using it

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[raclaims]

I guess I'm different, I like to make money on my watches as well as wear them all the time.

I care if my cars lose money too.

I buy quality watches and cars...that make money...why the hell would someone purposely lose money? But to each his own

[Nav01L]

Originally Posted by raclaims

I guess I'm different, I like to make money on my watches as well as wear them all the time.

I care if my cars lose money too.

I buy quality watches and cars...that make money...why the hell would someone purposely lose money? But to each his own

Does that apply to the women in your life too? Jk ;) But my point is sometimes you like something or someone without regard to its/their ability to make money. After all, money is means to an end, not the opposite. And let’s face it, when you found the watch you wanna put all those memories into, its not like you’re gonna resell it anyway.

The only pride you can take in a watch you’re babysitting for its future purchaser is having recognized other people’s demand... big deal, I prefer to take pride in my personal sense of taste, and frankly my ability to truly afford a watch, meaning my ability to write it off entirely. But then again, I’m an owner, not a trader, I buy with my eventual grandkids in mind, not a guy who’ll give me double retail.

[armidoro1]

Originally Posted by raclaims

I guess I'm different, I like to make money on my watches as well as wear them all the time.

I care if my cars lose money too.

I buy quality watches and cars...that make money...why the hell would someone purposely lose money? But to each his own

I totally get where you coming from, but I wanted a blue VC overseas because I like it not because it makes me money. With all things you lose money on one but you make money on another.
Swings and roundabouts as they say


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[raclaims]

I get it guys...I'm a slave to my own issues of never wasting money (coming from a family that was poor...it's part of me)...that said, I totally understand buying a piece you are passionate about...

[Nav01L]

Originally Posted by armidoro1

I totally get where you coming from, but I wanted a blue VC overseas because I like it not because it makes me money. With all things you lose money on one but you make money on another.
Swings and roundabouts as they say


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Also, depending on how you bought it, you’re probably not too far in the red with that particular piece. Great choice btw, have mine on my wrist as I type this.

[armidoro1]

Originally Posted by Nav01L

Also, depending on how you bought it, you’re probably not too far in the red with that particular piece. Great choice btw, have mine on my wrist as I type this.

Yip I'm not in the red because I got it new for a great deal along with a new Pepsi (which I sold, didn't like it on the wrist) so did pretty well I think , I also see they have increased the price recently.

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[Nav01L]

Originally Posted by armidoro1

Yip I'm not in the red because I got it new for a great deal along with a new Pepsi (which I sold, didn't like it on the wrist) so did pretty well I think , I also see they have increased the price recently.

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Haha, could you believe I also bought mine within about a week of getting a new Pepsi last summer, which I then also sold (exchanged for a Lange) for the lack of liking it on the wrist... we really have the same taste it seems.

[armidoro1]

Originally Posted by Nav01L

Haha, could you believe I also bought mine within about a week of getting a new Pepsi last summer, which I then also sold (exchanged for a Lange) for the lack of liking it on the wrist... we really have the same taste it seems.

Haha what are the odds
Lange is next on my list although the VC black dial dual time is calling my name!
Congrats on the Lange by the way!

P.s. Which Lange did you get?

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[Nav01L]

Originally Posted by armidoro1

Haha what are the odds
Lange is next on my list although the VC black dial dual time is calling my name!
Congrats on the Lange by the way!

P.s. Which Lange did you get?

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Are you sure we’re not the same person, I am awfully tempted by the black dial dual time as well. The Lange is the grand L1 in WG, black dial. Such a wonderful watch. You have to see it in person to fully appreciate it though. It’s very discreet, but that’s a big part of its charm.

[armidoro1]

Originally Posted by Nav01L

Are you sure we’re not the same person, I am awfully tempted by the black dial dual time as well. The Lange is the grand L1 in WG, black dial. Such a wonderful watch. You have to see it in person to fully appreciate it though. It’s very discreet, but that’s a big part of its charm.

Haha I was actually in the VC and lange boutiques this morning checking out some pieces

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